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Never Again

I bought 5 of these less than two years ago, though they were the 500 GB model. Every single one of them has failed - some within 45 days and just outside the return period. The last one, which I honestly forgot was still running and thought I'd replaced, failed this morning.

These SSDs are absolute garbage and their warranty replacements are a joke (read: you're outta luck, Chuck). Burn me once, shame on you. Burn me 6 times, well, shame one me for buying them again, I guess. lol. I had one fail prior to this batch, but assumed it was an oddball.

Pro tip: Never buy Silicon Power (SP) SSDs. I you have any in use, make sure you have backups running daily and that you check those backups every so often.

Seems like the 3v3 regulator is what goes out on these, but I'm not going to bother trying to repair it since I've got backups.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

I bought a ssd off of eBay and it failed within 90 days. It was very cheap.

Gooey0210 ,

Really weird warranty 45 days, are you sure these are not fake?

I have some of their ssds, and the warranty is 5 years

ptz OP , (edited )
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Oh, the warranty is 5 years. The Amazon return period was 30 days, and they failed outside of that window.

For their warranty claims, they make you jump through a lot of hoops to even get started on an RMA, plus I had to pay shipping. Ultimately, I figured they'd just send another piece of junk, so I cut my losses and bought Samsungs to replace them.

navi ,

Credit cards can protect you here. Some have warranty policies.

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Please leave a review (for these failed drives) for the future rest of us

skittlebrau ,

That makes me feel lucky that Australia’s consumer laws are decent. If that happened here, it’s the customer’s choice whether they want to deal with the manufacturer or the retailer.

Gooey0210 ,

What's the problem then?
I'm living in a country where there is no return period 🫣

Bizarroland ,

Since we are talking about cheap ssds, what do you guys think of netac?

Decronym Bot , (edited )

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
NVMe Non-Volatile Memory Express interface for mass storage
SATA Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage
SSD Solid State Drive mass storage

3 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 10 acronyms.

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Illecors ,
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What is a recommended SSD nowadays? I don't really have a criteria other than avoiding the noise - sata works well enough for me.

ptz OP ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

I've been buying Samsung (both SATA and NVMe), though I'm sure someone will tell me they went to crap too. At least the ones I have are on track to hit the 3 year mark.

For less critical things, I've used PNY pretty successfully (haven't hit 2 years yet, but haven't had any failures either). They're less expensive, and I usually stick to the 120-240 GB ones (basically they're boot drives)

radix ,
@radix@lemmy.world avatar

Samsung did have a major problem early last year, but it seems to be limited to a run of products with a specific firmware.

vintageballs ,

I still have the very first SSD I ever bought, a 120GB Samsung 830 that is well over 10 years old. It is the OS drive in my server and thus running 24/7. No errors yet.

ptz OP ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Lol, yep. I've got a 32 GB Kingston SATA SSD (first one I could afford back in 2014) still going strong 24/7. I think it's either in my router or my HomeAssistant box.

Valmond ,

Splurged some crazy money on a Crucial MX 256GB, 320€ IIRC, I still think about it sometimes but god what an upgrade :-)

After years as my boot device it spent running lots of familys PCs witbout a hiccup, now it's retired as a small extra ssd in a linux box.

I remember there were single cells, double now triple and quadruple, and back in the day single wete considered the best, IDK what's the story today.

cm0002 ,

I have a Samsung 840 (or maybe 860? Idk) 512GB bought back when 512GB was like 500$+ lol

The thing is still trucking along, being moved from system to system as the years go by. I don't even remember what system it is in currently, but I know at some point I'll open up a computer or server around my place and there it'll be again lmao

A poem by ChatGPT lol:
In a corner of the world, where tech giants lay,
A solid state drive, aging, in the fray.
Once young and swift, at data's beck and call,
Now an elder, but dutiful, standing tall.

Through systems it travels, a nomad of sorts,
From desktops to servers, in electronic forts.
Its label worn, its edges frayed,
But in the dance of bytes, it's never swayed.

"I don't remember," the owner chuckles with glee,
"Which system it's in, it's a mystery to me.
But sure as the sun rises, and the moon takes its leave,
I'll find it again, in that, I believe."

It's seen the rise of clouds, and the fall of disks,
Survived the digital tumults, with its own little risks.
Yet here it remains, a silent witness to all,
A testament to duty, refusing to fall.

For in its circuits, a heart beats on,
A steadfast guardian, from dusk till dawn.
From system to system, it wearily sighs,
Yet embraces its role, under digital skies.

So here's to the drive, with its storied past,
A relic of tech, that continues to last.
May it find its rest, in a worthy machine,
A dutiful servant, unseen but serene.

Illecors ,
@Illecors@lemmy.cafe avatar

This is ridiculously good :D

keyez ,

I have Samsung and crucial ssds across 3 systems and only 1 Samsung has failed after 3 years of almost 24hour uptime across those 3 years.

SharkAttak ,
@SharkAttak@kbin.social avatar

If your only criteria is noise, even the shittiest 1TB-10$ SSD from Aliexpress will do, except when it eventually explodes.

