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GiddyGap , to Technology in Google may let you choose which of its services are linked, thanks to EU

The EU seems like the only major entity actually trying at this point. They deserve a huge thanks in my book.

sneezymrmilo , to Technology in Google may let you choose which of its services are linked, thanks to EU

Our EU saviors. Its so disappointing that we need to rely on the EU to force companies to make changes rather than our own governments...

lolcatnip , to Technology in Google may let you choose which of its services are linked, thanks to EU

Couldn't you always unlink Google services by using different accounts for them?

yukijoou ,

you could, but they definitely pushed you to use a single account everywhere, even logging you in automatically to your google account in chrome if you use it on google search or vice-versa

faerbit , to Technology in Google may let you choose which of its services are linked, thanks to EU

Cool. When can I have another location or backup provider on my Android phone?

madis ,

You can already use any backup apps. ADB-based, root-based or simply copying the APKs.

JackGreenEarth ,
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Can't back up app data without rooting my phone, and I can't root my phone until a third party gets the make files for me to use with magisk, and Motorola is not forced to provide them.

yukijoou ,

you can definitely back up apps and most files using adb and a computer, and probably even your phone itself by doing adb over the network back to your phone

also, i think there's a way of setting up a different location provider in the developper setings on android!

ianovic69 , to Technology in Google may let you choose which of its services are linked, thanks to EU
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Next update - "Google to shut down Chrome in the EU"

natsume_shokogami ,

They would dare, I think, maybe even the reverse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_effect

maynarkh ,

"Google to kill its own browser monopoly and encourage competition instead by leaving a market bigger than the US open"

themurphy ,

Next update after that: "Competing browser taking 100% of Chrome's market share"

THE_ANON , to Technology in Google may let you choose which of its services are linked, thanks to EU

Man i love EU

maynarkh , to Technology in Google may let you choose which of its services are linked, thanks to EU

The Digital Markets Act (DMA) is an EU law that takes effect on March 6, 2024. As a result of the DMA, in the EU, Google offers you the choice to keep certain Google services linked.

Gotta love the weaselly language.

I'm wondering if they try to slither out of actually complying with the law.

  • They say they will unlink whatever "Ad Services" is and everything else. IMO they should unlink customer ad profiles from other service accounts, which I don't expect them to do.
  • The whole point of the DMA is not just to have Google unlink your Youtube account from your Gmail account, but that they provide the same level of service and integration to outside services as with their own, without prioritizing their own. That means that I should be able to use Google Chrome and Search together to the same degree as Firefox and Search. Execs at Google are on record saying the only point of them developing Chrome is to do stuff that is now against the law in Europe. I wonder if they find a new business model or keep the current, illegal one.
tsonfeir , to Technology in Google originally did not want to make any money from Android's app store
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Said no Google exec ever.

satans_crackpipe ,

I heard Google was a non-profit and they care about us very much.

smileyhead , to Technology in Google originally did not want to make any money from Android's app store

Remember Open Handset Alliance (https://www.openhandsetalliance.com/)?

Or when it was actually possible to make an app for Android using open source tools?

wreckedcarzz , to Technology in Google originally did not want to make any money from Android's app store
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

And shareholders were originally happy with their profits

Nobody , to Technology in YouTube's plan backfires, people are installing better ad blockers

These tech companies have underestimated their utility. They are mostly providing mindless time wasters. If you try to charge money or create inconvenience, people will look for something else to do.

Their attention is your lifeblood, and you’re actively giving them reasons to look elsewhere. The VC grow-at-all-costs business model is fundamentally flawed. It doesn’t scale when profitability becomes a priority.

Supervisor194 ,
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Their attention is your lifeblood, and you’re actively giving them reasons to look elsewhere.

👍

My attention is all the currency YouTube will ever get from me - and it should be enough. If I post videos to YouTube (for nothing in return) and I talk to people about videos I saw on YouTube or link them to videos - then I am a net gain for Google and they should treat me as such. If anything, they should be working (nicely) to try to get me to want to pay (or view ads) and just be thankful I'm there if I don't pay (or view ads). Instead they've chosen to work at ensuring everyone is so goddamn pissed off at their bullshit that they'd rather make it their full-time job to never give them another dime. Good job, Google! Smart!

Edit: Oh look, half a dozen lectures about how Google has to make money somehow. Hi there YouTube shills, I thought I would see you here.

obinice ,
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

Look I hate YouTube ads too, and ads in general, but let's say every user of a service is like you. Attention is all the currency they'll ever get from you, that's totally cool, absolutely. I'm totally that way too. But they've got to make money somehow, so if you're not the paying customer, someone else has to be.

I'm not saying it has to be ad sales either, but if we want a world in which we can use services for free without ads, we need to come up with an alternative way for them to make money. It has to come from somewhere, and by the bucketload.

If every user thinks like you, then it doesn't matter how many people you talk to or share links with, you're not a net gain on their service, you bring nothing to it.

Why should they, or anybody, be thankful that you honour them with your presence, if you contribute nothing of value? What makes you so entitled to use somebody's product for free with no strings attached?

Ads suck, I'm eager for us to move past them once we figure out an alternative that keeps products in business and us receiving things for free. But we can't deny the reality we live in right now either. Even huge companies like Google (who yes, do suck) have to make money to survive.

crusa187 ,

To answer your questions - users such as this bring something more valuable than ad money. They bring data. Google harvests data and metrics on users in a million ways, packages this up, and sells it for considerably more than they make on ads. In free services such as this, YOU are the product.

Ads suck, nobody wants to watch them, and they simply represent google maximizing shareholder value at every opportunity, as they are legally bound to do under American capitalism. YouTube ads are not a critical revenue stream that will make or break them.

cole ,
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Copy-pasting this from a comment I made a few days ago. I’m so tired of this misconception. Google’s business model literally disincentivizes selling personal data. The business model is built on selling targeted advertisements. Google wants to keep this data to itself because it gives them a competitive advantage in the ad space.

Selling your data would give competitors power in the marketplace. So yes, Google collects data and uses it, but no, Google does not sell your data. It sells targeting BASED on your data.

Very different, regardless of if it is any better.

skymtf , to Privacy in Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans

I use simple SMS anyway, I honestly would love to see a modern dailer for degoogled android. I wonder if we could get the little verified caller checkmarks on a Foss dailer app

DetectiveSanity ,

Imagine if the dialer could sync a region specific spam blocklist

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