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werefreeatlast ,

I also hate having to login every 10 minutes to another windows password shit because hey it's secure!

nac82 ,

He's an idiot. You don't have to sign in to windows 11 to set it up, I literally do this daily. Not to mention corporate computers shouldn't be seeing the personal computer sign in screen to begin with unless it's in the hands of IT like me who would know what to do with it.

There used to be a skip button until about a month ago. Now, you just have to input bad creds and move forward.

Unlike Twitter, which actually locks down most of its site without an account...

Idiot just doesn't like getting called out for his idiocy and hypocrisy.

General_Shenanigans ,

Oh, there’s no way Elon wants a machine with a company image on it.

He probably bought a Win11 S-mode laptop, not knowing what that was.

Pantherina ,

This shithead posts the stupidest shit and people make it viral.

I understand how people are fucked up about that

ctobrien84 ,

You don't have to. It isn't required. I setup end points everyday with local users.

AChiTenshi ,

For the general consumer Microsoft is making it as hidden as possible to make a local user during installation.

When I had to reinstall windows a month or two ago the option to make a local machine user was not there until I unplugged the ethernet or brought up a terminal to force the installer to show the option.

IHawkMike ,

To be fair, for the average consumer there are huge advantages to using a MSA.

Both Windows Hello and OneDrive bring both security and convenience to non-technical people in a big way.

There is no good reason the average non-techie user should be using a local Windows account in a cloud world.

mihies ,

Even if it is so, giving a clear and easy option to opt for local account instead, would be the right way.

Adderbox76 ,

There's plenty of reason, especially looking at what's been happening in the last year.

I PAID for that computer (presumably with a hard drive) so why should I have to agree to my data being stored in someone elses server to be used to train the AI that will eventually land microsoft support services workers on the unemployment line?

Step one: I buy a computer.

Step two: Computer manufacture pays MS a licensing fee.

Step three: MS takes all of our data and trains their AI, which they can then monetize for use by other companies, making even more money.

Step four: Microsoft's AI replaces basic Frontline workers (tech support, help lines, bug tickets, etc...) saving even MORE money.

Why in the actual hell would I contribute to that?

IHawkMike ,

So you classify yourself as an average consumer or a non-techie when it comes to computers?

Adderbox76 ,

I generally consider myself half-way between the two, leaning more towards techie than normal consumer. I use Linux, I know how a computer works and what all the hardware does. But I don't program (except for easy stuff like lua), I don't build Linux from scratch or compile source code, etc... etc... etc...

I just want a computer that works, and a computer that, if I unplug my internet, I can still log on and use my word processor, or drawing application, etc...

butter ,

Business class is a different license. Likely enterprise or volume.

It requires some registry or command line crap to deal with it on consumer grade Windows.

SaltySalamander ,
@SaltySalamander@kbin.social avatar

Command line crap? yes. Registry crap? No.

PeterPoopshit ,

Oh shit now Elon is going to try to buy all of Linux.

Psaldorn ,
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Wait until he uses Geforce Experience.. oh boy. Every time it makes me log in AND THEN VERIFY MY EMAIL.

BombOmOm ,
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Luckily AMD cards (and their control software) don't have this requirement.

SaltySalamander ,
@SaltySalamander@kbin.social avatar

I legit haven't used GFE since they began requiring a login to use it.

empireOfLove2 ,
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The more funny part of this statement is he's too fucking dumb to Google "set up windows 11 without Microsoft account" and follow exactly 3 steps to bypass the OOBE wizard.

Diotima ,
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To be fair, the option is pretty easy to miss for someone who isn't technical. Font size -11000 and grwy or whatever, though I might exaggerate.

conciselyverbose ,

They break whatever process people use whenever they feel like it.

Whether the loopholes are incompetence or just for the sake of them being able to claim "you don't need an account", they definitely aren't stable and consistent options. And it's pretty clear that at some point they're going to cross the line and just make you have an account.

ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

What? Ctrl+F10 for Command Prompt and then oobe\bypassnro has always worked, and I don't see Microsoft removing it anytime soon. Who do you think put the bypassnro.bat script in the OOBE directory on every Windows installation media?

db2 ,

I'm going to log in with a burner Microsoft account on unactivated Windows 11 to spite both assholes.

pizza_the_hutt ,

You don't even need a Microsoft account. You can get around it with by using Rufus to create the Windows 11 installer.

MowFord ,

You can get around it by disconnecting the Internet during setup

shalafi ,

Used to work, not now.

SHIFT+F10

cd OOBE

bypassnro

Reboot.

NocturnalMorning , (edited )

I had to figure out the command to bring up the command console to not log in with a Microsoft account. It was super dumb. I had to turn something off in the system as a workaround, which meant a bunch of googling.

There is zero reason for me to have a Microsoft account associated with my computer just to use it.

Edit: This was on setup of the pc. Don't remember the commands, but should be easy to find on google.

RanchOnPancakes ,
@RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world avatar

No. Its pretty easy to work around. He just went right to twit to be a special baby boy.

Nommer ,

He only cares because it's annoying to him. He doesn't give a rats ass otherwise.

jtk ,
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He's probably setting up to suggest Microsoft be required to support SSO so people can log in with twitter.

stackPeek ,
@stackPeek@lemmy.world avatar

Peak journalism

Jayb151 ,

You could just put in a made up email and pass. I personally go with 123@fake.com

Cyyy ,

and at the same time he only lets you use twitter with an account and killed thirdparty apps on mobile.

KingThrillgore ,
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Can't believe I have to agree with this asshole for once.

Also, can't you just use pGina or GPO in place of a Microsoft account?

oakey66 ,

But then how is Microsoft going to subscription service us to death?

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