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dessalines ,
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Obligatory imperial troop copypasta:


You see american choppers in the bright blue sky, hundreds and hundreds of screaming american soldiers drop from it, you look across the field and see the tanks rolling in. You hear a loud explosion and realise that the shrine you have protected for thousands of years with tooth and nail is destroyed by the empire, you come to the realisation that this is very probably the end of your people who’ve struggled to survive all these centuries.You realise that very soon there is going to be a river of blood of your people here; white phosphorus and depleted uranium will be shot very soon, deforming babies for decades to come, and millions of your people are gonna be killed. Your millennia old language and religion will be wiped out, you’re very likely the last of your kind.

Suddenly, an American soldier kicks you down, puts his foot on your neck and aims his standard ar-15 on the side of your head all while screaming; you realise you’re gonna die, and you won’t have to see the destruction of your community that you fostered so carefully all these centuries for.

Just before he pulls the trigger, you think to yourself, “To be fair to him, he probably had a low GPA in highschool and didnt have a health-care, those are notoriously hard to get in America”.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

That's not fair at all

Vietnam veterans got drafted regardless of GPA and they have to fight tooth and nail to get treatment for Agent Orange caused leukemia.

fiend_unpleasant ,
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I see military service just like i do credit card debt. You got yourself into that situation, but you WERE mislead the entire time

uriel238 , (edited )
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Yeah, I see our veterans and fallen as victims rather than heroes, at least since Vietnam, when it was no longer clear we weren't the baddies.

By the time of the Gulf war and the Iraq war, it was clear we were poking our guns into places they didn't belong at costs the US couldn't afford, and we did anyway. And PMCs and torture made it super clear the US was the baddies.

I got closely acquainted with vets with TBIs (being a civilian TBI victim, myself) and the DVI did fuck-all for them, which was a disappointment since solders were coming home IED victims often with TBIs by the tens of thousands (but they survived, which means they weren't counted among our dead). The hope was the military was going to lead the way when it came to treatment and we civvies would ride on the coat-tails. Nope.

And that's how counter-recruitment writes itself.

TimewornTraveler ,

We're asked to remember them. There's lots of young people who were swindled into enlisting and died for a country that doesn't give a shit about them over a war for nothing.

Can we at least have a moment of silence for them?

Or for the ones who survived, but disillusioned, and struggling to readjust to life back home? Not every vet is a chud. Not every vet is pro war. Not every vet is pro America.

Wirlocke ,

I've met four different people involved in the military and also have met four questionable people.

My dad, never got deployed, was in prison for fencing items, also owned businesses that in retrospect were suspiciously ideal for money laundering. o7

Then my childhood friend, sprayed nazi graffiti around town, went to juvie, now serves the troops. o7

Then a coworker, former military (allegedly), has a psychosis (which isn't bad!), and was harassing his ex at her work based on delusions (which is bad). o7

Then a different coworker at a different place, active military, very authoritarian despite not knowing much and not being our supervisor. Made everyone uncomfortable and frustrated including our actual supervisor. Now he's becoming a National Guard. o7

LemmyKnowsBest ,

What is

o7

??

deo ,

OH! I see it! It's a little guy saluting

LemmyKnowsBest ,

Oh LOL ok, So based on the context of his comment, each salute was a bit sarcastic haha

Wirlocke ,

Yup, lol

acockworkorange ,

It was particularly challenging as US and NATO codify rank as O3, O4, etc.

TimewornTraveler ,

psychosis isn't something you have, it's something you experience. we say "in" active psychosis.

and it's pretty fuckin bad lol it's a difficult symptom

Wirlocke ,

I say Psychosis because I forget the exact mental disorder he had.

I also say "it's not bad" as in I'm not judging him for it.

julianh ,

Idk, I feel like this is kind of reductive. I honestly more feel bad for troops and veterans. Recruitment takes advantage of people without much money or direction in life, promising things like a free college education, employment, and benefits for them and their family. Lots of people who join just don't have many other options. I opt to blame the system, not the people the system takes advantage of.

obre ,

Nuanceposting? In my shitposting forum?

julianh ,

It's more likely than you think

Mac ,

Call 1-800-SHT-POST for a free consultation!

theneverfox ,

Totally true, and also why the practice of publicly glorifying veterans in social gatherings puts me off so hard

The very shallow showing of respect is part of the recruitment effort. It seems like veterans are respected, but they're not - they get a moment of applause during events, but it basically starts and ends there

frickineh ,

Brb, bout to post this on nextdoor and watch all my neighbors fight.

Seriously though, this dude made a post on there today about how he's "been wearing his army gear the last few days and no one has thanked him for his service." I would walk into traffic if I was ever that embarrassing.

todd_bonzalez ,

This is only marginally less sad than grown men wearing their letterman jackets.

Kolanaki ,
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How much you wanna make a bet I can throw a football over them mountains?... Yeah... Coach woulda put me in fourth quarter, we would've been state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind.

bolexforsoup , (edited )
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frickineh ,

My area has near constant posts about a vehicle driving by someone's house, accompanied by blurry footage of absolutely nothing of note, and half the commenters are convinced that it's for a crime and the other half are like, "you know this is a public street with other residents, right?" God forbid a realtor ever takes photos for comps. It's the fucking mafia, out to steal all of Janice's lawn ornaments, obviously.

It's just an absolute black hole of suck, but I work for a nearby city, so it's a good way to find out if there are resident concerns that aren't batshit crazy, so I keep my account active. I can only tolerate about 5 minutes at a time, though.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Nextdoor is literally useless house wives removed about NIMBY shit. I despise it. It is actively DNS Blocked at home.

DaGeek247 ,
@DaGeek247@fedia.io avatar

A lot of other veterans would agree with you. Memorial day is for the ones that didnt make it home. This dumbass mightve been better off following their footsteps if this is his usual level of thoughtfulness.

frickineh ,

Some did point that out - about 200 other comments fell all over themselves to thank him and blame "kids these days," though, so it was pretty much the worst. My ex-husband spent a couple decades in the military, and he was suuuper uncomfortable being thanked, so I know that attitude is by no means universal. It's just cringey as hell.

lars ,

I really appreciate knowing there are people like you out there ready to do the right thing to save yourself and save our collective cringe.

Thank you for your service. Gob bless.

frickineh ,

Oh my god, finally. I've been wearing my Internet Cringe Police shirt all week and you're the only one who has thanked me for protecting the American people with my life or my wifi or whatever.

lars ,

If I ever see you walking into traffic I will just smile and pour one out for you

LemmyKnowsBest ,

Anyway it seems plenty of people are confused about what the holidays are for. memorial Day is about remembering people who have died, particularly the people who died in line of combat in the military.

Veterans Day is the day we're supposed to thank a veteran.

Labor Day, I still don't know what that one's about, something about honoring everyone who has to work all the time? Labor?. So we get a day off. I guess.

Bytemeister ,

Shoot, my mom told me Labor day was a second mother's day, to thank her for pushing my 9.5lb body out of her poor vagina.

swab148 ,
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Labor Day was supposed to be a celebration of the organized labor that got most of our worker's rights, but now it's just a celebration of day drinking and an excuse to offload the excess stock from Memorial Day and Independence Day.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Wearing your army gear or uniform in civilian life as a means to flex is a major no-no in the Uniform Code.

LinkOpensChest_wav ,
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I give as much of a shit about the US troops as I do about cops

NickwithaC ,
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The US government after they come home...

BreadOven ,

Oof. Too true for far too many countries.

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