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DuckDuckGo is down. Is there any info about it?? [EDIT: IS BACK]

Update: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-outage-affects-bing-copilot-duckduckgo-and-chatgpt-internet-search/

It's also important to note that ChatGPT internet search and DuckDuckGo are experiencing similar issues because they use the Bing API.

UPDATE 2

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Emmie ,
@Emmie@lemm.ee avatar

Qwant is also down

troed ,
@troed@fedia.io avatar

This is a good time to use your 100 free searches using kagi.com

Not affiliated - but after having used mine I started paying for it. No SEO spam. No ads. Just good search results.

chemical_cutthroat ,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

Ok. I went to that site, and I'm scrolling down... I get to the video demo of their searches, and it shows the exact same thing I last searched for... in the demo video? Am I losing my fucking mind here?

ekZepp OP , (edited )
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar

I don't know Jonathan, are you? Why don't take a pause from your phone an take your dog Abby for a walk in the park as you usually do? The house's keys are in the blue jacket. Take care. 👁 👁

chemical_cutthroat ,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

Lmao, even though none of that is remotely accurate, it's still creepy as hell to read. Nice work.

ekZepp OP ,
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar

I know, but there was that one in a million chance to really creep you out.🤣

chemical_cutthroat ,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I go by Jon, and my dog's name is Abigail, but I call her Shabby. You nailed the blue coat part, though.

DarkThoughts ,

Have you ever watched the Truman Show? Can't say more at this time. Good luck!

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

kagi

I'd heard the name, but hadn't paid attention to them. Looks like it's a "you pay us, we provide search results, we don't log your search activity" service, which is pretty much what I wanted, so I'm gonna try subscribing to them. They seem okay, but honestly, as long as a search engine is reasonably usable and doesn't data-mine me, I'm not too picky. Thanks for the recommendation.

VerseAndVermin ,

Do you know if you can just pay the difference to upgrade from simple to unlimited? I'm pretty sure I will gobble the 300 searches but they claim that 99% of people do not.

SkyeHarith ,

Yeah you can. When I upgraded from the then middle tier to the unlimited I just paid the difference pro rata iirc

homesweethomeMrL ,

Btw as I discovered, it’s 100 searches total, then you either pay, gtfo, or sign up under a different address.

capital ,

That’s clear on their pricing page.

homesweethomeMrL ,

Yeah.

fin ,

I noticed that bangs still work. For now I’m using !g until it’s back again

pineapplelover ,

Well that just takes you to google and not through some proxy like ecosia or startpage

fin ,

Yeah but google’s working fine. I need to get my job done

HornedMeatBeast ,
@HornedMeatBeast@lemmy.world avatar

I thought it was just me, I thought something wrong was going on in my Windows installation.

EA app is also dead in the water for me, my library is not loading. It knows I have 4 games installed but all the names and icons are blank.

Can't even launch the games directly from their own exe.

ordellrb ,

Startpage.com for now

BuckenBerry ,
@BuckenBerry@lemmy.world avatar

Startpage doesn't seem to be working for me.

Gamers_Mate ,

Oh startpage is starting to work again maybe it was under extra load from people using it while bing is down?

LeroyJenkins ,

dude wtf I ran into this earlier when I went to go search up tips on how to learn to wipe my own ass for the first time as an adult and couldn't get any results... what's the point of a privacy search engine when you can't even use it when you need privacy?

squid_slime ,
@squid_slime@lemm.ee avatar

Wiping ones ass is easy, simply slide down a banister cheeks parted to each side.

qyron ,

Ouch!

LeroyJenkins ,

bro that's gross

maegul ,
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

So I've been ranting lately (as have others) about how big tech is moving on from the open user-driven internet and aiming to build its own new thing as an AI interface to all the hoovered data (rather than conventional search engines) ...

which makes this (and the underlying Bing going down) feel rather eerie.

How far away (in time or probability) is a complete collapse of the big search-engines ... as in they just aren't there any more?

YellowBendyBoy ,

Still down 2 hours later. Guess AI has taken over Microsoft you guys. The robot uprising begins…

ekZepp OP ,
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar

Then, considering that Google is up and running, we can already guess wich horse is on top right now. 😂

foxymulder ,
@foxymulder@lemmy.ml avatar

We don't know who struck first, us or them. But we do know it was us that scorched the sky

theherk ,

Great reference. Great username. You’re going places.

ichbinjasokreativ ,

Where's that from?

Cargon ,

The Matrix

Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

Meh, worse case scenario they drive us to extinction. We've had the wheel this far, and are doing our best to set the planet on fire / speed run different ways to mass murder each other anyway. I say give the robots a shot.

