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lipilee ,

while i'm obviously sure it's a bluff, pulling out instead of selling would be the clearest admittance that tiktok is (or at that point: was) not about the profit, but about Chinese influence in the US. the message being "we rather leave a hudred billion dollars on the table than give away our surveillance technology to some US company."

but yeah, they will def. sell if they need to.

cyd ,

There are valid commercial reasons not to go through a forced sale with a ticking time limit, which will inevitably carry a steeply discounted price. Rather than getting robbed, it makes sense to hang on to the company and take profits from the rest of the world.

Aux ,

It's more like their US profits are no match for their Chinese profits. Social media use in China and other Asian countries dwarfs US use.

Treczoks ,

Could they please pull from Europe, too?

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Okay bye Felicia

ghostblackout ,

Good 1 less spyware app

skymtf ,
@skymtf@pricefield.org avatar

I think this is a good move honestly, they want it to be an algo similar to meta which you know is terrible, meta is like mostly dudes saying gen Z men are AWAKE and hate LGBT people and tate clips. They seem to have much less success in the algorithm on tiktok

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

If the Chinese government is behind this, it's a great play. Having Joe Biden be "the guy who banned tik tok" would severely undermine his election chances.

TheEighthDoctor ,

14 year olds don't vote

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

14 year olds aren't the only people who use Tik Tok

RedAggroBest ,

Lemmy really seems to generally think that TikTok isn't massively overall popular. Lemmy would have someone thinking it's a niche app only being used by teenagers.

Gluten6970 ,
Jimmyeatsausage ,

Guess we'll find out whether TikTok or reproductive freedom is more important...

AbackDeckWARLORD ,

TikTok or reproductive freedom

Both of those bans have happened during the Biden administration

Liz ,

Yes, we all know Biden was super excited about Dobs. -_-

Andromxda ,
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Abortion ban happened because of Trump's corrupt judges in the supreme court, yeah

arin ,

They were 14 four years ago

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Why would China want Biden to lose?

Chakravanti ,

Because Trump is equivalent to self destruction.

SulaymanF ,

First, negotiations are not yet over, so they’re hoping courts overturn the ban.

Second, TikTok is very popular outside the US too, though 40% of ad revenue is in the US. They’d survive.

kevincox ,
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Even if they do plan to sell they wouldn't say it. If buyers think that a sale is inevitable they can offer less because they "don't have a choice" but to sell. If they act as if their plan is to pull out the buyers need to not just make them an offer that is higher than the others, but also high enough to make them reconsider their whole position.

rockitude ,

This is right on. The best PR right now is to say they’ll never sell. Take a hard line while they challenge the law in court. They can always have acquisition meetings in private, and announce it out of nowhere at the last second if they do find a buyer.

moitoi ,
@moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Another example of the falling US influence.

UFO64 ,

Exactly. We spent four years playing into their hands, its going to take us decades to recover from that mistake.

Liz ,

Nah, they'll sell. It would be foolish for them to admit it publicly, that would drive down the price. They'd also lose influence in the American media landscape if they killed TikTok. Finally, they're fighting this law in the courts, and admitting they'd sell if forced too would be weakening their position. It's not like selling would really hamper CCP control all that much, they'd just send texts to people's personal phones when they need something instead of sending official emails.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Nice hope they won't budge.

Hildegarde ,

Google knew youtube shorts didn't stand a chance in a fair market.

scarabic ,

There will be a rush of US startups to replace it, and they will all be stage 1 enshittification, so they might actually be good for a while, like TikTok once was.

simplejack ,
@simplejack@lemmy.world avatar

Or people will just migrate to the YouTube and Insta clones.

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

snapchats spotlight will do the best probably in terms of memes

Andromxda ,
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Still better than the Chinese propaganda machine

wick ,

YouTube shorts is such a hellhole that tiktokers migrating to it might improve things.

ArugulaZ ,

It's Vine time!
What? Just... just bring it back. Call it "Kudzu" or some crap if Elon Musk owns the rights to Vine.

mortemtyrannis ,

It’s fre

Free sha voc a doo.

BeMoreCareful ,

I honestly think about this a lot. She did a good job with what she was given.

MusketeerX ,

This would be a win for Facebook and Twitter/X.

asdfasdfasdf ,

Awesome

thatirishguyyy ,
@thatirishguyyy@lemmy.today avatar

Good?

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yeah

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