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KeenFlame

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KeenFlame ,

The using eyes to see colors format?

KeenFlame ,

Blind memes are not as punchy

KeenFlame ,

We don't choose. It's decided to be the term for this. Computer bugs aren't bugs. Etc etc. It's just what the scientists called it

KeenFlame ,

Fuck yes, sexual repression what a banger idea that is modern and haven't even been considered for literally thousands of years and proven abusive to exactly every human being on the planet

KeenFlame ,

Very long layman take. Why is there always so many of these on every ai post? What do you get from guesstimating how the technology works?

KeenFlame ,

We were talking about when it was coined, not when you heard it first

KeenFlame ,

Very long layman take. Why is your guesstimation so incredibly crucial to understand, then next thing important to understand then really, really important to understand, over and over, when you are not an expert?

KeenFlame ,

You are just wrong

KeenFlame ,

No scientific discover has value

KeenFlame ,

Yes wow its so not an impressive discovery at all, obviously for sure 1000%

KeenFlame ,

I want to just understand why people get so passionate about explaining how things work, especially in this field where even the experts themselves just don't understand how it works? It's just an interesting phenomenon to me

KeenFlame ,

Nope, it's actually not understood. Sorry to hear you don't understand that

KeenFlame ,

Did you misread something? Nothing of what you said is relevant

KeenFlame ,

Yeah! That's probably a good portion of it, but exasterbated by the general hate for ai, which is understandable due to the conglomorates abusive training data

KeenFlame ,

Not really, no, because these aren't biological, and the scientists that work with it is more interested in understanding why it works at all.

It is very interesting how the brain works, and our sensory processing is predictive in nature, but no, it's not relevant to machine learning which works completely different

KeenFlame ,

No, they have to follow laws.

KeenFlame ,

All companies have to follow laws. It's not rocket science.

KeenFlame ,

Laws, the ones that countries and sometimes bigger entities enact as rules

KeenFlame ,

Corporations have to follow laws. It's pretty simple? I am refuting your statement that they don't have to follow laws. It's up to you (once you grasp the concept) to continue the debate here

KeenFlame ,

I am falling asleep debating you honestly

This is what you wrote if you wonder

Meta is a private company and can do whatever the fuck they like.

This guy shouldn't be let anywhere near a position of decision making, let alone the highest office in the nation.

KeenFlame ,

Haha you suck at this

KeenFlame ,

Your thinking is extremely black and white. Many many, probably most actually, second guess chat bot responses.

KeenFlame ,

I don't understand what anyone wins from this

Corporations are foundationally evil

And how do they not win more if we poison the entire Internet?

It's like being in a toxic relationship with kids involved

Set boundaries

Follow rules

Don't destroy the fucking fruit of your bodies just because you are angry at each other

Fuck those guys, like a lot, for taking your given data and selling

And fuck open ai for trying to make money from scientific discoveries meant for all of humanity

But what the fuck with ruining the entire Internet?

Who gets anything then?

If language models will ruin Internet why be afraid that normal human responses are available? Wut?

KeenFlame ,

Yeah that's what we need, people like you that fearlessly mix outside your bubble. Good on ya. I won't deny that it's detestable that you want to vote for a neotode, but still.

KeenFlame ,

That's just worse. Not voting is a realistic plan to dismantle choice, to prove that we want to not have choice. It's a vote for faschism. A clear wish to become a dictatorship, that's just rump but with extra steps and no guardrails

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KeenFlame ,

An economic entity cannot care, I don't understand how people expect them to. They are not human

KeenFlame ,

No it is the entities doing it

KeenFlame ,

Fuck you are right

KeenFlame ,

No they are slaves to the entity.

They can be replaced

Everyone from top to bottom can be replaced

And will be unless they obey the machine's will

It's crazy talk to deny this fact because it feels wrong

It's just the truth and yeah, it's wrong

KeenFlame ,

In a bipartisan system it is

KeenFlame ,

I am a FIRM believer in any automated kill without a human pulling the trigger is a war crime

Yes mines yes uavs yes yes yes

It is a crime against humanity

Stop

KeenFlame ,

Yes

Because it is a slippery slope and dangerous to our future existence as a species

KeenFlame ,

I would imagine it was more than evasive since they called it a dogfight, but ye

KeenFlame ,

Yes the humanity factor is vital

Imagine the horrid destructive cold force of automated genocide, it can not be met by anything other than the same or worse and at that point we are truly doomed

Because there will then be no one that can prevent it anymore

It must be met with worse opposition than biological warfare did after wwI, hopefully before tragedy

KeenFlame ,

The line is where an automatic process target and execute a human being. When it is automated. The arming of a device is not sufficient to warrant a human interaction, and as such mines are also not allowed.

