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MedicPigBabySaver ,
@MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world avatar

Fried bologna, fried Spam, fried humans... meh, all the same. Good luck everyone.

cordlesslamp ,

https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/eee1bb5c-11f2-4ad8-873c-ae7b8a0a3a02.jpeg

CaptKoala ,

Actually for those of us in the southern hemisphere it's more like twice a year, we see it when northern hemispherians post, and also post it ourselves 😂

1rre ,

Already too hot 😶🔫

doingthestuff ,

Doubt. This doesn't take weather into account. There are always cold spots even in hot years. Plus, even in warming cycles you still set years that are a little below average. My area was below average in 2023. It's just weather cycles but we need to communicate climate reality more accurately.

Maggoty ,

As of the 2022 report the ten hottest years on record for the planet were (in chronological order, not heat) - 2010, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022.

In descending heat level- 2016, 2020, 2019, 2015, 2017, 2022, 2021, 2018, 2014, 2010.

2023 was the hottest year since records began. So it knocked 2010 off the top ten. Making the last ten years the hottest 10 years on record. If you're a visual learner here's a graph -

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/monitoring-content/sotc/global/2023/dec/global-land-ocean-anomalies-202301-202312.png

Ithi ,

They're not wrong though, and your graph supports that. Not sure if you're stating one way or the other because this is just evidence which is often good.

I saw the other comment where you linked to this one that seems to imply they are wrong and a bunch of people are down voting for some reason too.

Some years will still be colder than the previous and specific regions will be warm/colder year over year as well.

Averages of course only show signs of going up. Hope we somehow remedy that but the outlook of course does not look good.

Maggoty ,

Weather is often used to argue that climate change isn't real. This directly refutes that. And honestly who cares if 2025 is slightly colder than 2024 if it's still landing in the top ten every year? At that point it's just a technicality. It is getting hotter and a slight reprieve in the rate of increase isn't going to change that.

Ithi ,

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Both myself and that other person in this comment chain pretty much said things that agree with you. Think that other commenter was saying the same as well.

I was pointing out that it didn't really make sense they were getting down voted for making the distinction climate != weather while still noting that yes, the climate is slowly getting hotter and we aren't doing enough to fix it.

"It's just weather cycles but we need to communicate climate reality more accurately."

StaySquared ,

Isn't it interesting? We have the technology to make clouds appear and start raining between seeding and that cool cloud making technology that NASA has. Yet we refuse to use it in states where droughts exists for example. Why not use it when we a heatwave coming? Clouding the skies would help lower the temps.

SkybreakerEngineer ,

Because it barely exists, doesn't scale well, requires moisture to already be there, and has harmful side effects?

skysurfer ,

Not sure if the /s was left off or this was a serious question.

In the case it was a serious question, the first issue that comes to mind is when you seed clouds for one region, what happens to the next region downwind where the clouds would have rained without intervention? You are just moving the drought, there will still be a difference in the rain pattern somewhere.

Seeding to generate more cloud cover at a global scale introduces a whole host of problems. Firstly, you lower the solar output which then means solar power generation will be less effective. That energy will need to be produced by some means, which right now fossil fuels would be the most likely to take up the deficit, increasing atmospheric carbon output. Then to compound problems further, the reduced solar radiation reaching the surface would have a number of impacts such as plant growth being slowed reducing their CO2 uptake, less moisture being evaporated for precipitation over land masses, wind patterns being changed, and wind speeds reduced which means even further reduction in renewable energy generation. So with today's technology seeding clouds would end up compounding the issues in the long term and accelerate the already alarming changes.

Maggoty ,

Obviously the answer is to put solar panels into low orbit and have them provide power and shade. Then because we need food we'll do orbital farms. And that means maintenance people so we better have orbital habitats too. And since it'll probably be a crap job with a low quality of life we'll need to conscript people...

Oh and it will be horribly expensive so we better get a billionaire or two on board. And when they suggest loaning workers the money to get and live there until they can work it off, it's totally not indentured servitude.

qyron ,

I understand the joke but let's be honest an admit we do not know.

Hottest summer in my life was in 2007, being so hot and humid it felt like breathing inside a sauna.

I can objectively see weather patterns changing, which implies the underlying climate is changing as a whole, but objectively speaking, up until now, 2024 has been a proper year, with real seasons, rain, cold and snow where it belongs.

So, I call this on the over estimate.

