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Fuck ads at the gas pump

Idk if this is the right instance for this, but how fucking tired of these forced ads at gas pumps is everyone else?

I'm paying 4 bucks a gallon to have you shove advertising down my throat like an erect cock?

What the actual fuck

Anyone have any good ad blocking practices for this?

I've seen duct or painters tape covering the speakers...

You can press a button next to the screen to mute it, but this doesn't work at all gas stations. (Usually its the 2nd from the top on the right side)

I guess its just time to gettoblast music every time I pump gas like back when I was 19....

Addition1291 ,

Why do companies even buy ads in this space? There's so many spots in our society where ads are just being injected to play for nobody. At what point do they figure out that it's not worth the return on investment to put ads in those spots?

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

It is pennies for them

Chiro ,

They don’t have to work, you just have to convince people they do.

  1. Sell the gas station operator on increased revenue (whether they ever see increased revenue from it or not is irrelevant — I would assume they are unlikely to stop once they have ad pumps in). They might not opt for ad pumps next time, but that’s a problem for future you.
  2. Sell businesses on thousands of people staring at these pumps every day.
  3. All parties are now invested in this ecosystem, and it’ll be a while before they determine whether or not it’s worth the money — or even having an effect.
zaph ,
@zaph@sh.itjust.works avatar

Anyone have any good ad blocking practices for this?

Don't buy gas from places that do this. Hasn't failed me yet and if more people did it maybe they'll stop.

Blum0108 ,

They'd just blame millennials for ruining buying gas and double down on the ads.

BearOfaTime ,

More that I don't know of a single gas station without ads

fsxylo ,

Yup. The "free" market says that if everyone does the same shit, you have no choice, and they still make more money.

intensely_human ,

If a company’s being smart, deviating from the universal enshittification will earn them market share.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

They will get the market share of us few weirdos who haven't just accepted this shit. They will lose out on advertising revenue, have to charge more for gas, and will go out of business.

BearOfaTime ,

And that ad revenue is probably significant. While consumers of commodities don't really have much selection.

Dramaking37 ,

As you are able I'd highly recommend going electric. Then you don't even have to go to gas stations. If you're able to charge at home (which I'm aware many are not) it's even better because anytime you leave the house you can have a full tank.

intensely_human ,

I have an electric car and the result is a loss of 20% of my income in the form of time spent twiddling my thumbs while the thinks slowly accumulates charge.

xionzui ,

What job do you do where you can only charge it during work hours, yet the 30 minutes it takes to charge account for 20% of that work time?

Dramaking37 ,

A made up job!

Blum0108 ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2222d385-d8ff-4d6e-aec0-019a89249fd9.gif

Vanth ,
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    uberdroog ,
    @uberdroog@lemmy.world avatar

    I am pretty sure this already happened to me. Had to wait before prompted to enter payment. :(

    Frozengyro ,

    The one thing that would push people to electric. At least then you can charge at home and avoid gas stations.

    Steve ,

    Discounted electric rates on your ad-supported charging plug…

    helenslunch ,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    Already a thing

    Steve ,

    Fucking hell

    refurbishedrefurbisher ,

    Don't worry; they'll just start playing ads in the car itself before you are able to shift gears to drive.

    Rolando ,

    One time I put in my card, but the pump couldn't show me an ad because it crashed. My card was stuck in the pump. The guys inside tried resetting the pump but that didn't work, so they said it'd be a week before someone came around to fix it. I had to cancel the card and get a new number. All because I couldn't watch the ads.

    pdxfed ,

    I hope you paid them for the lost ad revenue you caused them to suffer.

    4am ,

    I’ve never seen a pump that took a card inside it like an ATM; did you mean the transaction was stuck or the physical card?

    colforge ,

    I’ve been to many a pump that instructs you to insert and leave your card, then ‘latches’ onto the card once you’ve inserted it, locking it into place until the authorization for the transaction is complete. I’ve seen them in Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, and Louisiana.

    refurbishedrefurbisher ,

    I've seen a lot of those. The card gets physically stuck until the machine decides that the payment is completed.

