Welcome to Incremental Social! Learn more about this project here!
Check out lemmyverse to find more communities to join from here!

_sideffect ,

Meanwhile, my lead, who insists I drive 40km which takes 70 minutes one way:

"I can't do teams meetings for design discussions, I don't like drawing with my mouse"

Me: "OK, get a Wacom tablet or wtv and draw with that?"

Him: "No, just come to the office" for our 5 min talks we have occasionally and the once every two weeks 1 hr discussion

saintshenanigans , (edited )

There's like a $10 app called super display that will turn any android device into a touch monitor, pair that with one of those precision styluses with the plastic disc on the end, you got a ~$20 dollar drawing tablet!

_sideffect ,

Nice! I would have imagined there was some app to allow freehand drawing on phones, so thanks for the info!

Patches ,

Hint: it isn't about the Drawing.

saintshenanigans ,

Yeah exactly, so strip the layers from this bullshit onion and don't let him have any excuses.

MystikIncarnate ,

I read this has: " I have an irrational need to be in the same room as you, here is a plausible excuse to justify it"

Then you replied with: "here is a reasonable solution to the excuse you gave me so that we can all work better"

And then it went down hill.

miss_brainfarts ,

If only they could somehow have a webcam point at their desk to show you what they're drawing

_sideffect ,

😂

Roflmasterbigpimp , (edited )

I Like how he becomes so angry that he starts to bleed 😂

LustyArgonianMana ,
@LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world avatar

If unions and OSHA really had teeth, they'd point out the significant health risks of having workers commute to work versus work from home. In terms of lives saved, work from home is much safer and we should fine companies accordingly when they force workers to commute when instead they could simply work from home. They should also be fined for environmental impact as well :)

blanketswithsmallpox ,

2802 - 7006 lives saved every year if wfh was allowed partially or all the way.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/remote-work-literally-saves-lives-peter-watridge

EndlessNightmare ,

The resistance to allowing WFH really shows how bullshit the push for EVs "to help the environment" is.

I'm not anti-EV and do believe they are better than ICE. But even better than an EV-driven mile is a mile that isn't driven at all.

blanketswithsmallpox ,

I'm not sure how you equate that first paragraph at all. Can you expound? The second one just nullifies the first lol.

EndlessNightmare ,

My point is that if they were serious about protecting the environment, they would promote WFH (for those who can...not everyone can obviously) in addition to EVs. Instead, there seems to be a big push for return to office.

blanketswithsmallpox ,

Got it. Thanks. It definitely read like you were saying EVs were some secret not as good as you thought it was issue...

When they're pretty damn fantastic at lowering pollution over time.

https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1110016823009055

MonkeMischief ,

Yeah, I think he was explaining that EVs ARE more efficient, but like everything with industrial capitalism, the idea is that they're solving for:

"How can we increase efficiency, while keeping inefficient traffic jams and pointless office commutes?"

When, if they actually cared for the environment, reducing office commutes in the first place has proven to work wonders in dropping pollution. There's just no psychopathic control and exponential corporate real estate profits involved.

An EV is more efficient than an ICE, but industry wants never-ending constantly-exponentially-growing production and purchasing of EVs, so they can enjoy a future of EV-majority traffic jams, instead of gas and diesel traffic jams.

We'll then get emotional-piano commercials about how they saved the planet by mass producing a product that was mass consumed.

But we could simply not have traffic jams, and everybody knows it.
That would make people too happy though, and give them time to think. Like 2020, it would once again be difficult to find people who will put up with corporate nonsense.

Solving problems by putting dents in demand also has a way of making quarterly projections inconvenient. :p

blanketswithsmallpox ,

While true I think most people understand that most of our modern economies that sustain billionaire corpos and the stock market are almost purely run by the magic that unstainable growth based gdp. This will always be the case until we work properly on fusion and a Dyson swarm.

We will reach a point when we hit 11 billion people and growth levels off. People will revolt en masse when they realize they can't retire without the magic rich made richer money generation machine that is the stock markets compounding interest. Turns out you'll have to save for a retirement by not magically generating more money from just hoarding it.

Until then, keep putting in your 401k and understand that any large change to an American economy to fix commute problems is going to cost way more than Europe due to our land size and heavily suburbian population centers.

Everyone is down for mass transit until they realize they have to pay for it lol.

RaoulDook ,

It's not bullshit at all. It is a lot better for cars that are being used to not shoot out smoke from combusting refined oil. There will always be cars in use, so it will always be better for them to not shoot out smoke.

It's not possible for all workers to live inside dense cities and use public transport and work in offices or at home. MANY other jobs are out there and still need doing every day. Everyone who physically maintains all of our critical infrastructure, manufacturing, and food supply industries is pretty much going to commute to work one way or another. Millions of those people don't live in cities with public transport and/or don't work where public transport can take them to. EVs are an improvement for all of those necessary use cases, because the vehicles they need could not be shooting out smoke.

EndlessNightmare ,

I'm not sure what percentage of workers could do their job from home if they were allowed to. It's probably a small minority, though a quick glance of numbers from COVID would suggest 15-20%. I'll use 15% for sake of argument but would welcome a more "confident" number if someone has it.

