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shartworx ,
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Some companies are doing it to create a hostile workplace to increase attrition. If an employee quits, they don't have to pay unemployment or severance. Other companies have huge investments in corporate real estate. They have been sitting on short-term loans that are coming due. The property owners are keeping their real-estate values artificially high, but to one wants to rent/lease them, so they aren't as valuable as in practice as they look on paper. Some companies get tax breaks from cities to put their offices there and will not continue to reap those rewards if their workers are not coming into the city. Don't let them gaslight you about culture or face time because that has all been debunked. A lot of remote workers are coming in to the office and sitting on Zoom/Teams calls in their cubicles.

melpomenesclevage ,

The dumbest most mismanaged bullshit in history.

A history that includes the fucking Bolsheviks!

protozoan_ninja ,

You think the Bolsheviks were bad, just look at the guy they replaced. He made the Bolsheviks look good!

melpomenesclevage ,

Korensky? He wasnt great, but I don't think he was as bad as those dipshits. At least he didn't murder all the communists.

protozoan_ninja , (edited )

I actually meant the tsar, and I can understand feeling bad for Kerensky (poor man must have been so confused, when all he had to do was get on a train out of Dodge as of mid-late September 1917 and anyone with an ounce of sense could have told him this), but don't hold him up as a leading light of proper management and doing shit the smart way, okay?

melpomenesclevage ,

Yeah I'm just bitter about the Bolsheviks betraying the revolution so they could be on top before it was even finished, abd doing it so completely.

Yes, monarchs were often worse, and Nick was particularly spectacular in that regard. But the USSR is sort of a recognizable legibly-modern example; they had tell communications and (shitty, because they had a chance to be decades ahead of everyone else and noped out) computers and airplanes and stuff. And while they're not the worst, they're well past the "there is no fucking excuse to suck this much" line. So that's my "worse than x" line, and I think the american empire fails on every metric.

To be clear, while I do have criticisms of centralized communism (the centralized part), I think if it were substantially at fault for how much the USSR sucked, Cuba wouldn't have lasted five seconds, much less outlived it and still squeaked by even with the spectacular bullshit challenges it face(d/s)

protozoan_ninja , (edited )

Yup, it was a shitshow. If you're a socialist, it's good to study, but maybe in the same spirit as bourgeois revolutionaries might have studied the wreckage of the French Revolution. Or, you know, in the same spirit as Marx and Engels reflecting on the failures of 1848.

INHALE_VEGETABLES ,

What the fuck kind of weyland corporation do you guys work for.

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

Literally every corporation.

Marin_Rider ,

the most unbelievable part is cubicles, no real corporations will provide that much privacy and instead force you to work open plan on a row of desks next to a random other person from another team who was also forced in for no reason

KingThrillgore ,
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Them: I need you in the office so I can keep you under my finger!

Me: Bro do you know how much in rent and power you're gonna save keeping them at home?

Marin_Rider ,

the only expenses businesses ever complain about are wages. they don't seem to care how much is wasted elsewhere if they could save a few dollars cutting some shift workers allowance

go_go_gadget ,

Thanks Biden ya fuckin loser: https://www.npr.org/2023/09/07/1196787623/federal-workers-remote-office-ordered-taxpayers-telework-science

9488fcea02a9 ,

None of my coworkers drive to the office and we actually like seeing each other.... Hybrid remote work is great for us

I think 90% of the problem is people being forced to drive everywhere

joyjoy ,

Traffic would be so much better with a staggered work force. We might actually enjoy the commute.

SlopppyEngineer ,

Because of traffic, the workforce started staggering by themselves here if possible. The result was that bad traffic was spread out over the entire day instead of just two peaks in the morning and evening. Good traffic is only at night and working at night defeats the purpose of having business hours.

ECB ,

Basically just further proof that car traffic doesn't scale well. It's just an incredibly space inefficient way to get around.

melpomenesclevage ,

Or if they actually cared, they could build trains.

squid_slime ,
@squid_slime@lemm.ee avatar

Another factor is the spaces that offices take up or the power used whilst unoccupied, these space could be used for housing or maybe even industry.

Its great that no one drives to your work but this is more uncommon than common.

In conclusion: work from home is better.

