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paraphrand , to Technology in China Just Cured Diabetes and America’s Insulin Industry is Not Happy About it

What is this medium blog nonsense with a nonsense headline?

The last time this was posted people pointed out this therapy isn’t new, as far as I remember.

This is blog spam. I saw no citations about any insulin companies being angry.

DevCat , to Technology in China Just Cured Diabetes and America’s Insulin Industry is Not Happy About it
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Ok, first, it only applies to Type 2 diabetes.

In a remarkable medical breakthrough, Chinese scientists have successfully cured a patient of type 2 diabetes through an innovative cell therapy approach.

Second, it was done on a case-by-case basis. Each person has their own therapy tailored for them. This does not appear to be a mass-solution.

The groundbreaking treatment involved transplanting lab-grown replicas of the patient’s own insulin-producing islet cells into their body. This ingenious approach effectively restored the patient’s pancreatic islet function, enabling the body to regulate blood sugar levels naturally without external intervention.

From the linked article:

According to a South China Morning Post report, the patient underwent the cell transplant in July 2021.

...

The new therapy involves programming the patient's peripheral blood mononuclear cells, transforming them into "seed cells" to recreate pancreatic islet tissue in an artificial environment. This approach leverages the body's regenerative capabilities, an emerging field known as regenerative medicine.

solrize ,

Yeah I don't see mention in the article of (so far) any observable reaction from the US pharma industry. It's maybe reasonable as conjecture but not something we can claim as a fact.

sudoreboot ,
@sudoreboot@slrpnk.net avatar

it was done on a case-by-case basis. Each person has their own therapy tailored for them. This does not appear to be a mass-solution.

I'm not sure what you are expecting for something to be considered a cure? What they are describing is a treatment procedure which uses the patient's own tissue. How does that make it case-by-case?

Talaraine ,

Because you can't pack it up in a box and ship it to just anyone. They have to make it specifically for you. Hence case-by-case.

ringwraithfish ,

I see you're describing a case-by-case basis, but I'm still failing to see how it's case-by-case. /s

sudoreboot ,
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I reply to people on lemmy on a case-by-case basis. I decide how to eat food on a case-by-case basis. But if you give me a deck of cards and tell me to shuffle them, I generally do not decide how to shuffle on a case-by-case basis; it doesn't matter whose cards they are.

Thrashy ,
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This is actually becoming somewhat commonplace. For example, in many cutting-edge cancer therapies, blood is drawn from the patient, processed in tissue-culture suites on site to extract the patient's immune cells and sensitize them to some marker expressed by their specific cancer cells, and then the modified immune cells are returned to the patient room and transfused back into their bodies. It's not cheap per se but it's something that most top-tier cancer centers can do, and to do the similar process of extracting stem cells, inducing them to transform into pancreatic islet cells, and transplanting those into the patient's pancreas isn't that big of a jump -- and it'd be cheaper than a lifetime of insulin in any case. It also points the way towards treating other kinds of organ failure without the risk of rejection, too.

sudoreboot ,
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That's not what case-by-case means.
Wiktionary:

Separate and distinct from others of the same kind; treated individually.

Case-by-case implies that each treatment is different and is not generalisable; but the fact that they use a patient's own tissue does not make each individual treatment different. If you want to extend the logic, you might call vaccination a case-by-case treatment as well, since they use different needles for each person.

z3rOR0ne , to Technology in A Marriage Made in Hell: An Introduction to Microsoft’s Complicity in Apartheid and Genocide
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Alternative front end to medium, with no JS. Read the same article on scribe.

PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S , to Anarchism in Liberals Are Killing Trans Kids.
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Why tf is this being downvoted here? 🖕 to liberals.

Fuckfuckmyfuckingass ,
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I've noticed that all the Lemmy Anarchist communities are filled with people that downvote any Anarchist sounding post. Which begs the question why they follow these communities?

WalrusDragonOnABike ,

The fediverse isn't that active. I'm sure a some people just see a good chunk of what is posted regardless of which community its posted in. So you'll see people in a trans community posting on a meme and then later realizing that their comment is totally irrelevant to the community they were posting in and they totally missed the point of the meme.