    Baku ,

    I've never seen one in Australia. We don't really prepay for petrol here. Some servos in the dodgiest suburbs do make you between certain hours, but I've never seen one that makes everybody always prepay or one that actually takes your card. Most of the time you'd go inside to prepay anyways, but on the few pumps I've seen that do have card payments on the physical pump it's either tap or swipe, no insert, and no holding cards hostage

    Quexotic ,

    Pliers woulda worked (from experience).
    I always keep a pair handy for this and other more practical reasons.

    Steve ,

    Stahp

    TheOneAndOnly ,

    Shhhh! Don't give them fucking ideas!

    Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
    @Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

    And then once enough people buy the premium membership they'll start putting ads on those, too.

    SirEDCaLot ,

    Opt out entirely. Get an electric car. Your gas pump is your garage and you start every day with a full tank.

    Ginger666 OP ,

    If only I had 80 grand lying around for a tesla...

    SPRUNT ,

    Tesla is a shit EV. There are other options. I've seen more and more Rivian's in my area lately.

    SirEDCaLot ,

    Wtf 80 grand I dont have that either.

    Model 3 and Y are like $35-50k or go used for less.

    ornery_chemist ,

    Mr. fancypants with a garage over there. Meanwhile, ain't no public chargers for miles around here.

    krolden ,
    @krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

    If theres snow on the ground you should take a handful of it and stuff it in the speaker hole. Works great. Or take some hand sanitizer and squirt it in there.

    the_third ,

    How about a relatively liquid glue injected into the speaker housing? That should solve that permanently.

    krolden ,
    @krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

    Or sound completely terrible forever.

    boatsnhos931 ,

    It's a good time to clean your windshield, check your oil/coolant levels, tire pressure and throw any trash away.. do you really stare at the pump like a n00bz?!

    Ginger666 OP ,

    Oh you're getting raped?

    Why don't you go over your taxes in your head? Don't forget those deductions!

    You can always recite pemdas in your head, or other acronyms, roygbiv, count backwards from 100...

    All in all, if you are getting raped, don't fight back! Just lay there and take it like a good sheeple

    boatsnhos931 ,

    You can't rape the willing.. But if you are dumb enough to return over and over maybe you lack the mental capacity for consent altogether..is there only one gas station you can go to? Are you like a moth that goes towards the light? You know, I can help you get a discounted bus pass for your condition. It seems like it might be the best thing for you ❤️

    Ginger666 OP ,

    Tell that to my ex...

    She was willing but I still raped the hell outta her

    Gotta love people that think the way they live is how everyone else on this planet lives.....

    boatsnhos931 ,

    I'm sorry my mom told me not to talk to rapists/retards

    schwim ,
    @schwim@lemm.ee avatar

    I sit in my car.

    Zink ,

    You aren’t supposed to do that, assuming you’re the one pumping gas. Gas stations are a bad place to generate static electricity, lol.

    schwim ,
    @schwim@lemm.ee avatar

    I forgot about the epidemic of gas station explosions due to people sitting in their cars.

    hardaysknight ,

    I mean, it does happen.

    schwim ,
    @schwim@lemm.ee avatar

    If it is of concern for you, you're going to lose your shit when you find out the risks involved when you actually drive your car.

    hardaysknight ,

    I mitigate risks when it’s reasonable. Not getting in my car while pumping gas is an easy step to take in order to mitigate a risk. Like buckling my seatbelt.

    schwim ,
    @schwim@lemm.ee avatar

    Can you perhaps share some statistics of explosions caused by getting in a car? No? How about an article of someone blown to smithereens by getting in there car? Not that either?

    What you're feeling better about is the theater of inferred safe practices. The fact that in spite of driving being the top cause of accidental death, you're ok with but although there is no factual info backing up your fear of getting into your car should give you pause.

    hardaysknight ,

    Wait do you deny these even happen? Are you serious right now? There’s multiple videos and articles. Like this one:

    https://youtu.be/T6VKxmUPb3g?si=R0-ovPwC4TRlXgBh

    schwim , (edited )
    @schwim@lemm.ee avatar

    Not that it didn't happen, just that they are so rare, you had to find a 4 pixel video of one and are completely unable to provide any statistics due to it's rarity.