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Bonus: use the machine with the $10 drive at your desk, so when it flashbangs you, it will jolt you awake and get that blood pumping. Like a sudden exercise routine! 13 out of 9 cardiologists recommend it!

k4j8 ,

I've seen a lot of people recommending Teamgroup. They tend to be cheaper than Samsung but with supposedly better quality than other cheap options. I haven't looked up any studies yet though.

wreckedcarzz , (edited )
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

All my machines use WD nvme/sata, with a laptop running ADATA nvme. The only ssd I've had fail was at the very very bleeding edge of ssd availability ("sale" of ~$100 for 30GB) with a Kingston drive, unknown flash mfg. Oldest (other than the Kingston) is when I installed (family member's box) a Samsung sata drive (830? 840?) that's been a trooper for the last... 11 years? No issues otherwise.

Oh, the original ssd (unknown brand) that came in that laptop, which I immediately cloned to+replaced with the ADATA, I stuck in my nas last year. It lasted less than 6 months, with no prior writes and the only reads being the clone, until the nas. Also I got warnings less than 6h before total failure. It was working as a cache drive. Replaced with WD Red nvme drives (2 vs the 1) and those are working fine. Pissed me off, that laptop msrp at... $2700? I bought at $1400 + nvme and ram. For them to want such a fucking nutty upcharge and then use a no-name nvme that dies with moderate use (plex system mostly, couple users) is bullshit. Not surprising, it's came out of an Acer Predator, but fuck.

E: oh and that little pos decided to die when I was on vacation at a convention, so scrambling to get to a laptop and tell the nas to stop using the failing/failed drive, worried about the data, was a panic detour that I did not need...

Appoxo ,

Either Samsung or crucial for me. Had a SanDisk that died on me.

EvilLootbox ,
@EvilLootbox@lemmy.world avatar

I've had failures with Patriot and Kingston but all 4 Samsungs I've since put in various PCs have been reliable

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

RAID1

AtariDump ,

Who makes that brand? Proctor and Gamble?

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Can't be Gamble since it's trying to reduce losses, not incur them. 🤭

Cyber ,

RAID10

AtariDump ,

Samsung SSD/NVME.

They eventually die, but it’s later than sooner.

xinayder ,

My issues with Samsung nowadays is that they offer a very low TBW warranty compared to other brands like Kingston.

I wanted to buy a 1TB storage for my games and I couldn't decide between Samsung and Kingston. Samsung had a 600TBW warranty for the 1TB model, Kingston had 800. I ended up choosing the KC3000 from Kingston.

Betch ,
@Betch@lemmy.world avatar

I almost bought an SP NVMe SSD yesterday for a client who insisted on saving every penny possible but went with another cheap brand because I saw a lot of reports of failures with the NVMe ones as well. Now I'm hoping the other cheap option that was available won't suffer the same fate.

AtariDump ,

Buy cheap, buy twice.

Buy once, cry once.

Betch ,
@Betch@lemmy.world avatar

Oh I am very aware of that but this guy doesn't seem to be. He came to me with his daughters school laptop because he had purchased an external harddrive so she could put The Sims 4 on it. They were having issues installing the game on it.

He bought a 40$ 2TB external harddrive that was fake and kept crashing when you tried to access it. At least I managed to get him to spend a bit more on upgrading the SSD instead of having his daughter suffer through loading games from a shitty USB HDD.

infeeeee ,

Afaik there are actually 4 flash memory manufacturers in the World, when you by an SSD the chips were manufactured by one of these companies:

  • Flash Forward (Owned by or related to: Kioxia, Sandisk, WD, Dell, Seagate, Kingston)
  • Micron (Crucial)
  • Samsung
  • SK Hynix

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_solid-state_drive_manufacturers

ptz OP ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Best I can tell, the actual flash memory chips are fine. It's the support circuitry around them that seems to be failing.

That said, the data could probably be recovered if I was so inclined and wanted to spend time/money on it. I have backups, so I'm content never buying or looking at one of these pieces of junk ever again haha

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Related, but am I correct that only 3 companies make platter drives? WD, Toshiba, and Seagate? Been idly looking for new drives (no rush/issue) for my nas and that's what I found.

infeeeee ,

Yes, that's true. Illusion of choice, anti monopoly laws are working as expected.

AtariDump ,

I miss Maxtor. And Hitachi. And Segate with a 5 year warranty. And Samsung. And Fujitsu. And HGST.

Know what, I’ll just leave this here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_hard_disk_manufacturers

SynonymousStoat ,

Yep, I've had two die on me, both within a year of purchase, for no real reason whatsoever. I'm never buying that brand again.

blotz ,
@blotz@lemmy.world avatar

Might even say they ran like A55

victorz ,

They're almost not even low key admitting it...

colourlesspony ,

Oh, damn I have one of these in one of my systems. I'm going to have to find it now and replace it. :(

ptz OP , (edited )
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

At least make sure you have good backups and definitely plan for it to fail (if you can't replace it immediately). These seem to be "when" they fail rather than "if". Of the 6 I had fail, only one gave any warning signs; the rest just disappeared from the bus and never came back.

This is the only brand of SSD where I've experienced a 100% failure rate (I rate my drives over 3-5 year spans). Lol, for comparison, I've got a Kingston one from 2014 and an Intel one from 2015; both are still kicking and in daily use.

wreckedcarzz ,
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Better to know and it be an inconvenience than unaware until it dies and is a (potential) nightmare

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