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cumskin_genocide ,

You know it smells in here

caseyweederman ,

Not sure why I couldn't find a file with more pixels but:
https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/d4cdfcc9-0024-44e3-977b-cbab02c55365.jpeg

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I wish whatever people call "goth" today had a different name, because "goth" to me is people like this-

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e629bca0-c6af-441f-84cb-4b2b25a0b1e8.png

Now it's people like this-

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/08204976-3742-4481-b0eb-e0c3e5393736.png

I think both looks are fine, but it's weird to me how substantially different goths today look from goths of my youth compared to, for example modern punks, who still basically look like punks have always looked.

caseyweederman ,

It's amazing the results you can get by taking a picture on color film.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The color has nothing to do with it. You really can't see a complete difference in look?

But if you want color-

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/775ca142-12c2-4ecc-90a7-571ae52a5213.png
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fd6d8f62-598a-4a87-a697-17391d4206e8.png

SkybreakerEngineer ,

Still fake goths. Not one of them looks like they could sack Rome

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Don't underestimate Robert Smith. He's only in love on Fridays. He spends the rest of the week training for combat.

Timecircleline ,

The clothing is actually quite similar, I think the big difference is the hair is smaller these days. Which kind of tracks- most hair today is smaller than 80s hair.

caseyweederman ,

On the one hand, I was going for the cheap joke.
On the other hand, it is not obvious to me which group is supposed to be superior to the other.

abysmalpoptart ,

To me, goths are the people who sacked Rome in 410. None of this makes sense to me.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Listening to The Smiths is good for your health.

abysmalpoptart ,

Ha, i am somewhat familiar with the genre, i just wanted to contribute :) studied ancient rome, so that is legit what i typically think of when i hear goth.

AceFuzzLord ,
@AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee avatar

This post has some real "My resolution is to post this on Lemmy... and also to not procrastinate!" kind of vibe to it.

JackbyDev ,

Gotteem

roguetrick ,

Here, it's Cradle of Filth. It got me through some pretty bleak times. Try Track 4, Coffin Fodder. It sounds horrible but it's actually quite beautiful.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar
jawa21 ,
@jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

OK the serious problem with using a loop count like this is that by the time someone has read previous context etc, the image has completely stopped. This practice is infuriating to me. If I wanted to actually see thus gif animated, I now have to not only know the context/show etc but have no idea what was being implied. Gifs are already a horrible bandwidth hogging format, but looping it costs no more of that. Removing the primary point of posting a gif in a comment here only causes loss of context.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

I don't like this GIF but for different reasons. It started off with the focus being on him, the goth, but then the focus switched to being about her reacting to him - which was fine for a brief duration in the middle of the animation, but as you say once it stops then it remains that way, forever (until/unless you reload the page).

But one thing I do like about it is how it STOPS. As I scroll down on Lemmy, when people have GIFs, especially within usernames, that go on just literally forever, I for one find that highly distracting. And I would not want to visit a place that had just unlimited gifs scrolling unlimited-ly.

It would be better to either have a static image - which I note that when I search for the identical query terms from a desktop, I see almost all of, whereas that same search from my Android I had trouble finding even a single one that was not an animated GIF!? - or else a well-designed GIF that made its point, either looping in a manner that was not so distracting, e.g. without that sudden jerking from one frame to then wrap back to the beginning one, and/or less range of motion.

Probably what I should have done was convert it to a movie format. I had done some testing on an earlier image but forgot what worked best so would have to do all that again:-). The problem there is that someone has to actually click to start it... which might not be such a big issue, in the grand scheme of things. And then they can start, stop, rewind, fast-forward, etc. at will.

It would be so much better, I keep thinking, if our Firefox or whatever readers would implement an automatic loop-count control, like it would show a preset number of times (configurable in your settings) and then if you clicked the image or some button hovering nearby it then it could start that loop over again. But maybe as you say, if the GIF format is so horrendous then perhaps the developers actively avoid doing things to make people's lives easier if it involves keeping that format alive rather than helping to kill it dead. Plus, for good or ill, we are moving past web browsers now to app content for every single thing in the world right now it seems (I think ill, b/c that has its own considerations like security, but also as this issue brings to light, code/innovation reuse), so that even if Firefox or an Add-On or Extension or whatever were to completely solve it, the solution would not be available to most people.