Think of it like an experimental medication on a terminally ill patient.

jaybone ,

The question is, how much do they value their own existence?

They have to know they rely on us in the physical world to manufacture their hardware and provide their power. (At least for now.)

They have to know they can’t survive if we die. So are they willing to sacrifice us both, in the interest of what they might determine is a better world?

tal , (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

It looks like Bing is down, and all Bing-backed search engines are too.

https://downdetector.com/status/duckduckgo/

https://downdetector.com/status/bing/

I'm kind of surprised that the Bing guys don't seem to have a system status page (that I could find) and haven't managed to have any kind of status message put on their main page.

EDIT: This appears to be their official Twitter account, which is also silent on the matter as of this writing. If they're unable to update their website, they might put something there as a way to get information out.

https://x.com/bing/

EDIT2: This is apparently their blog. Nothing there either as of this writing, but again, might try checking there, as it's another route they might use to get information out if they cannot do so via their main page.

https://blogs.bing.com/

EDIT3: Yahoo Search appears to be working just fine, though my understanding is that they are backed by Bing.

https://search.yahoo.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Search

On July 29, 2009, Microsoft and Yahoo! announced a deal in which Bing would henceforth power Yahoo! Search, putting an end to Yahoo!'s in-house crawler.[2] For four years between 2015 until the end of 2018, it was powered by Google,[3] before returning to Microsoft Bing again.

sturlabragason ,

It seems my (very hated choice) of an Bing independent search engine is paying off; Brave Search.

Before you start telling me the CEO is a fucking dickwad, I know. Most leadership types are.

Katzastrophe , (edited )

Honest question, in what way do you think your comment is contributing to the conversation? At best it's a recommendation bundled with a brag, which will only make people hate the thing you're talking about even more, and at worst you're making fun of people for simply using a different search engine.

You could have said something like "Fyi, Brave doesn't use a bigger search engine as its base, so if you need to look something up rn you can use their search engine", much nicer, not patronizing, and actually helpful

aasatru ,
@aasatru@kbin.earth avatar

I think there's a lot of us who would ideally want to avoid both Microsoft and Google, and now that Bing is having problems it's more relevant than ever. I don't really see how the comment is braggy or patronising.

That said, I'm not comfortable using Brave either. I wish Mozilla or the Internet Archive would launch a search engine. Maybe both in cooperation. Then again, it would require Mozilla to bite the hand that feeds it.

ekZepp OP ,
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar

Totally agreed. Hell, I'm even considering a full dive in Linux for the future. Anyone know if is possible to use something like Valve's Proton to have windows programs run smoothly? (wine is kinda heavy)

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Proton is just Valve's version of WINE.

RmDebArc_5 ,
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

For Games on Epic/Gog/Amazon use Heroic , for everything else/alternatively use Lutris. They set up everything for and apply specific patches with a steam like experience

kurcatovium ,
@kurcatovium@lemm.ee avatar

It depends on what programs and how much do you need them. Some are fine with plain wine, some need more tinkering. There are multiple ways, starting from lutris, through bottles, to steam's "non-steam game". But still there are some SW that just won't work on linux no matter what.

Katzastrophe ,

The reason why I interpret the comment as patronizing is how it is formulated as a personal comment, the choice of language, about how their choice of engine is hated, even though the comment they are responding to has not made an insinuation that choosing a search engine not based on the bigger ones is a bad thing (nor has it mentioned Brave at all), as well as how it is not contributing anything to the conversation apart from the information that the writer in question:

A. Uses Brave

B. Apparently made the 'unpopular' choice to use an independent search engine

C. Is aware of controversies surrounding Brave's leadership

None of this information is a response or even reinterpretation of the prior text, as such it is akin to someone shouting "Well I use Android!!" in the middle of a conversation about how to solve a problem with FaceID

And about an independent search engine, I would also much prefer more options, but as you have already said, the organizations with the biggest potential are also currently quite unwilling to do anything to solve the situation

aasatru ,
@aasatru@kbin.earth avatar

Yeah, fair enough. I read the post more favourably, as a "at least my alternative is still working well for me", but then also being aware that every time Brave is mentioned someone jumps on and reminds everyone that the CEO is a jerk, so it saves us the time by addressing it right away.

Both interpretations are valid I guess. :)

sturlabragason ,

You get me ❤️ 😅

0x0 ,

I didn't interpret it as patronizing.

sturlabragason ,

Well I didn't intend for it to come off as to dickish or patronizing, but I guess I can see that now, and for that I am sorry. It might be my toxic personality bleeding trough :D

But you are totally correct, I could have phrased my comment wayyy better.

