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Ellvix , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours - HouseFresh
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Nice article, cool company

jqubed ,
@jqubed@lemmy.world avatar

I was looking forward to seeing more reviews from the company, then saw they only have reviews of air purifiers, humidifiers or dehumidifiers, and a few sensors. That’s pretty niche, and even if they maybe should be used more they probably need to branch out into more categories to get more attention. But it looks very thorough and useful if you need those items.

achance4cheese ,

I definitely went down the rabbit hole after reading the article posted, which was very well compiled. Their testing and reviews are very high quality and it looks like they can apply their test results to multiple curated use cases. Their tests also seem repeatable, which is important for this niche. To branch out, they would have to build out very specific testing environments, which is not a small investment, depending on what they are testing. If I ever need an air purifier, I know where to look now I guess. Like some say, if your going to do something, focus on doing one thing and do it well.

dangerous50 , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours

Kind of related question - any suggestions what to use if I want to skip this problem? I was looking for some headphones earlier and as explained in the article, most sites point to the same brands. I finally got to see some different brands/models and users reviews from forum group. The problem is I found those forums from Google... so any suggestions what I can try without being stuck in this google SEO vortex?

mozz OP ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Consumer Reports is still around and still excellent. I paid for a membership to them for quite some time and it was worth it.

I think it's an instance of the fundamental problem that if people generally want something (good reviews) for free, but it costs money to make, eventually it'll get hollowed out and replaced with something empty and worthless, because there wasn't money in continuing to provide it for free.

dangerous50 ,

Thanks. Totally forgot about them.

Very good point. And with this ads/google revenue model, it's SEO skills that makes money instead of good skill to write a meaningful review.

mozz OP ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Yeah. Meaningful reviews actually really interfere with your ability to make money, because your advertisers won't be super happy if the ad they paid money for saying "It tastes great!" is right next to the article explaining that actually it tastes like whale semen.

Spaghetti_Hitchens ,

Are you suggesting whale semen does not taste great?!

mozz OP ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Why did they add coconut? I miss original.

jarfil ,
@jarfil@beehaw.org avatar

Ambergris, or spermaceti, once believed to be whale semen, whence it got its name... other than for candles, perfumes, or as industrial lubricant... was also used as food glazing.

Food for thought. 🐳💦🍰

Ilandar ,

A lot of people just add "reddit" to their search query. It does work pretty well, but I realise not every Lemmy user will be willing to do that.

dangerous50 ,

Thanks I defn do that as well.

blindsight ,

As pointed out in the article, that's not necessarily perfect, either. Lots of companies hire people to post to Reddit about their products.

Ilandar ,

For sure, it is certainly a better option than SEO listicles though. If people push bad products there is always the potential for community push back.

mozz OP ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Yeah. It used to work, but now reddit is trash too now that people have figured out how to game the system there.

The big-leaguers actually have achieved a pretty impressive level of skill with it. "I just wanted to share a big thanks to the Delta crew that saved the day for me and my fiance, let me tell the story..." "MY CAT KILLED A LEAF AND BROUGHT IT TO ME, isn't she the best, let me share a photo coincidentally with a full McDonald's meal artfully framed on the table behind the kitty all facing forward and perfectly in focus. Yes we're having some McDonald's lol, I love the McChicken"

Nath ,
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Australia has Choice. It is funded and independent by being a paid/subscriber service, though being a member is not expensive. Choice is pretty well-known, as when a product wins a recommendation it is prestigious. Therefore, the manufacturers will proudly put a Choice logo on their ads to assure consumers that their product is good.

I can't see Choice going away, as it's a very good service and by far the most trusted source for unbiased reviews in Australia.

dangerous50 ,

Nice, this is very similar to the Consumer report. Its good to read reviews from different countries. I think its more likely they would focus on companies in their region. I used to read UK T3, they show more european brands.

Nath ,
@Nath@aussie.zone avatar

What sort of headphones are you looking for? Over-ear? Buds? Bluetooth? Bone Conducting?

dangerous50 ,

I am thinking of the tranditional wired over the ear ons.

Nath ,
@Nath@aussie.zone avatar

Choice recommends the Sennheiser HD range (HD 300, HD560S & HD 599). The 560S won out with quality of sound and bang-for-buck.

Their Headphones study actually surprised me, I rock a pair of Jabra Elite Active 3's as my daily, and Choice really hated the sound quality. I'm obviously no audiophile, as I love my Jabras. They also didn't love the Sony wh-1000xm range, which was the biggest surprise as they're by far the most popular headphones I see among my colleagues.

dangerous50 ,

Thanks for the info. Lol I am defn not audiophile so maybe your collegues and your preferences suit me more.

One thing I read in forums is that each headphone has different profile (not sure if its the right word) so it really depends on the personal taste. But hopefully these reviews help me narrow down a few so I can find a store to try them out.

jarfil ,
@jarfil@beehaw.org avatar

Profile is the right word, also response curve. If you can find one, try to look for a waterfall graph of "frequency, intensity, decay" to get a better idea of what to expect.

Studio headphones, or ones that you can most easily adjust the response with some EQ, have the flattest response curve and the shortest decay.

