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Kolanaki , in The devil himself...
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Ugh... He's also one of those "first" posters? What a jackass.

BolexForSoup , in Can KBin not like, freak out at any turn when surfing on it?
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Can we not like, do that Reddit thing at every turn where a certain topic/title always makes it to the top and everybody just duplicates it even though the exact same conversation happens every time?

fartington , in The Biden Lies the Liberal Media Want You to Forget

Bill D'Agostino is the Media Editor for NewsBusters and Senior Research Analyst for the Media Research Center's News Analysis division. His work has been featured on Fox News, The Daily Wire, The Mark Levin Show, and many other conservative outlets.

HubertManne ,
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thanks

sxan ,
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Block the poster, or the whole magazine?

Max_P , in Kbin /m/fediverse is over 90% spam
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The guy that manages Kbin has been having personal issues and stepped away from the fediverse so yeah Kbin is kind of in limbo at the moment and indeed not well moderated. There's mods but there's just so much they can do. The software doesn't federate the deletions so even if they're gone on Kbin, they remain everywhere else.

palordrolap ,

One of the main problems is that Ernest is the owner and only mod on those magazines getting all the spam. I guess I missed the memo (figuratively speaking) about deletions not being federated though. That seems like a problem even if there were alternative moderators.

There's at least one person on the mod-request queue for most of the spam-ridden magazines. That "at least one" is me, which is how I know. I'm not here all the time and wouldn't be great at it, but at this stage even a part-time mod would be better than none at all. Hopefully, as and when Ernest comes back he can assign some roles. Twice as hopefully, someone else who would be better at it gets it instead.

OpenStars , in So long and thanks for the nice time.
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Relevant comment from a few days ago: https://lemmy.max-p.me/comment/2612621

intelisense ,

That's a shame - kbin had some cool ideas.

OpenStars ,
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I hope it goes on. And being open source, it definitely will! (e.g. Mbin)

Ernest likewise will be remembered, fondly or otherwise, for his contributions in starting it.

That said, I'm close to personally blocking it due to all the spam hitting other servers from it, and the FBI may come knocking soon as well if people decide to hit it with illegal stuff like CP.

CaptObvious , in President Biden is now posting into the fediverse

Threads isn't exactly the fediverse.

btaf45 OP ,

They don't have the entire Mastodon functionality yet but it is awesome we can follow Biden on Mastodon.

CaptObvious ,

They’ll never have the full Mastodon functionality because they’re Facebook. It’s always going to be a one way proposition where Masto can see them but they can’t see us. It’s honestly kind of like being a creepy Peeping Tom.

Assuming, of course, that your instance doesn’t block Threads. Many (most?) do. Some even block second-degree connections.

btaf45 OP ,

They’ll never have the full Mastodon functionality

Until they do, my only interaction with Threads will be to follow Biden on kbin.

Sabata11792 OP , (edited ) in The devil himself...
btaf45 ,

https://kbin.social/m/random/p/5219740/First-post-in-the-fediverse

Can you explain how you know this link path to someone who doesn't?

Sabata11792 OP ,

I found the post in the microblog section by chance and copied the link. Just good timing. I have no idea how to sort though that section of the site.

Rottcodd , in Can KBin not like, freak out at any turn when surfing on it?

This isn't "the fediverse." This is one instance. "The fediverse" is a network of interoperable instances, each one owned and maintained separately.

Personally, I think the best way to interact with the fediverse is to maintain accounts on multiple instances. I have a dozen or so accounts total, and regularly use four or five of them. They're all under the same name, so they're all "me," but they're spread out instead of everything being on one account on one instance.

The main reason I prefer that is that every instance is different. Even though they're all interacting with the same broad pool of content, they each have a different userbase with different preferences, which means that they each have a different set of federated instances and subscribed communities. There's a fair amount of stuff I'll see on one instance but not on another, and it follows the overall focus of the instance. So whatever my mood might be or I might be interested in, I have an account on a suitable instance to match it.

Another advantage though, and directly on topic, is that I always have an alternative if one of them is having problems. Since each instance is privately owned and maintained rather than being owned by a corporation and maintained by its staff, there's any number of quirks and difficulties and failures. And that's just the way it is - the people running these instances are just ordinary people who are basically donating their time and resources, and they don't owe us anything. We get whatever we get, and have no right to demand any more than that.