Fuckfuckmyfuckingass ,
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While what you say is true and makes sense. It would behoove those people to block a community they're not interested in, or just not engage at all. Rather than downvote a headline that hurt their feelings of an article they didn't even read the body of.

transfemessays OP ,

Not sure. Maybe they think I'm a republican? You would think that anarchists would agree that democrats haven't been doing enough to help trans kids. I guess not!

PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S ,
@PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Check out LibertyHub @ lemmy.blahaj.zone. Zero tolerance for liberal bullshit over there.

transfemessays OP ,

i'll check it out <3

InEnduringGrowStrong ,
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Coming from /all and because a few users reported it...

My guess is when taken without context, the title kinda reads like something from a MAGA outlet.
Now, the article obviously isn't, but sadly, not everyone reads articles.
RTFA, people.

inclementimmigrant , to Technology in Free-Market Advocate, Elon Musk, Asks for U.S. Government to Put Tariffs on Chinese EV Imports

Yeah, tariffs aren't going to help Tesla at this point but yeah, he's still a hypocritical jackass.

madcaesar , to Technology in Free-Market Advocate, Elon Musk, Asks for U.S. Government to Put Tariffs on Chinese EV Imports

An asshole can be right. China is anti competitive and actively undermining democracies.

Our ev manufacturers need to be put under pressure, but not by fascist regimes and their exploitation of the earth and people.

djsaskdja ,

The US is a democracy? That’s news to me.

Dkarma ,

Oligarchy. Bought and paid for.

InternetUser2012 , to Technology in Free-Market Advocate, Elon Musk, Asks for U.S. Government to Put Tariffs on Chinese EV Imports

Welp that's if for me then, I'm against tariffs on the cheap shit chinese ev's. Anything that piece of shit wants is bad for us.

capital ,

I understand the sentiment but that logic isn’t a great way to reliably get you closer to truth.

smeenz , (edited ) to Technology in Free-Market Advocate, Elon Musk, Asks for U.S. Government to Put Tariffs on Chinese EV Imports

He wants to be free to control the market, sure.

Mango , to Technology in Free-Market Advocate, Elon Musk, Asks for U.S. Government to Put Tariffs on Chinese EV Imports

YA DON'T SAY

Aceticon , to Technology in Free-Market Advocate, Elon Musk, Asks for U.S. Government to Put Tariffs on Chinese EV Imports

"One rule for me, another for thee."

BlushedPotatoPlayers , to Technology in Free-Market Advocate, Elon Musk, Asks for U.S. Government to Put Tariffs on Chinese EV Imports

I don't mind bashing Musk for a second, but as far as I know China follows a startup mentality with electric cars - the government supports the industry so they can sell cars below their actual price, and once they killed all their competition they can increase.

There's no fair winning against this policy

Lautaro ,
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That's free market, alright.

jumjummy ,

I would think that the winning move would be to impose enough tariffs to offset the foreign government subsidies, yet still promote some competition.

Maggoty ,

The government could also 100 percent fund battery research; Put a government owned company out there to make a floor in the market (5 person hatchback with minimum amenities); Give us more than 7,500 in EV rebates on a select few models; Change CAFE standards so bigger isn't automatically better; etc...

There's a lot we could do. We instead chose the most reductive and protectionist route possible. And even then Volvo (Owned by Greely) says they may be able to get a refund on the entire tariff because of the other models they produce in the US.

jumjummy ,

Definitely need more subsidies or grants for domestic research. Though I don’t see the government owned company idea working mainly due to how capitalism is implemented here. The government tends to not directly compete with private entities.

Fully agree with clamping down (via higher taxes or something similar) on the giant vehicles and the loopholes they can abuse today.

Maggoty ,

Oh yeah, Americans would riot before buying basic goods from the government. Still it's something that would be legal and is an option. Even floating the idea seriously could cause the auto makers to remember how to make those minimum amenity hatchbacks.