    I was going to link a vehicle accident to back up my claim but, well, I had problems picking one from the 6 million that occur annually.

    But you go ahead and worry about the static electricity while fueling so you can hop in your car and hurtle down the road around the oncoming rockets that are infinitely more likely to end your life but you are, for some strange reason, more OK with.

    nomous ,

    "Something else is more dangerous therefore the less dangerous thing doesn't exist." - You

    schwim ,
    @schwim@lemm.ee avatar

    "Stickers tell me when to worry." - You

    nomous ,

    "I ignore clear warnings because I haven't personally experienced the issue so it must not exist." - You

    schwim ,
    @schwim@lemm.ee avatar

    "Fear everything except for the most likely cause of death." - You

    nomous , (edited )

    Alright, have fun being an angry little whatever you are. I have better things to do than warn you about your car burning up, enjoy the rest of your day, keep full coverage on your cars or something. Have a nice one.

    hardaysknight ,

    The he dude is literally the reason we have to have those sticker warnings on everything. I’m gonna say he’s not intelligent enough to even bother arguing with.

    nomous ,

    They put stickers on every pump everywhere warning about static electricity causing fires. Do you think they just put those on there for fun? I bet you're not vaccinated either, idiot.

    schwim ,
    @schwim@lemm.ee avatar

    Luckily there's no sticker on our car about the risks of driving, so we know it's safe.

    You seem angry. Maybe 4 1/2 hours of vehicle crashes will soothe you. Dont worry, they are high-resolution.

    nomous ,

    How do you feel about vaccinations? Is that something you do?

    schwim ,
    @schwim@lemm.ee avatar

    Here's another hour of vehicle accidents for you to calm you down.

    nomous ,

    Yeah I have youtube too I can watch car crashes, not sure what point you think you're making there. Do you wear a seat belt? Do you drink and drive?

    schwim ,
    @schwim@lemm.ee avatar

    Since you're struggling to keep throwing other elements into this discussion in hopes of legitimizing you calling me an idiot over an anonymous comment section that has angered you:

    I'm fully vaccinated because the risk of death without has been proven to be significant.
    I wear a seat belt because the risk of death without has been proven to be significant.
    I don't drink and drive because the risk of death when doing so has proven to be significant.
    I get in my car when fueling because the risk of doing so is so minuscule that there are literally no published statistics regarding the practice.

    You seem to be doubling down on the "I'm having a problem winning this with logic so let's find something else to get this guy on" and super light on any stats, so I'm going to concede you are the winner of this online comment battle(Congrats!). Also, I did find a video showing some static electricity fires so I thought I'd give you that as well. It seems you were right all along.

    nomous ,

    Brother I won the argument when you started typing, I really don't care to engage on this topic anymore, have a nice day.

    schwim ,
    @schwim@lemm.ee avatar

    You keep saying you're done but yet here you are, still engaging.

    I win because I've commented last. Yay, me.

    Dark_Arc ,
    @Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

    There was a whole Mythbusters episode where they tried TONS of stuff to get a gas station to go up in flames (they couldn't, not even smoking a cigarette -- under near ideal conditions for an ignition of nearby vapors -- per my recollection).

    Yeah, I'm sitting in my car, especially if it's cold outside.

    "Static electricity" isn't somehow more of a concern sitting in your car than standing outside one in a fuzzy jacket.

    UmeU ,

    They need some signs, ‘No pumping gas in fuzzy jackets’

    jabathekek ,
    @jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

    What about gasoline fights? Did they account for those?

    NoSpiritAnimal , (edited )
    @NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

    Cool, here's a video of a known static electricity ignition.

    https://youtu.be/T6VKxmUPb3g?si=qmnptZLv2S1RgJvf

    Dark_Arc , (edited )
    @Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

    Hey look... a fuzzy sweater.

    I'm still getting in and out of my car. I get in, shut the door, get back out, and close the door. Plenty of metal touched. Sometimes gloves.

    Here's another one https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JMfxPooeybg

    Probably 1 in 10 million (and 2/2 videos where they didn't shut the car door)... I'll take that chance.