This should in my opinion always have been the case. Mines are indiscriminate and have proven to be wildly inhumane in several ways. Significantly, innocents are often killed.

But mines don't paint the picture of what automated slaughter can lead to.

The point has been laid that when the conscious mind has to kill, it makes war have an important way to end, in the mind.

The dangers extend well beyond killing innocent targets, another part is the coldness of allowing a machine to decide, that is beyond morally corrupt. There is something terrifying about the very idea that facing one of these weapons, there is nothing to negotiate, the cold calculations that want to kill you are not human. It is a place where no human ever wants to be. But war is horrible. It's the escalation of automated triggers that can lead to exponential death with no remorse which is just a terrible danger.

The murder weapons has nobody's intent behind them, except very far back, in the arming and the program. It open for scenarios where mass murder becomes easy and terrifyingly cold.

Kind of like the prisoner's dilemma shows us, that when war escalates, it can quickly devolve into revenge narratives, and when either side has access to cold impudent kills, they will use them. This removes even more humanity from the acts and the violence can reach new heights beyond our comprehension.

Weapons of mass destruction with automated triggers will eventually seal our existence if we don't abolish it with impunity. It has been seen over and over how the human factor is the only grace that ever end or contain war. Without this component I think we are just doomed to have the last intent humans ever had was revenge, and the last emotions fear and complete hopelessness.

KeenFlame ,

You described a scenarios where a human was involved in several stages of the killing so it's no wonder those don't hold up

KeenFlame ,

Biological and chemical warfare

KeenFlame ,

First it is enemy tanks. Then enemy air. Then enemy boats and vehicles, then foot soldiers and when these weapons are used the same happens to their enemy. Then at last one day all humans are killed

KeenFlame ,

Absolutely. But

There's a science and whole cultures built around war now

It is important to not infantilize the debate by being absolutist and just shutting any action out.

I am a hard core pacifist at heart.

But this law I want is just not related to that. It is something I feel is needed just to not spell doom on our species. Like with biological warfare

How often do robots fail? How can anyone be so naive as to not see the same danger as with bio warfare? You can't assure a robot to not become a mass murder cold ass genocidal perpetual machine. And that's a no no if we want to exist

KeenFlame ,

Like if someone made a biological weapon that wipes out a continent

Will someone go to prison?

It's no difference

KeenFlame ,

If a country implements murder machines that efficiently slay a continent then does not stop at the sea.

Will nobody for real do nothing?

Is that your belief for bad kills? Same with gas and engineered disease?

KeenFlame ,

Sorry I was stressed when replying. Yeah in those cases humans have pulled the trigger. At several stages.

When arming a murder bot ship and sending to erase an island of life, you then lose control. That person is not pulling loads and loads of triggers. The triggers are automatic by a machine making the decision to end these lives.

And that is a danger, same as with engineered bio warfare. It just cannot be let out of the box even, or we all may die extremely quick.

KeenFlame ,

The entire point of automating the killing is that it is no dead man's switch or any other human interaction involved in the kill. It is moot if there is one such. Call offs or dead switch back doors safety contingencies are not a solution to rampant unwanted slaughter as it can fail in so many ways and when the wars escalate to the point where those need to be used it is too late because there are 5 different strains of murder bots and you can only stop the ones you have codes to and those codes are only given to like three people at top secret level 28

KeenFlame ,

Ah, the child's way out of a discussion. Grandiose.

KeenFlame ,

Extremely childish to use personal attacks for me sharing my opinion

Good luck with that kind of graceful life lol bye man, if you ever grow up we can continue discussing haha

KeenFlame ,

Yes they do.

Do you not understand how childish it is to vomit several personal attacks on me for my opinion

You are the one interested and I reply my opinion

Grow the absolute fuck up

KeenFlame ,

Nope

KeenFlame ,

Very mature

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