Maggoty ,

We have 10 trillion dollars more GDP. If China wants to declare open season on EV's there's no reason we can't beat them at this game. This policy is meant purely to prevent our auto industry from having to innovate like a competitive market would force. Nope we're going to have 50k E-SUVs that spy on us and fall apart. And we'll like it. Because they also passed legislation in my state to ban the sale of new gas cars in 6 years. And the mass transit system is. not. ready.

barsquid ,

You seem to think the ICE cars are not spying on you nor falling apart.

Maggoty ,

No, I'm under no illusions. I'm just not happy at the lack of competition.

Valmond ,

2014 Kangoo begs to differ (no options, except the brown color).

Shapillon ,

We got one, it's pretty much unkillable. We even used it to gather wood.

stephen01king ,

But is the Kangoo in the same price category as the EVs that spy on us? Is it even released at a time when major corporations spying on everyone is so normalized like it is today? I think both of these being no would explain why that car is so nice, simple, and reliable.

barsquid ,

AFAIK every ICE car model has some cutoff year after which they have added spy tech. You do have to buy used to not be spied upon. Mozilla did a page on Renault here: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/renault/

I see a bunch of people freaking out over EVs, panicking about spying or being disabled remotely. But the newer ICE cars are, AFAICT, the same thing. I just want everyone worried about this 1984 shit to not be burying their heads in the sand. I'm worried about it also. We should organize against it. (I guess the person I responded to didn't think ICE cars are any better, after all. But it did seem so at first.)

Yeah, buy used for now, but I'd like to stop the practice entirely. Otherwise they can just wait it out as more and more old cars are totaled or unmaintainable.

TheDarksteel94 ,

Have you seen the reports from China about their EVs? If it's about falling appart, they're far ahead of anything any western manufacturers could produce lol

localhost443 ,

Like that time a US state subsidised Tesla with a billion dollar factory in exchange for jobs most of which were never delivered. I bet in China at least they would expect their grant deal to be fulfilled.

I'm not trying to advocate for China, just pointing out how much of Tesla's current position is the result of hand outs (see; carbon credits)

Hildegarde ,

So they're just like Uber. Why didn't they put a 100% tax on them?

buzz86us ,

And the US supports the oil and gas industry. The government supports the industry so they can sell gas below its actual price.

cyd , to Technology in Free-Market Advocate, Elon Musk, Asks for U.S. Government to Put Tariffs on Chinese EV Imports

"Businessmen favor free enterprise in general but are opposed to it when it comes to themselves." -- Milton Friedman

_sideffect , to Technology in Free-Market Advocate, Elon Musk, Asks for U.S. Government to Put Tariffs on Chinese EV Imports

This is why he wants 25% of tesla so badly

Empricorn , to Technology in Free-Market Advocate, Elon Musk, Asks for U.S. Government to Put Tariffs on Chinese EV Imports

Even ignoring all his crazy stances, he's the CEO of an American EV company! What the fuck what would you expect him to say!?

MxM111 ,
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

And not just that, he owns significant portion of it.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

You mean the CEO of a company wants no competition? Heresay!

It does make a clicky headline though

Windex007 ,

I think the ask is to just pick a lane.

Nobody had a gun to his head demanding him to espouse his commitment to an unregulated free market. He made these broad statements of his own volition.

Now, when he's championing the exact opposite... What?

For people who believed, rightly or wrongly that he had any value-baded stances, they have to accept that they don't exist.

That's what these doofuses are upset about: that the xth richest person in the world is only out for themselves. There is no deeper truth.

barsquid ,

He has no need for integrity or consistency. Just like every other fascism-aligned clown choosing or inventing whichever rules they like for each situation.

Coreidan ,

I expect him to call someone a pedo or some other shit he’s projecting

IphtashuFitz ,

Tesla has both a gigafactory and a Supercharger factory in mainland China. Any semi-competent CEO would recognize that publicly advocating for tariffs on China would have a good chance of backfiring. China could easily turn around and slap 100% tariffs on everything coming out of those two factories in retaliation.

projectsquared ,

Any semi-competent CEO

This is the important bit right here.

seaQueue , to Technology in Free-Market Advocate, Elon Musk, Asks for U.S. Government to Put Tariffs on Chinese EV Imports
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Free markets for me but not for thee

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