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Delusional , (edited ) in G.M. Sold Millions of Cars That Were More Polluting Than Allowed, E.P.A. Says| The agency reached a settlement with the automaker over the sales of S.U.V.s and pickups that emitted excess CO₂

People shit on CA smog tests but if every state had them, this wouldn't be as much of an issue and the states would generate more revenue.

PanArab , in G.M. Sold Millions of Cars That Were More Polluting Than Allowed, E.P.A. Says| The agency reached a settlement with the automaker over the sales of S.U.V.s and pickups that emitted excess CO₂

From the streetcar conspiracy to this. GM sure has an illustrious history.

RiikkaTheIcePrincess , in G.M. Sold Millions of Cars That Were More Polluting Than Allowed, E.P.A. Says| The agency reached a settlement with the automaker over the sales of S.U.V.s and pickups that emitted excess CO₂
@RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social avatar

That's how many major car companies caught bullshitting emissions requirements now? It's almost as if there's some kind of underlying thing driving (pun unintended but welcome ;3 Call it comic relief if you like) capitalist entities toward awful behaviour.

kjaeselrek ,

An invisible hand made me do it!

marx2k , in G.M. Sold Millions of Cars That Were More Polluting Than Allowed, E.P.A. Says| The agency reached a settlement with the automaker over the sales of S.U.V.s and pickups that emitted excess CO₂

Quite honestly, which auto company hasn't cheated emissions testing?

ch00f , in G.M. Sold Millions of Cars That Were More Polluting Than Allowed, E.P.A. Says| The agency reached a settlement with the automaker over the sales of S.U.V.s and pickups that emitted excess CO₂

How do you emit excess CO2? Like I can imagine if it isn’t burning clean and shitting out CO or particulates or something, but wouldn’t “excess CO2” just mean they’re just inefficient?

Do they not meet their mileage ratings?

FireRetardant ,

They had standard to meet that a vehicle of a certain weight/class must not exceed certain amount of emissions. They made vehicles that didn't meet that standard, shrugged and put them to market anyway because they knew the profits would outweigh any "punishment" fron the spineless regulatory bodies.

The whoe CAFE standards and the shift in car sizes associated with them should be enough evidence to prove the EPA has failed and become disconnected from its true purposes

ch00f ,

Yeah I get that. I think it’s just odd to phrase it as emitting too much CO2, and not getting poor mileage.

LovesTha , (edited ) in G.M. Sold Millions of Cars That Were More Polluting Than Allowed, E.P.A. Says| The agency reached a settlement with the automaker over the sales of S.U.V.s and pickups that emitted excess CO₂
@LovesTha@floss.social avatar

@mondoman712 $24 per vehicle?

That is a joke.

Fines can work, when people expect the fines to actually hurt.

technocrit ,

Fines are only a punishment for the poor.

OmnipotentEntity , (edited ) in G.M. Sold Millions of Cars That Were More Polluting Than Allowed, E.P.A. Says| The agency reached a settlement with the automaker over the sales of S.U.V.s and pickups that emitted excess CO₂
@OmnipotentEntity@beehaw.org avatar

6 million cars, the fine is $140 million. That's $24 or so per car. There's no way that GM saved only $24/car doing this. So the fine is just a cost of doing business.

EDIT:

The company has also voluntarily retired about 50 million tons of carbon dioxide pollution credits, which are issued by the E.P.A. and used by auto companies to make it easier to comply with increasingly stringent federal tailpipe emissions standards. G.M. estimates the value of the loss of the credits at about $300 million, reflecting what it paid for them a decade or so ago. However, the market value of those carbon credits varies, and a more recent government estimate of $86 per credit would put the value at about $4.6 billion.

This is probably where the actual sting to them is.

rockSlayer , (edited ) in G.M. Sold Millions of Cars That Were More Polluting Than Allowed, E.P.A. Says| The agency reached a settlement with the automaker over the sales of S.U.V.s and pickups that emitted excess CO₂

And thanks to the overturning of Chevron, the EPA is unable to do anything.

akilou , in G.M. Sold Millions of Cars That Were More Polluting Than Allowed, E.P.A. Says| The agency reached a settlement with the automaker over the sales of S.U.V.s and pickups that emitted excess CO₂

A settlement. That'll really put the emissions back in the ground

friend_of_satan , in G.M. Sold Millions of Cars That Were More Polluting Than Allowed, E.P.A. Says| The agency reached a settlement with the automaker over the sales of S.U.V.s and pickups that emitted excess CO₂

Fuck SUVs in particular.

potate , in G.M. Sold Millions of Cars That Were More Polluting Than Allowed, E.P.A. Says| The agency reached a settlement with the automaker over the sales of S.U.V.s and pickups that emitted excess CO₂

Fines clearly don't work. We need criminal penalties.

Croquette ,

They don't work because they are super low.

If the fines cost more than what companies gain from cheating, they will be a lot less inclined to cheat.

But in this case, this is a joke fine.

yessikg , in G.M. Sold Millions of Cars That Were More Polluting Than Allowed, E.P.A. Says| The agency reached a settlement with the automaker over the sales of S.U.V.s and pickups that emitted excess CO₂
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Ofc

autotldr Bot , in G.M. Sold Millions of Cars That Were More Polluting Than Allowed, E.P.A. Says| The agency reached a settlement with the automaker over the sales of S.U.V.s and pickups that emitted excess CO₂

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The Biden administration reached a settlement with General Motors after determining that the automaker sold nearly six million cars that emitted more planet-warming carbon dioxide than the company had claimed, violating federal regulations.

will pay more than $145.8 million in penalties for selling vehicles between model years 2012 and 2018 that were required to comply with Obama-era auto tailpipe emissions standards designed to reduce planet-warming pollution.

“Our investigation has achieved accountability and upholds an important program that’s reducing air pollution and protecting communities across the country.”

GM remains committed to reducing auto emissions and working toward achieving the Administration’s fleet electrification goals,” the statement said.

Once fully implemented, the new rules are designed to ensure that the majority of new passenger cars and light trucks sold in the United States are all-electric or hybrids by 2032, up from less than 10 percent last year.

The loss of G.M.’s carbon dioxide pollution credits in the settlement could make it more difficult or expensive for the company to comply with those new rules.


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cron , in The real reason suburbs were built for cars

When posting a 20 minute video, I'd appreciate a short summary.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

You’re assuming that the 20 minute video isn’t already a short summary of something larger. You can only summarize something so much before reducing it to uselessness.

Nouveau_Burnswick ,

Then how about a synopsis?

If I know what the contents of the video are going be, then I know if it's worth watching for some new insight; or if it's something I've heard/read about already.

eighty ,

exactly, not everyone has time to stop everything and watch a random 20 minute video from a thread based on essentially "trust me bro"

especially with a vague and borderline clickbait title. To prove a point, I'm going to watch it at some point and I can almost guarantee i can either summarise it or provide a synopsis.

sunzu ,

I always suspect that the spytube links just farming views.

I think I did see this one, some good research there. Specifically focusing how "suburban" dream was cooked up by federal agency pre WW2 and yes based on some strong racists ideas. Once WW2 happened, the nation was ready for the big boy play and here we are.

cron ,

It definitely is, the video description mentions a master thesis.

Every book has a cover text to give the reader some information. Every thesis has an abstract with the key points. But sadly on YouTube, the video description is often pretty useless.

HEXN3T , in Elon Musk haters vandalized dozens of Tesla Cybertrucks by spray painting "F**K ELON" on dozens of them
@HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I wonder if it was done to dozens of them

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