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Blaze ,
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Alright so @PugJesus@lemmy.world avatar PugJesus @The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar The_Picard_Maneuver , after this post explaining the context (https://lemmy.ca/post/37650900 ), what do we want to do? Go back to the midwest.social one or keep posting on the dbzer0?

PugJesus OP ,
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I'm going to continue posting on dbzer0, personally. If it was just the matter of a mistake or a bad take, that would be one thing, but the admin's behavior clearly indicates an attitude of hostility in his behavior as an admin towards people he considers 'libs', which, likewise, appears to be a very broadly applied label.

The admin has every right to trim his community in such a fashion but that necessarily means that some people will not feel welcome. The Fediverse means an individual can choose communities on an instance where they feel welcome, or at least where they don't feel like the sword of Damocles is hanging above their head. For me, that's not Midwest.social at this point.

Blaze ,
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Sounds good, I'll keep posting with you guys.

@imaqtpie and @Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca avatar Zoidsberg FYI

The_Picard_Maneuver ,
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I agree with what the commenters are saying in that thread about it being a shame for a big community to lose activity, but with regards to the original issue and the other screenshot you linked to, it seems like an admin temperament issue rather than an isolated incident. It's hard to build a community when users have to be worried about an admin lashing out at them after a bad day, and I think trust needs to be earned back before I would want to contribute there again.

Blaze ,
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@dh3lix@lemmy.world avatar dh3lix FYI

Blaze ,
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@Godric@lemmy.world avatar Godric FYI

Blaze ,
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genfood ,
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I don’t get it?

Blaze ,
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The key takeaway is that Picard_Maneuver, PugJesus, others and myself now try to post to lotrmemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com icon Lord Of The Rings Memes rather than the midwest.social version due to some powertripping on the admin.

You can have a look at other comments for details.

Blaze ,
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Hello @Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net avatar Track_Shovel , you might want to have a look at this post

Track_Shovel ,
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Was I reposting their stuff? I can't keep track of my memes.

Blaze ,
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No, the key takeaway is that Picard_Maneuver, PugJesus, others and myself now try to post to lotrmemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com icon Lord Of The Rings Memes rather than the midwest.social version due to some powertripping on the admin.

You can have a look at other comments for details.

Blaze ,
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Blaze ,
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FYI Dav09

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negativenull ,
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Oh nice! I didn't know this one existed!

Blaze ,
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Happy to help!

As you can see in a comment below (https://lemmy.world/comment/13918137), most of the posters now prefer the dbzer0 one compared to midwest.social

negativenull ,
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Thanks for the background there. I've subbed to this new LOTR community!

Blaze ,
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MelodiousFunk ,
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Thanks for the heads up. I don't have any personal beef with the instance but it's good info.

Blaze ,
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You're welcome!

Blaze ,
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@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar ekZepp FYI

OpenStars ,
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Noice! I can't see any of the posts except one from today, though now that I've subscribed at Discuss.Online others should be able to see it there too.

A....nd now there's 5 posts and 8 subscribers there from DO, wow it's growing quickly, keep up the excellent work!:-D

Blaze ,
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If you want you can search for the post URLs in the search bar, that should fetch them

OpenStars ,
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Ah, even the older ones? Nice!:-)

Except it looks like it won't ever retrieve the comments for them, boo:-(. e.g. I was going to respond to a comment by egrets@lemmy.world with how "no man can defeat me" for their #1 list item, but I cannot (with a DO account) b/c there are no comments federated from https://discuss.online/post/14197685.

Though at least posts are coming in, now that I've subscribed to it.

Blaze ,
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You can fetch comments too using the search bar

OpenStars ,
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Oh wow thank you. I have definitely tried that before and it failed, but probably there are certain conditions that needed to have been met first, like perhaps the post must already be there and/or the community already have started federating. So this feature definitely would have fallen between the cracks of knowledge for me if you hadn't said so.:-)

Blaze ,
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The_Picard_Maneuver ,
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Thanks for tagging me. This is a little upsetting. =(

Blaze ,
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The new one looks promising!

The_Picard_Maneuver ,
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Yeah, I like PugJesus and have full confidence.

PugJesus OP ,
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and have full confidence.

I live to disappoint!

threelonmusketeers ,

Have you reached out to @Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca avatar Zoidsberg , the active mod of lotrmemes@midwest.social icon Lord of the memes , for their thoughts?

If they are on board, it would be great if we could make the community migration semi-official.

From past experience, the most effective way to migrate users seems to be to lock the old community and leave a pinned post redirecting users to the new community.

A few of us recently consolidated the electric vehicles communities this way, and I know Blaze has had similar successes.

PugJesus OP ,
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I dunno, it's like, the instance admin has the right to trim the instance in a manner that cultivates the community they want to see. I'm legitimately not looking to start drama. I just don't want to post on the midwest.social lotrmemes sub now. That's the great thing about the Fediverse, decentralization and such.

If they want to make the migration, not only is that cool, that is amazing and not only will I happily mod the other comm's mods, but step down from modding myself because honestly I mod too many communities as it is. But I'm not looking to make a case for abandoning the other lotrmemes sub, and I imagine most people will not have much interest in admin drama.

Blaze ,
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It's up to you.

Anyway, if TPM stops posting on the old one and focuses on the new one, that should be enough to bring people over

Zoidsberg ,
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I'm incredibly confused about what happened and what I should be doing.

Blaze ,
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The admin of the midwest.social banned someone for what seems like a strange reason, behaviour which is usually qualified as "power tripping". People usually dislike that behaviour, and consider avoiding such instances, which is why PugJesus created the new community: lotrmemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com icon Lord Of The Rings Memes

Another example:

In terms of actions you can consider doing

  • create a meta post on the current community to explain the situation to the members
  • become a mod on the new community
  • lock the community on midwest.social with a post to the new community (exemple: https://lemmy.world/c/casualconversation)
Blaze ,
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Hello @Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca avatar Zoidsberg ,

It has been a month now, and lotrmemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com icon Lord Of The Rings Memes is now more active than lotrmemes@midwest.social icon Lord of the memes (2.94K users / month vs 2.51K users / month).

Would you consider creating a meta post to explain the situation to the community, suggesting them to move to the new community?

You can probably also become a mod there, I guess @PugJesus@lemmy.world avatar PugJesus wouldn't mind.

PugJesus OP ,
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I'd love to give up modding the community entirely. Not because it's a huge burden, but because I already mod too many communities as-is.

Blaze ,
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Even better. Maybe you can create a meta post to call for mods?

Blaze ,
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Nice!

tobogganablaze ,

Why do we need another one?

Blaze ,
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infeeeee ,

What was the problem with lotrmemes@midwest.social icon Lord of the memes ?

Blaze ,
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OpenStars ,
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Also this older one too - https://lemmy.world/post/18414833 - i.e. this is a repeated pattern of behavior, not just a series of isolated incidents.