It has been obvious to anyone paying attention that the reason Dorsey founded and funded Bluesky was with the end goal of enabling Twitter to go [Spider-Man Pointing dot GIF] any time an actual Nazi showed up, because moderation was not their problem, they just outsourced it to a series of nested shell companies (that they fund) who act as reputation laundries and liability crumple zones.
Several of you seem to be misunderstanding. When he says “like Twitter” it’s not in the negative ways you are thinking. It’s in the negative ways he’s thinking. Meaning censorship and being able to ban accounts. He doesn’t want that. Mastodon would have the same criticisms if he commented on it.
These billionaires are just regular people with less empathy (there are no ethical billionaires). They have the same braindead ideas we all have if we dont know anything about a topic and are in a talkative mood or possibly drunk or high, or all of those combined I guess.
Wasn't twitter really good about banning actual Nazis and not banning journalists until Musk came along? After Musk came, Nazis were unbanned and we saw a huge wave of journalists getting banned.
Before Musk, Twitters advertising was driven by engagement, and engagement was driven by encountering things that made you angry. So they were slow to respond to anything but the most egregious cases of hatred and bigotry.
No... NO. It was appallingly terrible at banning Nazis, worse than even Reddit in many ways. Twitter banned a tiny, tiny fraction of extremely prominent and openly fascist accounts that had been permitted to operate for years, but they ignored Nazi dogwhistles from large accounts and smaller accounts that didn't gain a following and were used to harass 1-2 people were generally allowed to operate freely.
Remember: they didn't even ban Donald Trump himself until he tried to literally violently overthrow the US government. Twitter pre-Musk was an absolute shit hole, but it was at least headed in a hopeful direction. Musk kept it a shit hole and just changed the direction it was going.
It doesn't block them though does it? My understanding is that it simply filters them so that you don't see them anymore. They're still there doing their thing though.
It does block them more so than on fedi. When I block someone they can’t see my content nor account, they can’t log out and go see my content. It’s not just filtered, also they have banned accounts and removed content
Man...no leadership, no accountability, just a rich billionaire drifter acting like he has principles. Idgaf, I like fediverse, and I like my block button...it's the only alt I've found that isn't a rightwing cess pool full of degens.
I'm on Bluesky and my view of it, at least, is absolutely nothing like Twitter. I'm glad he quit it before he could really turn it into another Nazi-infested hellhole.
He was on the board, it's not like it was his project or anything. Imo he wanted to create a protocol, not a platform. "Improve Activitypub" like they always claimed. But then Bluesky realized that they can simply build their own platform and be Twitter 2.0
@Microw@dumbass No. He wouldn't be happy with ActivityPub as well. He imagines a social network where no one can perform any moderation. He favours Nostr for exactly that reason. Bluesky has got moderation (just like the Fediverse) - which he dislikes.
Moderation should always be client side. Server side should not be able to interfere or even read public content
Yup. I don't know if I agree re public content, but perhaps private messages should be encrypted, client side, before sending? That issue is one that bothers me about Mastodon.
No. He wouldn’t be happy with ActivityPub as well. He imagines a social network where no one can perform any moderation. He favours Nostr for exactly that reason. Bluesky has got moderation (just like the Fediverse) - which he dislikes.
So? Like Usenet was back in the day before it became a pirate haven. Then email lists became it. LOL, People tend to ignore the extreme nut jobs regardless. I never saw any child porn on Usenet, but then I didn't go looking for it. No doubt it existed too.
it's meant to be twitter by ui and feel, for sure.
i'd also say it's meant to be more like twitter from a decade ago when twitter actually had a functioning moderation system and kept toxicity away. the moderation system, which is open sourced and allows anyone to add on to, is one of the best.