    Edit: also think about it, if this was a real problem with a high enough frequency they'd engineer the fuel handles to prevent it. Heck, maybe they already did (accidentally or intentionally) plenty of them increasingly have a ton of plastic.

    intensely_human ,

    Dude your name is literally Dark_Arc. Just accept that your destiny is dying in a static electricity fire

    NoSpiritAnimal ,
    @NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

    They do engineer the pumps to ground the static charge. That's what can cause the arc.

    You discharge yourself the first time you touch the pump before you fill up.

    Getting back into the car defeats the purpose by then grounding you in the presence of fuel vapors, rather than before.

    Dark_Arc ,
    @Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

    What you're saying doesn't make any sense. If you're engineering something to prevent a spark from a static charge, you engineer it to prevent a spark from a static charge. You don't engineer it to "ground you at first and then fail" if you pick up a static charge for some reason.

    EDIT: And there are a lot more ways to become statically charged than getting in and out of a car (which in a lot of cases isn't going to give you a static charge anyways -- e.g. leather seats on cotton clothes is extremely unlikely to generate a static charge).

    NoSpiritAnimal ,
    @NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes, which is why the recommendation is to keep your hand on the handle while pumping or touch a metal part of your car prior to returning to the pump, and don't get back into a car.

    I have a real life degree in automotive technology and engineering, and you saw a Mythbusters episode.

    We can keep doing this forever if you like, but you're still very poorly informed on how safety is engineered into your vehicle fuel system and the mechanisms that support it.

    Here is some reading to help you, API recommended fuel procedures (if you're not familiar with the API just read any gas pump or bottle of oil until you are):
    https://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas/consumer-information/consumer-resources/staying-safe-pump

    Most important, motorists should not get back into their vehicles during refueling. It may be a temptation to get back in the car for any number of reasons. But the average fill-up takes only two minutes, and staying outside the vehicle will greatly minimize the likelihood of any build-up of static electricity that could be discharged at the nozzle.

    Dark_Arc , (edited )
    @Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

    I have a degree in computer science, I've worked on electrical engineering projects, my father is an electrician, I have a close friend and mentor that's a forensic electrical engineer, etc.

    If y'all in the automotive space think this is a real problem, fix it. It is trivial to shield something from static electricity; TRIVIAL. Frankly it's unacceptable it hasn't been fixed if you're so adamant there's a serious risk to the public.

    This reads to me as an "ass covering" article for a very very very rare event. At 1/10,000,000 estimated probability I'd have to live thousands of lives at the rate I fill up my car to ever see this.

    I'm not going to worry about this more than I'm going to worry about winning the lottery or spontaneous combustion frankly; the probabilities do not warrant concern. Which I'm sure is the real reason nothing has been done here.

    NoSpiritAnimal ,
    @NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

    Citing your dad's job is a wild way to claim expertise.

    Dark_Arc ,
    @Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

    I question your ability as an engineer if you can't understand how to shield something from static electricity. Hint: use non-conducive material to create an isolated ground that never makes contact with the gasoline, they've been doing it for all kinds of sensitive electronics for decades. This technique is also used to prevent your metal kitchen mixer from killing you if there's a short.

    Am I "the expert" in this domain? No. Do I have plenty of exposure to it and other engineering disciplines to make a judgement call on the facts; absolutely.

    NoSpiritAnimal , (edited )
    @NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

    Watch out entire industry that's been operating for more than a century, Dark Arc's dad is an engineer and he has correctly interpreted the facts you can't even seem to grasp.

    Quick, now do perpetual motion! Those simpletons have barely even tried.

    Not that this will mean anything to you, but this feels a lot like when someone says "why don't we just run lean so we save fuel?".

    Dark_Arc ,
    @Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

    🙄

    Thank you for your concern for my safety. I'm not interested.

    My advice to you is, if you're worried about this, never get in a car again.

    JasonDJ ,

    The concern (especially when it's cold since that usually implies dry air) is that a buildup of static energy occurs when your body rubs up against your cars interior.

