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RobotToaster , to Privacy in YouTube is testing server-side ad injection to counteract ad blockers
@RobotToaster@mander.xyz avatar

Can we train a local AI model to recognise ads?

Zerush OP ,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

Not with the crrent ones, it's easier to difference ads by code than by content in most Vids, eg, divulgations, news, influencers, etc. YT, to not destroy the own business modell, also avoiding that there later also 5 years old vids with outdated ads, must use some kind of dynamic insertion, that means, it can be discovered and skipped by some userscripts, for sure not in the extension stores, but in Greasyfork or OpenuserJS, which are independent from Google influence.

TheAnonymouseJoker , to Privacy in YouTube is testing server-side ad injection to counteract ad blockers

Inserting ad clips between DASH HLS packets seems to have done the trick for YouTube. RIP ad blocking on YouTube. Have fun I guess... :/

Zerush OP ,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

We'll see.At the moment I see any ads, nor nags in YT, using userscripts instead of extensions, but anyway I'm going to keep an eye on what's happening in Greasyfork and OpenuserJS regarding YT in the future, this in any case offers many more options than the castrated extensions that will be in the stores to be able to stay there.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,

I am pessimistic about scripts being able to handle this, since it is a server side manipulation of streaming packets. It might be interesting if instead of seeing ads, a workaround is invented where the ad is not shown to user and video remains black and silent for that duration, and Google gets to hear such a thing has happened. If they get angry about it, it might reveal more about what they desire with forcing watching ads for people.

Zerush OP ,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

I'm not so pessimistic, as the proverb says, where there is a law, there is also a way around it.
There are many very capable devs who are screwed by YT and Google as well like us and in the script repositories they have a free hand, which as devs for extensions they do not have.
YT is the only problem for adblockers, even the inbuild blocker in Vivaldi works flawles, even cutting off cookie advices and some paywalls, only in YT it fails. But the userscript I use instead in YT work there even better than uBO, at least until now. Extensions are all limited by the imposed norms in the stores, more in the near future, it's this because I trust more in scripts, at least for certain tasks.. As said, we'll see.

worsedoughnut ,
@worsedoughnut@lemdro.id avatar

Don't be too optimistic, you probably haven't seen it because it's not being rolled out universally just yet; they like to A/B test their massive feature changes.

Zerush OP ,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

We'll see, it's sad but anyway I can live without YT, I'v other sites in my bookmarks to watch and listen what I want, I can only recommend trying to find the alternatives that work for each person and send YT to hell.

KeefChief13 , to Privacy in YouTube is testing server-side ad injection to counteract ad blockers

Youtube is testing my fucking patience.

Zerush OP ,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

For a lot of things I already had changed to alternative sites, the best alternative to YT IMHO is Odysee, music of all kind you can listen here 24/7, or in Bandcamp, for movies there is PlutoTV and the pages of the local public TV for free, news are in the homepage of the prefered newspaper, etc..

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Stay away from Odysee unless you are a neonazi

Zerush OP ,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

Certainly there are also neonazis, like in all other streaming platforms too, including YT, where I already blocked some channels because of this. Worst is removedute respect nazies.

Themadbeagle ,

Idk, Maybe instead of avoiding nazi spaces, people should take a page from their book and just invade them and overwhelm them. Idk about you, I have to put up with hearing and seeing bullshit daily, so my tolerance is high. A lot of these fascist can't even handle a picture of a catboy lol

possiblylinux127 ,
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Odysee is designed to support Nazis

JackbyDev , to Privacy in YouTube is testing server-side ad injection to counteract ad blockers

I'm surprised it took them this long.

MeaanBeaan , to Privacy in YouTube is testing server-side ad injection to counteract ad blockers

Anyone know if and how this might affect Grayjay or revanced?

mihor ,

I noticed some lagging lately on ReVanced, but nothing more, ATM. If the server side ads are the cause it's nothing major for now.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

If it ain't Foss it is a toss

Track_Shovel , to Privacy in YouTube is testing server-side ad injection to counteract ad blockers

What are the YT alternatives? I use it by default and I'm to exhausted to look for another landing place

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

That is a good question

kylian0087 ,

Odysee ! I use a detention even so if I click a video on YouTube and it is also on odysee it opened odysee instead.

Zeke , to Privacy in YouTube is testing server-side ad injection to counteract ad blockers

Honestly, I just pull videos from Youtube to watch later. I don't actually watch anything on Youtube. I do wonder if there's an upcoming replacement for Youtube like there was for Twitter.

haui_lemmy ,
@haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com avatar

Peertube

Turd_Ferg , to Privacy in YouTube is testing server-side ad injection to counteract ad blockers
@Turd_Ferg@sh.itjust.works avatar

Thats fine. This just fuels developers to make more efficient ad blockers. Youtube wont win the long game and the more they try stuff like this, the more people find out about ublock and other adblockers.

Zerush OP ,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

uBO and other traditional adblockers can do nothing against embedded ads in YT vids, at least not those in the extension stores. YT won't permit extensions in the official stores to make useless it's new policy. The solution can only be in independent sources, that is the problem. In the stores you'll find only descaffeinated adblockers which blocks only traditional ads on websites.
Install, Greasymonkey or Violentmonkey, maybe Tampermonkey and keep an eye on the script repositories.

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