With accounts on multiple instances, it doesn't matter if one or another of them has difficulties at the moment, or even if one shuts down completely (as two of my favorites have), since i can just switch to a different instance any time.

Kbin is special. It's an entirely different piece of software from Lemmy (and a better one in many ways). But it was written primarily by one person - Ernest - and he's also the owner of this instance. And while he's a great guy, he's also a single individual with other interests and responsibilities, and with some health issues. So it's a great place running on a great piece of software, but it has some difficulties and is often slow and/or glitchy. That's fine - I still like it here, so it's one of my most-used accounts, and I can always use a different one on a different instance if this one is too much of a problem.

TheAgeOfSuperboredom , in Mbin: A kbin fork that promises to never review PRs before merging them

Sounds like it'll be a disaster

southsamurai , in The Biden Lies the Liberal Media Want You to Forget
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The fuck are you smoking? This is in the wrong community, and I think you know that

lowdownfool , in Kbin /m/fediverse is over 90% spam
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I left several months ago due to the spam. Got that old Reddit itch so came back. Looks bleak.

Indy , in Kbin /m/fediverse is over 90% spam

Agreed. My block list is unbelievable. As I've said in previous comments about this kind of thing: communication is key.
We're getting zero communication and, if we so wanted to leave, can't even delete our own accounts on the way out.

Raffster ,

Tried to delete my account here as well. No such luck.

Indy ,

Indeed. I've heard that from others as well.
I, personally, do not intend to delete my account (yet), but I am aware that it is a manual process. As so much is here, it seems.

I recently made some adjustments to my stuff here and it's helped a little. (You'll see the irony momentarily.)
I've unsubscribed from most kbin magazines and have subscribed to magazines (communities) from other Fediverse instances instead. Now my feed actually has content and a lack of SPAM. So, essentially, I'm here in name only.

Eventually, all of us normal users will need to ditch this platform because we won't our names/accounts tied to something that is notorious for SPAM and other illegal activities. Perhaps sooner than later, if the rest of the Fediverse decides to stop federating with kbin.
Until then, I figure at least I can still look through the window at the rest of the Fediverse.

hitmyspot , in I think we should slightly rethink how login works on most Fediverse apps (Mastodon, Lemmy, but not only)

To do so, there would need to be a centralized or federated list of all accounts. If it was centralized it would be against federation principles. If it was federated, then anyone who sets up a server would potentially have access to all email addresses. Perhaps,more in the style of email, like @user but that would likely lead to more confusion as people would put their email and it is essentially the same information.

I do agree that log in as the opening page is not a great experience. Helping people to find an instance should be easier to filter. Rather than a list by popularity, let them know choosing by interest or location can help find relevant content and have easy to use clickable filters to do so.

ginerel OP ,
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To do so, there would need to be a centralized or federated list of all accounts

Why would there be? The app would just search for the domain name first (let's say "aussie.zone") and then your username (in your case "hitmyspot"). That's kinda how email works as well. What centralized database would you need to interrogate a server on login? It's no different than the current implementation, only that you do not need to remember the website first, just enter the whole username in one go.

hitmyspot ,

The domain for my email is gmail.com not Aussie zone. I also cannot log in to gmail on the hotmail (outlook? )site. Perhaps you are interpreting their request to not use username and site name and instead use email, to instead use a long form Lemmy username?

That could work, but I don't know that it adds any extra layer of simplicity, but maybe that's what they meant. My interpretation is that they are saying to link your account to your email address, as that's what most other services do. Without knowing which instance you register with, there would need to be a registry. Perhaps this could be hashed in some way, but it would still be effectively public facing as any instance would need access.

ginerel OP ,
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Perhaps you are interpreting their request to not use username and site name and instead use email, to instead use a long form Lemmy username?

No, I was saying to use their Fediverse username and their Fediverse password. Sorry if I got misunderstood. Nothing to do with the actual email address used at signup.

eveninghere , in I think we should slightly rethink how login works on most Fediverse apps (Mastodon, Lemmy, but not only)

No, because security. Look up how oauth works and why.

ginerel OP ,
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Email providers also have oauth

Die4Ever , in I think we should slightly rethink how login works on most Fediverse apps (Mastodon, Lemmy, but not only)
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tl;dr: apps should login with the username die4ever@programming.dev similar to email, instead of choosing instance programming.dev and then typing in die4ever for username separately

yea that probably would be simpler, I'm sure some apps already do this

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