    This concern is usually a bit bigger for younger folks because they tend to not touch any metal parts of their car when getting up, which would discharge the energy while still a decent distance from the nozzle that's leaking gas vapors.

    marx2k ,

    I used to do that until the pump failed to realize the tank was full and just kept going.

    That's also why there are signs telling you specifically not to do that.

    schwim ,
    @schwim@lemm.ee avatar

    I just watch the filler from the side mirror. When I feel the click of the disengagement, I hop out, give a ground pat to the pump and replace the nozzle.

    marx2k ,

    That's my point. When it fails, there's no click. It just keeps going. Then you're scrambling to stop the pump as it's jizzing fuel all over your car's paint job, the floor, you...

    intensely_human ,

    We should make a law that any process which requires continuous attention for safety reasons cannot be a venue for advertisement.

    interdimensionalmeme ,

    Costco pumps dont have ads. Only fuel there. Set the other gas starion on fire

    Ginger666 OP ,

    Yeah I need to pay a yearly subscription, and wait in line for 30 minutes (wasting gas) in order to pump it. Yeah let's do that

    dan1101 ,
    @dan1101@lemm.ee avatar

    If the mute button doesn't work I just go to other stations next time. Some of the gas stations around here have gotten rid of the ads.

    snooggums ,
    @snooggums@midwest.social avatar

    The ones I frequent have silenced the ads or gotten rid of them altogether.

    Seems like they are still loud and shitty in more rural areas where there is less choice that I've been to in the last couple of years.

    dan1101 ,
    @dan1101@lemm.ee avatar

    I'm assuming least some of the ad revenue would go to the station owner. But I bet it often turns out to be less money than they had expected.

    Ultragigagigantic ,
    @Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

    "People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.

    You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.

    Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.

    You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs."

    – Banksy

    Ultragigagigantic ,
    @Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

    Interested in a Adam Curtis video on the merger of psychology, marketing, and politics?

    interdimensionalmeme ,

    That's why my hobby is firing infrared lasers at soviet early launch warning satellites.

    bigFab ,

    Wow, in Europe we haven't reached that gas station modernization stage yet.

    onlinepersona ,

    Hopefully Europe goes the other way and gets rid of cars before petrol stations modernize. Fuck cars.

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    the_third ,

    Living in the boonies in Germany: Not going to happen. But whenever I'm in a city, the car usually gets stored in a car park for the time I'm there. Way too annoying compared to public transportation.

    onlinepersona ,

    I think that's the political will that's lacking. I've been to remote towns with good public transport. Switzerland even famously has one place where no private cars are allowed and nobody wants them. As the Germans say "Wo ein Wille ist, ist ein Weg".

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    qx128 ,

    Time to get an EV you can charge at home 😎

    Think of this fact the next time people list off all the “downsides” of owning an EV… like never going to the gas station.

    SendMePhotos ,

    Ads in my EV!

    elrik ,

    I haven't pumped gas in 3 years and it's glorious.

    RichieRich ,
    @RichieRich@lemmy.world avatar

    I'm hoping this will never be the practice in Germany! We're using these gas pumps with LC Displays from the 80's so there can't be apps with ads on a screen. Also known as "German Digitization". (A buzz word for modern technology /sarc)

    Please don't tell it to European oil concerns to update their gas pumps. Shhhhh 🤫I want to have it without ads 'til I'm to old to use a gas pump.

    the_third ,

    Buy a modern electric vehicle. You can charge at home on your own plug.

    And then my car started displaying ads for subscription services.

    Okay, I took that personally, documented it and filed a complaint with the KBA as this started to become a security issue, can't have the navmap disappear in the middle of a busy intersection. And then that shit stopped again. And as soon as the car is out of warranty, the USB connection to the data modem gets disconnected. I'm lucky enough that that's still a possibility, but if it weren't, 🤷

    Sgt_choke_n_stroke ,

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/95f21d29-f4d6-4cc1-be0f-692c85743748.webp

    Zerush ,
    @Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

    Strange things are in the US. The only good adblocker which ocurres me for this

    https://file.coffee/u/j5BkjYdqq1ytvpjdXX9Dy.png

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