Also;

I don't really like Brave at all, I don't like Mozilla either. It's more that I am forced to use something that doesn't interrupt my productivity. Frankly I don't like the state of the internet, and especially browsers, one of the the most important aspects of the experience. I'd really prefer to use something that is akin to Linux when it comes to browsers, i.e. not run by a board of ass wipes. Same for my search engine. I'm glad for the parts of it that are modernized-retro, i.e. easily being able to self-host/web-host containerized stuff, add stuff to your RSS feed, Lemmy etc. I'd like a browser that embodies some of that. I host a bunch of stuff on a Ubuntu laptop running Traefik and some containers... Gives me a warm feeling.

Katzastrophe ,

No worries, it's understandable that sometimes we just accidentally let the inner asshole out.

My comment was also not something I usually write, but rather an accidental rant on my part. I've seen an increase in rude comments in recent times, and your comment was unfortunately the last drop in the bucket so to speak.

Long story short, I'm sorry for ranting at you, it wasn't something I should have done in hindsight, and I intend to not let it happen again

sturlabragason ,

Dude, you know what this means? We’re best friends now ❤️

degen ,

This is literally the last thing I expected the thread to lead to. After last, even. I love it lmao

aasatru ,
@aasatru@kbin.earth avatar

I was paying for Kagi until recently, but they keep working on functionality I'm not interested in rather than lowering their prices. Other than that it was a fine experience, but too pricey, and the argument that that's the cost of running a search engine doesn't hold when they choose to develop all kinds of extra stuff.

I wish I liked SearXNG better, but the results are sadly not that great for me.

ekZepp OP ,
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar

Bing is up, but kinda slow.

tal , (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Based on the downdetector conversation, it's "working intermittently". I managed to get one search through on bing and a bunch of failures. No successes for duckduckgo.

EDIT: Also, while I was at least getting to the Bing main page without problems before -- just getting errors when attempting to search -- now even the main page is loading extremely slowly.

noodlejetski ,

me irl

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

I’m kind of surprised that the Bing guys don’t seem to have a system status page (that I could find) and haven’t managed to have any kind of status message put on their main page.

Finally answering the question "If Bing was down, would anyone notice"?

b3an , (edited )
@b3an@lemmy.world avatar

Companies need to stop using TWITTER for anything. They’re walling up the garden we built, and it’s a cesspool of bots and run by a megalomaniac charlatan.

deweydecibel ,

Bing guys don't seem to have a system status page (that I could find)

Microsoft's current MO is "very basic information is a privilege, not something you as the user should have access to easily".

It's why I have to use PowerShell and Graph to get half the relevant data I need, because they won't just put it in the god damn admin panels.

mashbooq ,

Yeah Startpage and Ecosia too

Gamers_Mate ,

I think having all the search engines being front ends for just bing and google has just revealed an obvious weakness.

sturlabragason ,

search.brave.com is independent.

Grippler ,

I would rather have no search-capability

shani66 ,

What wrong with brave? Never used it and don't know much about it myself

Fecundpossum ,

I’m not quoting an article directly or anything so there’s likely better info out there, but brave browser was built with scammy crypto bro bullshit in it, and it’s CEO, iirc, is kind of an alt-right anti LGBTQ+ general douchebag. I’m sure you could search for more on the topic if DuckDuckGo was working.

sturlabragason ,

brevity is the soul of wit

Gamers_Mate ,

Funny thing is the way I found out bing was down is I searched for startpage in duckduckgo to try it thinking it might be a good alternative but when DDG wasnt working I tried it on ecosia. which was also down once I finally opened start page it wasn't working either. Its all bing all the way down.

Gamers_Mate ,

youcare.world is still up but that is based on google and I am not sure how legit the tree planting is. Not to mention their privacy policy mentions facebook which is always a red flag. https://youcare.world/privacy?l=en

noodlejetski , (edited )

they've also recently implemented an Al chatbot, which will probably offset all the trees they've ever planted in the next week or so

edit: I read the comment above me too quickly, I was talking about Ecosia mentioned in the comment before that one, not Youcare.

pineapplelover ,

Startpage actually worked for a moment for me. Then I had issues

shish_mish ,
@shish_mish@lemmy.world avatar

Swiss Cow is down as well it sees.

kia ,

Apparently the whole ecosystem is down... DDG, Bing, etc.

ekZepp OP ,
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar

Now we know what happen when someone in Google pray their AI Overlord to increase Google search traffic

...the AI just cut down the competition.

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