MonkeMischief ,

Don't forget giant slammed parking lots! :D

DigitalTraveler42 ,

I hate how the left hand panes look Ron DeSantis, and cutting carbon emissions isn't something that asswhipe would discuss since he and his predecessor, Senator Rick Scott, like to pretend climate change isn't real and it's "wokie/DEI/SJW/Socialist/Communist/Chinese/etc. bullshit". However he would definitely get mad at work from home, regardless of how much it betters the state of Florida, gotta keep those slaves in the fields where can see them, right?

zcd ,

Unnecessary RTO should be outlawed

nxdefiant ,

The worst part of it is most big companies are forcing RTO to either justify the leases they don't want to pay to break, or to satisfy tax incentives agreements they made with municipalities.

In both cases, they're deciding it's better if you pay - in time, gas, car maintenance, mental health, productivity, and stress - for their business decisions that went bad instead of paying money out of their own bloated pockets.

_sideffect ,

Meanwhile, my lead, who insists I drive 40km which takes 70 minutes one way:

"I can't do teams meetings for design discussions, I don't like drawing with my mouse"

Me: "OK, get a Wacom tablet or wtv and draw with that?"

Him: "No, just come to the office" for our 5 min talks we have occasionally and the once every two weeks 1 hr discussion

saintshenanigans , (edited )

There's like a $10 app called super display that will turn any android device into a touch monitor, pair that with one of those precision styluses with the plastic disc on the end, you got a ~$20 dollar drawing tablet!

_sideffect ,

Nice! I would have imagined there was some app to allow freehand drawing on phones, so thanks for the info!

Patches ,

Hint: it isn't about the Drawing.

saintshenanigans ,

Yeah exactly, so strip the layers from this bullshit onion and don't let him have any excuses.

MystikIncarnate ,

I read this has: " I have an irrational need to be in the same room as you, here is a plausible excuse to justify it"

Then you replied with: "here is a reasonable solution to the excuse you gave me so that we can all work better"

And then it went down hill.

miss_brainfarts ,

If only they could somehow have a webcam point at their desk to show you what they're drawing

_sideffect ,

😂

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

Hey boss, you want to put these servers in the cloud?

Oh and by the way, me working from home is the human equivalent of working in the cloud.

RaoulDook ,

It's somebody else's server (clouds) and somebody else's office (yours instead of theirs)

LustyArgonianMana ,
@LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world avatar

If unions and OSHA really had teeth, they'd point out the significant health risks of having workers commute to work versus work from home. In terms of lives saved, work from home is much safer and we should fine companies accordingly when they force workers to commute when instead they could simply work from home. They should also be fined for environmental impact as well :)

blanketswithsmallpox ,

2802 - 7006 lives saved every year if wfh was allowed partially or all the way.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/remote-work-literally-saves-lives-peter-watridge

kibiz0r ,

But the company culture.

zurohki ,

The culture:

Tons of computers in identical cubicles

flashgnash ,

What a depressing sight to behold

At least it's empty

Rolive ,

Better than an open office setting.

Patches ,

Which is better still than open office "Hot Desking"

Rolive ,

Yep I know all about it. Shit sucks.

UpperBroccoli ,
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Obligatory

Roflmasterbigpimp , (edited )

I Like how he becomes so angry that he starts to bleed 😂

BudgetBandit ,

I save $7 per day working from home while I can listen to death metal.

Kit ,

I'd be fine with going into the office if public transportation could get me there, but it's a 15 minute drive vs 1.5 hours on the bus. And when I go into the office I just put in headphones with a YouTube documentary and don't talk to anyone. What's the point?

MrVilliam ,

I don't have the kind of job that can be done remotely, but I'm all for remote work where it's possible and desired. My best friend hated working from home at the height of covid because he's an extrovert who can't really afford to go out much. Now he works from home Mondays and Fridays and I think it's kinda the best of both worlds for him. I think that employers that already have office space for workers that could effectively do their job from home should give workers a choice. Maybe hybrid workers have required scheduled days in the office just to make sure they're there to attend necessary meetings or collaborations or whatever rather than it just be them coming in when they feel like it, but the technology has caught up to allow way more flexibility than ever before. If I had a 100% desk job, I would move somewhere cheaper and never come in. I know I'm not alone there, and I think there's no reason to hold that option hostage. Covid proved that it could be done for most white collar work, and we can't let them try to squeeze that Pandora back into its box.

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