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My opinion on Bone conduction earphones

(Sorry if it's a miss, this community looked the most fitting)

After mentioning them somewhere in comments, I actually bought Shokz after years of sitting curious. There are a few brands that do them, so it doesn't matter what's the brand is. I bought what I've heard of and the cheapest model I could find at that.

So, what's the trick? As I'm cycling, walking and running a lot, I needed a headphone solution to be aware of my surroundings. They don't cover ears and don't actually emmit sound - they vibrate and make your bones serve as a membrane.

The obvious minus is that in a bus or other loud setting you can't hear shit. That's by design. And, logically but somehow absurdly, by shutting your ear with a finger, you can make yourself hear it okay. I did a full circle here, returning to the old headphones isolation problem, heh.

But what impressed me more, they do feel like some kind of a cyberpunk prosthetic. You can wear them all day and even the cheapest one that promises 6hr of activity lasts days on the idle. But as you call someone or watch a vid – here they are, with a little to no latency. Honestly, I feel like if there'd be implants, that's one of the basic ones we can try first. It's hands-free device with a bonus of being more stealthy and not isolating you from the world.

As a cheapskate audiophile who stayed with cords for a long time, I can say that the sound is okay. Keeping in mind that producers can't control the skull of a wearer, they can't nail the ideal sound, but I'm impressed with how nice IDM and metal plays on them - something akin to budget Senh, AKG and Audiotechnica. And unlike cheap Sony, they don't put up low freqs, that's a plus. BUT when I shared it with others, people in body reported less effectiveness due to thickness of skin and under-dermal stuff, so it's better to test it if you aren't skinny as a skeleton.

After being so open about plus sides, I'm to talk minuses. Since the software is proprietary, it doesn't have many controls and is very weird sometimes. As I bought a model that was for internal chinese market originally, it talked to me in Chinese, and it can only be switched to another language before any pairing, so only after unpairing I could've chosen English – and the same combination of button presses when paired was reserved to calling the last called number, so I fucked up a lazy weekend morning for a friend of mine calling them 4-5 times, damn it. Ah, and it supports dual pairing with a PC and a smartphone, but as I tested it this function worked weird and I sometimes manually disconnected them. Walking&working distance from a source device is around the second or third room, that fits most office and home listening cases. I could've probably wished for it to have an option to pick lesser distance since I don't usually have even a meter between my smartphones and them.

Ah, and going back to the bus problem - the obvious downside that you want to turn them to 100% volume that you don't feel, but your ears do. After the first day when I needed to move a lot in loud contexts and thus put them on max, I had a headache, because although I didn't register the volume, my head had a first row concert experience. So if you use these, keep that in mind too.

Have you tried them, is there a topic I haven't covered? As you can tell, I'm happy with them, so I would be biased. It's just with VR stuff, even from Apple, I feel like we underlook existing tech that already serves us as expander of our life experiences and powers.

JoBo ,

How is the microphone for phone calls?

andrew_bidlaw OP ,
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I asked my friends a couple of times when we had calls and some Discord conversations. No problems reported even when I was on a windy street at that time. I'm yet to see the spectrogram of their input, but I listened to my voice messages and they were fine. Obviously, not an all-purpose mic that can record music, but with a range of freqs that covers our speech it works no worse than industry standard, with airpods, dots and others. I even used it, stealthly, to record some IRL talks, just in case, and the result was clear. Their not-very-noticeable nature helps it.

marcos ,

I guess it varies widely. The one in mine is a complete piece of shit, so I have it set to use only as headphones.

andrew_bidlaw OP ,
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Yeah, probably makes sense to have s standard check for each model. I had a nice pair, but something else can be a completely different story.

TooLazyDidntName ,

People say they dont notice a difference between my shokz and my phone.

donio , (edited )

I've done many hours of phonecalls on mine. Mic quality is acceptable, slightly mushy. Wind is an issue for example when riding a bike at higher speeds. Wearing a hoodie over them can block the mic too.

EvilBit ,

My short take is the audio quality is mediocre for music or anything artistic, but using the Shokz OpenComm for work, I’ll never go back. Best work headset I’ve ever used. I can wear it all day and sometimes almost forget to take it off at the end of the day.

ABCDE ,

That... Looks good. How is the microphone quality? How long does it last?

andrew_bidlaw OP ,
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I answred before, but with my love for long form podcasts and rare calls, I charge it once for two days of work.

ABCDE ,

Thanks. I'm tempted as in and over ear headsets would be less preferable than something which rests outside. I still have another year and a half of teaching online so this would be a decent quality of life upgrade.

andrew_bidlaw OP ,
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A little personal, but what moved me to actually buy them is that my mic on a webcam died that troubled my own online teaching. So far, it worked fine, even on long days if I didn't forget to charge it. Check that thread and the product page before the purchase and you'd be golden. Keep on going, fellow tutor, although we are treated like shit worldwide, we are the gears that make our society spin (:

EvilBit ,

I honestly couldn’t say firsthand how the mic sounds, but I loaned it to a colleague and she said people noted how well they could hear her. She said she was going to get one herself even though she hadn’t quite figured out how to get it to work with her hair.

Battery life is good I think. I can’t remember exactly, and mileage varies, but while I wouldn’t bet my life on it lasting through eight hours straight of constant calls, it’s probably an all-day battery for the vast majority of people’s use cases.

My only real complaints are that the buttons are kind of confusing and poorly programmed (volume up/power is the forward of the two buttons on the bottom of the right arm behind your ear), and the charging cable is a weird proprietary magnetic thing.

ABCDE ,

Can you control the volume on the computer? I have a Mac in case that's an issue.

EvilBit ,

Yeah, both computer and on-headset controls work for adjusting volume. But there’s a giant orange button on the side that could be a nice power button, but instead they use volume up. And volume up/down are positioned forward/back. It’s just a little perplexing.

sepi ,

Throwing in another vote for the OpenComm. Excellent work headset with multipoint.

wesker ,
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Nice writeup.

I need to replace my aged pair.

A solution to one of the bus problems, is to carry a pair of those mushy ear plugs. If you put them in, you regain isolation, without having to crank the volume and hurt your ears.

One of my gripes is the behind-the-head design. You simply can't wear them comfortably if you're reclining or laying down.

andrew_bidlaw OP ,
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Yep, you are right, also in autumn and winter both the high collar of a jacket and the hat touch it. In a place with a various weather it's harder to forget they are on.

With Shokz especially, it could've been undone if the cord was soft, like in many connected headphones. But for some reason they did it hard bending, although heaphones sit without problems by themselves, even when doing sports. For something like Miami or Krasnodar it's no problem, but for my region of Russia with crazy overnight tilts of weather and states with the same instability, it can be a problem.

TheTetrapod ,

The band needs to be a flexible metal so that enough pressure is applied to the ear pads. If they were floppy, you wouldn't hear them very well.

Natanael ,

Some have ear attachments (like mono headsets have, but on both ends)

MentalEdge ,
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I just tilt them up, wear them like normal headphones.

Bone conduction doesn't care what position or where exactly the transducer is. The sound won't be exactly as intended but it works.

mipadaitu ,

Tilt them up so the band is on the crown of your head instead across the top of your neck. That's what I do when I'm laying down or wearing a stocking cap.

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