Feathercrown ,

objectively speaking

Somehow I doubt you're using data to come to this conclusion

stabby_cicada OP ,

He feels he's using objective logic and data. And feelings don't care about your facts.

qyron ,

Nice one. You managed to use a non sequitur, a personal note, attached to a sentence where a concrete statement is made, to undermine my comment.

Isn't that what is called a red herring?

stabby_cicada OP ,

Your "concrete statement" was false. 2024 is not a "proper year" - it is in fact on track to be the hottest ever. Again.

I no longer have the patience to debate blatant climate falsehoods seriously. If you want respectful responses to your comments, respect your audience and don't make objectively false claims.

qyron ,

I wasn't aware we are at a show. Audience? Where?

But let's end this exchange while we're on a good note and let's agree none of us denies climate change, which I haven't.

qyron ,

And somehow I doubt we share the same understanding of the expression being used and have the same view over the use of sarcasm when conducting polite conversation.

Maggoty ,

Here you go, you need to see this comment too.

qyron ,

Sadly for me, my app doesn't parse me through cross linked comments. But I appreciate the effort.

callouscomic ,

This meme was used wrong. The second panel is wrong. It'd be funnier as simply "The hottest summer of your life so far." Like the movies actual quote.

Also, it's likely wrong. Many past summers were likely colder in our lives.

ZoopZeZoop ,

If we're being technical, it coldest summer of the rest of your life. So, it's not including their history of summers.

xor ,

somehow i commented the same thing without reading yours...
oh well, it deserves corrected twice

ZoopZeZoop ,

Pity for the 3rd person who corrects them, then. 😄

Jimmyeatsausage ,

Even that's not technically accurate. That's the kind of thinking that makes people think a snowball means the climate isn't changing. We'll still have some summers that are marginally cooler than some previous summer, but the average over time is gonna keep going up.

ZoopZeZoop ,

Well, yes, but I wasn't fact checking, just pointing out the correct interpretation based on the wording in the sentence that the person to whom I replied had misinterpreted.

xor ,

Also, it's likely wrong. Many past summers were likely colder in our lives.

it says coldest in the rest the of your life...
meaning of the future, just in case english isn't your first language....

MummifiedClient5000 ,

There's always hoping for a nuclear winter.

Neato ,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

Fun fact: it's not summer. Summer starts in 43 days on June 20th.

And the hottest day of the year is usually anywhere from mid-July to late August. We're just getting started!

mynachmadarch ,

So still time for me to buy a cave and hibernate the summer away. Perfect.

ZoopZeZoop ,

Room for one more?

sangriaferret ,

It's the beginning of May and it's already broken 90° in Louisiana.

(That's over 32°c for non yanks)

IndiBrony ,
@IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for the translation...

...and is that a humid heat or a dry heat?

Thunderbird4 ,

Louisiana? Extremely humid

IndiBrony ,
@IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, just needed clarification between "that's pretty hot" and "holy fuck balls".

As a Brit who also suffers humid summers: I feel for OP.

Thunderbird4 ,

Yeah, Coastal Louisiana is just on the “subtropical” side of “tropical.”

My weather station in central Texas shows an air temperature of 90F (32C) today with a heat index around 114F (45C) due to the high humidity.

sangriaferret ,

Holy fuck balls.

sangriaferret ,

The forecast for tonight says 79% humidity and that's with no chance of rain.

TheOctonaut ,

Fun fact! While there is a meteorological standard, in day to day usage the seasons are culturally defined.

In Ireland for example, it's been summer since May 1st.

https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2022/0428/1046589-bealtaine-summer-ireland/

Other places also define seasons differently or indeed have completely different seasons, eg the wet season, hot season, cool season in Thailand.

usualsuspect191 ,

My personal definition for my region is based on freezing temps: never gets below freezing? That's summer. Gets consistently above freezing in the day but still often below at night? Spring/fall. Essentially never gets above freezing? Winter.

Winter starts here early to mid November, it's silly to think it doesn't until Dec 21st. Same with summer being in full swing long before the third week of June.

AquaTofana ,

I wish I lived where you live. That sounds fucking awesome.

usualsuspect191 ,

Having distinct seasons is nice I'll agree, although it can be extreme sometimes (over an 80°C temp swing between the end of Feb and end of June a couple of years ago).

Winter grows on me more every year, although the last few years have seen a trend where we get more random melting periods in the middle of winter and way less snow which kinda sucks for all the winter fun.

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