On the other hand, limited usage of images - as in those that are animations should be even more limited than static ones - also increases a feeling of welcomingness in a community. Some people really dislike the giant wall of text format, others dislike anything but that (and those people can turn off images if they like?), and probably there's a huge middle ground everywhere in-between - like if someone has a filter to selectively turn off all images from e.g. gliffy or media-tenor.com or some such, but allows others.

So I have thought about this issue! And a couple of times a constrained 1-2 loops worked well... but agreed that this instance was much more of a failed experiment.

555 ,

Sir, this is Lemmy, not your thesis.

MehBlah ,

No lie, too much executive dysfunction first thing the morning for shitty breakdown of an iconic IT crowd moment.

555 ,

Executive meth-head.

marcos ,

Firefox used to have video controls for gifs. For some reason, now that people decided not to loop them, the controls are also gone.

Anyway, I guess I care about the controls more than about the gif.

MehBlah ,

Right click on the image and select open in new tab. No controls but looping works just fine.

Timecircleline ,

Pssst... The IT Crowd (original, not the terrible American remake). It's delightful. You won't regret it.

barsoap ,
Skullgrid ,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar
RubberElectrons , (edited )
@RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

Jokes on him, gothboy is also broke. Seriously, some of my goth stuff is expensive 🙄

555 , (edited )

Real goths don’t buy expensive goth stuff. All you need is the attitude and a color palette* to match your soul.

RubberElectrons ,
@RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

"no true Scotsman", sounds so bland.

Read it again: some

Flummoxed ,

I've now tagged you as the Goth Gatekeeper. I'd love to see your credentials.

555 ,

I don’t have to prove anything to you.

Flummoxed ,

Neither does OP of this thread, and yet you judged him. Hypocrite.

555 ,

Everyone here is having a good time cracking jokes about being goth… except for you. Go back to hot topic.

Flummoxed ,

You just can't help but be judgmental, can you. Points because you're right: everyone but you enjoyed thread OP. And maybe you did too, but you chose to basically shit on OP because of the Goth equivalent of "no true Scotsman." Not seeing anyone laughing with you here, just around you.

555 ,

Don’t pick fights where there are no fights. Bye.

Welt ,

Palette. A pallet holds bricks and a palate tastes food

Emmie ,
@Emmie@lemm.ee avatar

Palette sounds too french for my English soul

roguetrick ,

They're all from French. Pallet comes from a a word for straw, palette for shovel, and palate for the top of the mouth.

bitfucker ,

How about pellet?

roguetrick , (edited )

Also French, from "small ball." Originally Latin pilla, meaning it's twinned with pill. Pill came direct from Latin though, so no weird French influences.

bitfucker ,

Damn the French!

555 ,

This is what I get for using speech to text and pressing send.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I bet I could hold some bricks with a palette too. I mean, it's basically just a plate for your paint. 🤷🏻‍♂️

AVincentInSpace ,

I'm picturing now competitions in which people compete to see how many bricks at once they can carry on a palette X number of feet

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Now I kinda wanna prompt an AI to give me a picture of an extremely large Bob Ross using a pallet as his palette.

AlexWIWA , (edited )

Using other peoples' money technically satisfies his goal

edgemaster72 ,
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

It's never too late to become goth

Klear ,
veganpizza69 ,
@veganpizza69@lemmy.world avatar

Cultural Evolution of Pants https://peterturchin.com/cultural-evolution-of-pants/

If you are in North America or Western Europe and look around, on any particular day, you will find most people wearing pants. But why is it the standard item of clothing for people, especially men belonging to the Western civilization. Why not a kilt, a robe, a tunic, a sarong, or a toga?

Klear ,

Great article, thanks for sharing!

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