I hadn't been paying attention to the election results. My first reaction was a happy one at the meme. But then I read some comments and they are disputing it.
So what's the situation? How fascist is Europe now?
Yeah I think that OP need to look a little more t European politics, as half if not most of these countries have been sliding right like there is no tomorrow, literally.
Why is Germany included in this? The fucking brown shit nazis of the AfD had huge gains this election and became second strongest party in the country.
I feel like going around and smacking everyone who was too lazy or to uninterested to drag their ass to a voting booth and stand up against this ongoing shift to the right.
Seriously, Germany makes it super easy to vote. You are automatically registered, get an invitation in the mail, get mail ballots with 2 clicks on your cities website and there is literally a polling station for everyone in walking distance and no wait time. THERE IS NO EXCUSE!!
Also, please note that the German AfD is so batshit extreme, that even the other european Nazis don't want anything to do with them and kicked them out of their EU coalition.
They are under constant observation by the German Verfassungsschutz because they are dancing on the line that would make them an anti-democratic extremists group that would be banned by law.
You mean the free housing they provided to the Jews, or what? Even free showers they had there. And free mass graves.
The Nazis were NEVER social.
They are as social as the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" (North Korea) is Democratic. About 0.00%.
Anybody can call themselves anything, that doesn't make them that.
You want to brush up on your history, if you go around and tell people what the Nazis aren't and weren't.
The two far-right parties in Portugal, the Iniciativa Liberal (American-style ultra-neoliberals) and the Chega (Fascists) were the only parties who grew their vote and Parliamentary representation, which together now adds to almost 20%
Further, if you add them to the AD cohalition (containing the center-right party and the traditionalist conservative one) who came second just a short way from the first placed, and even if you consider the winner a leftwing party (whilst they're supposedly center-left, their politics are "slightly socially-aware neoliberal", so them being left-of-center is open to dispute), AD plus the two far right parties still adds to a victory of the Right when last time around it was the Left that was ahead.
There is no way in Hell any of this shit can be seen as a victory from the point of view of the Leftwing unless "we didn't got trashed as much as we could" is a "victory".
Wtf are you talking about the fascists had a huge win this election and the liberals aren't even doing any handwringing they just pretend everythings fine and we can just vote them out in the next cycle.
It kinda feels like they did this to themselves in France at least. If they weren't so help bent on raising the requirement retirement age, people might've not flipped so hard. And of course it won't get fixed and they'll have other issues, but people don't often think that far ahead...
I'm from Germany and the Nazis were 2nd strongest Power.
And they were even 1st strongest Power in the entire old GDR.
Would not call that “beating” yet.
And maybe I'm not up-to-date about the Netherlands, but my latest info there was that the Far Right also won many votes again.
So still really shit times. When looking on the German Nazis they grow and grow.
In the Netherlands most far right seats were shuffled between FVD (4 to 0) and PVV (1 to 6/7). Can't explain their final seat, but I guess it might have to do with there being more this time around? We did have a couple progressive parties gain a little (D66 +1, Volt +2), but over all right/left/far right are said to have roughly retained their size compared to last elections.
This makes PVV the second biggest list in NL, with GL/PvdA (Green/socialist left alliance) being first at 8 seats. Thing is, while GL/PvdA is collaborating in our national politics as basically one party, they're expected to join the European factions they're already a part of, separating them into 2× 4 seats. They will (and have been) collaborate and align their votes in Parliament and believe such collaboration might be the way forward on a European level as well.
Because our media loves for there to be a heated fight, this is being interpreted as a victory for both PVV and GL/PvdA depending on who you ask
Let's not forget that CDU won by a very small difference to AFD. And it's not exactly like CDU is super progressive man. We are in a timeline where we are celebrating that CDU won.
Thankfully it's not unrecoverable. They got a few more seats, but are still a relatively fringe party.
I'm heavily considering signing up as a member of Volt Romania. They weren't big enough to be on the ballot this year, but a lot can happen in 5 years.
Do german not see the effects of climate change? Why would they not vote for green party? Germany has faced such harsh weather this year with all sorts of weirdness
Can't speak for Europe, but Canadian green parties are an uncomfortable split between true-believers that are unfortunately spending more time on identity politics than environmentalism, and hucksters looking to make money off the green movement.
That's what happens in liberal democracys. Even the German social democrats are neoliberals. You can also see it in Great Britain with the "labour" party.
Yes climate change all fine and well, but have you actually seen what they want us to do? Ride one of those gay bicycles to work and eat less beef. Next thing you know they want to put up renewable energy wind turbines in my neighborhood, that ruins the pretty landscape! No, I dont want to tighten ecological protections, why do you ask?
Well, if you put on a skimpy outfit that emphasises those muscles and smear yourself in oil before going out and self-transport using them, it might be a little bit gay ...
True: pure Transportation can't really be gay or not be gay as it's orthogonal to the subject of sexuality.
However, nothing stops people from mixing some Recreation into their Transportation if they're willing to lose some efficiency in the latter and I was just imagining how one could possibly do it for making it somehow "gay".
Nah, I got it. It's just that even referencing misconceptions (e.g. that cycling is for lycra-clad wannabe-racers) derisively helps spread them, and unlike my previous comment, I couldn't think of a way to rebut this one and be funny at the same time.
In other words, it was really more of a "me" problem: promoting utility cycling is kinda my pet issue. I didn't write it, but this pretty much captures the perspective I'm coming from and how strongly I feel about it.
Because voting Green would mean that the Greens could and would make decisions that would actually change stuff and therefore would force people to change things in their life and face reality (using cars/flying less, changing your diet, not using gas/oil for heating homes etc.). But people want to carry on like always even if it means they'll literally drown doing it and that's what the fascists (and would-be fascists aka "conservatives" and "liberals") are doing/promising, so that's what people are voting. It's the same as voting for conservatives / liberals after the financial crisis, literally the people who made the mess were told to carry on with it. It's so bizarre.
In addition to the other comments: Germany has a lot of voters that are like 60+, some of which either don't care too much because they will die long before the worst of climate change happens, or simply don't want to change. Any policies that try to reduce carbon emissions are met with criticism by people not wanting to change their own behavior.
A coalition of the Green party and two others currently governs the country. The two bigger of those lost a lot of votes, the small one (that's arguably the biggest issue for governing and publicity) didn't.
The green party had a huge success and increase in voters three years ago. But the way it went, the public communication and issues between the three parties, the inflation, and other energy cost increases presumably lead to voters now choosing to vote against them.
The central-right that governed for many years before received most votes. The far right, under institutional observation because of its danger to the constition/opposition to the constitution, had a big increase in voters too. Especially in the eastern states (previously eastern Germany) - traditionally more right-leaning.
Its amazing what happens when your erstwhile left-leaning parties spend more time playing footsie with billionaires then actually solving problems for regular people.
The political left has gotten too cosy with neoliberalism, and forgotten their roots, ceding kitchen-table issues to the right-wing.
Which is insane, because the right doesn't care about the poor except as grist for the mill, they're just better at faking empathy, or at least milking victimization
Definitely agree. Maybe you could argue that you'd just need to cut out former East Germany to make the post accurate, but even overall, germanys far right is definitely strong.