There is also transient response like with any electric circuit, but I haven't seen anyone do a full analysis for headphones.

dangerous50 ,

Thanks for these terms. One problem with google is how they always end up with big name domains and they basically use the same terms. And I need these terms you used so I can search in more depth. Thanks again.

zhunk ,

Wirecutter and RTINGS both do a lot of testing and reviews, including for headphones.

dangerous50 ,

Awesome. I ran into RTINGS a few times. But not wirecutter. Gonna give those a read.

Thanks

BCsven ,

You can sign up to kagi.com for non ad based rankings results like we had in 2010 era google searches. 100 free searches then a paid model.

Or use this open source engine a guy built and maintains in his basement
https://stract.com/

dangerous50 ,

I actually never heard of them. Gonna give them a try thanks!

vegetarian_pacemaker , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours

I wanted to support this site by trying to add it as an rss but they didn't have one :(

bedrooms , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours

I feel like Google results these days value the domain rather than the individual webpages instead. Always the same websites..

Kazumara , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours

Wow the SEO world is really sick

SecretPancake ,

I'm a web developer and used to work for companies focused on SEO over quality. It's a pain in the ass and takes all the fun out of the job.

davehtaylor ,
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In a just world, the idea of SEO shouldn't even exist. You shouldn't be able to game an algorithm to rise to the top. But that's what literally our entire world has become now. Social media influencers, scammy and spammy websites and services, AI art thieves, content farm sewage. None of it would exist if the algorithms didn't let you game them or promote certain behaviors.

conciselyverbose ,

The problem is that "don't let people game you" is extremely difficult.

It's many, many orders of magnitude easier to provide a useful search of sites that tell you the truth about what they are than it is when 99% of sites lie to you.

jaden , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours

I think this is part of the reason that Google sucks nowadays. I genuinely don't feel like I can trust it for finding products.

Spaghetti_Hitchens ,

I just use it for opening the door to learn about features (not brands/models) that I didn't know about previously. Then I do searches for those features and try to find forum results (usually Reddit unfortunately). It seems to work decently well

Gaywallet , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours
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Fantastic article highlighting the issue. Thanks!

GBU_28 , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours

I only trust impassioned long form comments from people who are either livid or in love.

Nobody is gonna spoof a review where a given air conditioner let's them sloppy fuck their overweight cougar hookup more comfortably, or how a shitty frying pan got them closer to bludgeoning their loud neighbors with it, and perhaps it's only redeeming value would be as said blunt instrument of violence.

When you find those reviews you know you are on it.

Ephera , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours

Goshdarnit, I've seen these weirdo webpages before, which would talk at length about how they've conducted tests, but then not show any data. I was seriously wondering, why they were bothering, but of course, it's some shitty metric they have to fulfill.

conciselyverbose , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours

I've definitely noticed the results suck ass, but this is a nice breakdown.

inverted_deflector , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours
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Part of this is also our fault for how we allowed our browsing habits to change and adjust and make the issue worse. Like how many of us will just search random things even if we want to search in or go to a specific website as a goto?

In the old days we might search once or find the website through word of mouth or links on other affiliated websites, and then bookmark good website and search there first before turning to google. Now? Lord knows I immediately google even if I know I can go to another website. Instead of browsing websites directly we sit on social media, be it reddit twitter facebook and are spoonfed our content without actually going to the original source or if we do just to the page and never to check. g like rolling stone reviewing air purifiers.

Some of this is the result of convenient access, some of this is thanks to addictive predatory design, and for those who held out as long as possible the companies in charge of content sites would pivot to cater towards social media and search algorithms and enshitify their homepage making it harder to bother.

Landless2029 , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours

I don't check out these sites...

I just buy the top 5 in a category. Test em. Return 4.

EZPZ

/s

tsonfeir , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours
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I don’t disagree that Google is crap, but who the fuck is House Fresh?

LaurelRerun ,

Well, that's kind of their point.

tsonfeir ,
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It appears their content starts in 2022, and they have less than 100 articles. Most of it trash. I’m pretty sure Google isn’t the reason they suck.

randomaside , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours

When you make a website and perform SEO tactics like the ones in this article, Google isn't providing a service to you, you're providing the service to Google.

anon6789 , to Technology in How Google is killing independent sites like ours
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It's frustrating there are so many bad reviews when it's not like basic material testing is that complicated. If a few of these media conglomerates just ripped off the things Project Farm does to branch out what products are tested, that would be immensely helpful. As a bonus, much of his testing is actually interesting to watch, so you'd actually be generating double the content, the review and the test itself.

I do enjoy Project Farm is testing more household items these days. The trashbag torture tests this week were good. He tests enough catagories that with whatever item he's testing, you can see what is the best value for daily use or what to get when you really need something to work no matter what you throw at it.

OminousOrange ,
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I've purchased a few things after listening to him yell at me for 20 minutes. The reviews are useful, but I wouldn't watch for pleasure.

anon6789 ,
@anon6789@lemmy.world avatar

Lol he is loud I guess. I'm surrounded by louder people, so I don't notice. 😁

You can always skip to the results chart at the end. I do that for things I'm kinda interested in but will probably never buy.

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