Reducing the number of miles is and important way to reduce impact. Additionally, even those who cannot work from home benefit from reduces congestion and reduces vehicle idling. Although idling has less impact on EVs (though they still have to run HVAC), ICE vehicles are still the majority of vehicles being sold today in most nations and will be in circulation for decades.

Not everyone can WFH, but it needs to be part of the strategy of reducing emissions from transportation. Not pushing WFH (for those who can) is leaving a lot on the table. This is not a replacement for EVs, rather in addition to.

RaoulDook ,

I'm all for WFH and EVs personally. Haven't bought an EV yet but I would like to have a non-spyware-laden one for a reasonable price.

MonkeMischief ,

The spyware part. Agh!!

A big motivator for keeping my early-2000's car with almost 215,000 miles on it is just how CREEPY modern cars are.

Mozilla's "Privacy Not Included" column really highlighted this. It's terrible and it's currently all legal and you can never really trust you've circumvented it.

Sucks too, because those "Canoo lifestyle vehicles" or the new VW bus EV look so cool....but they have crap like face-monitoring cameras and app-connectivity in them. What the heck.

rwhitisissle ,

This is the truth. People like to tout EVs as the end all, be all, "silver bullet" for the petrochemical industry. Bullshit. Your EV is riddled with oil-based products and asphalt contains a shitload of petrochemicals. EVs are better than gas burning cars in the same way getting stabbed with a knife is better than being shot. If you really want to help the environment by buying a car, buy a used car instead of a new one. Still, nothing really compares to just having a society where the average individual doesn't need a vehicle. I think if we had a more robust service economy structured around couriers who took care of shopping and delivery, and then had a genuinely decent public transportation system or taxi options, we'd do a lot to reduce emissions. But the car is itself a sign of affluence and personal freedom in America. Always has been; probably always will be. Ownership of one, especially an expensive one, confers a certain status, and that's a cultural problem, not an environmental or material one.

BudgetBandit ,

I save $7 per day working from home while I can listen to death metal.

shartworx ,
@shartworx@sh.itjust.works avatar

Some companies are doing it to create a hostile workplace to increase attrition. If an employee quits, they don't have to pay unemployment or severance. Other companies have huge investments in corporate real estate. They have been sitting on short-term loans that are coming due. The property owners are keeping their real-estate values artificially high, but to one wants to rent/lease them, so they aren't as valuable as in practice as they look on paper. Some companies get tax breaks from cities to put their offices there and will not continue to reap those rewards if their workers are not coming into the city. Don't let them gaslight you about culture or face time because that has all been debunked. A lot of remote workers are coming in to the office and sitting on Zoom/Teams calls in their cubicles.

melpomenesclevage ,

The dumbest most mismanaged bullshit in history.

A history that includes the fucking Bolsheviks!

protozoan_ninja ,

You think the Bolsheviks were bad, just look at the guy they replaced. He made the Bolsheviks look good!

melpomenesclevage ,

Korensky? He wasnt great, but I don't think he was as bad as those dipshits. At least he didn't murder all the communists.

protozoan_ninja , (edited )

I actually meant the tsar, and I can understand feeling bad for Kerensky (poor man must have been so confused, when all he had to do was get on a train out of Dodge as of mid-late September 1917 and anyone with an ounce of sense could have told him this), but don't hold him up as a leading light of proper management and doing shit the smart way, okay?

melpomenesclevage ,

Yeah I'm just bitter about the Bolsheviks betraying the revolution so they could be on top before it was even finished, abd doing it so completely.

Yes, monarchs were often worse, and Nick was particularly spectacular in that regard. But the USSR is sort of a recognizable legibly-modern example; they had tell communications and (shitty, because they had a chance to be decades ahead of everyone else and noped out) computers and airplanes and stuff. And while they're not the worst, they're well past the "there is no fucking excuse to suck this much" line. So that's my "worse than x" line, and I think the american empire fails on every metric.

To be clear, while I do have criticisms of centralized communism (the centralized part), I think if it were substantially at fault for how much the USSR sucked, Cuba wouldn't have lasted five seconds, much less outlived it and still squeaked by even with the spectacular bullshit challenges it face(d/s)

protozoan_ninja , (edited )

Yup, it was a shitshow. If you're a socialist, it's good to study, but maybe in the same spirit as bourgeois revolutionaries might have studied the wreckage of the French Revolution. Or, you know, in the same spirit as Marx and Engels reflecting on the failures of 1848.

INHALE_VEGETABLES ,

What the fuck kind of weyland corporation do you guys work for.

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

Literally every corporation.

Marin_Rider ,

the most unbelievable part is cubicles, no real corporations will provide that much privacy and instead force you to work open plan on a row of desks next to a random other person from another team who was also forced in for no reason

Fr0G , (edited )

I worry that the widespread acceptance of work from home without any other societal changes will increase the level of loneliness. It's a solution that has to come packaged with other quality of life enhancements or social trust is going into an even faster free fall. I wonder what a wfh/social solution would look like.

Edit: I'm not advocating for the office, I just think people like me wouldn't do very well without other changes, and I think there are more people who don't know how to make adult friends than we think. I'm not even an introvert, I just don't go to any place often enough to make friends from it.

Quadhammer ,

Fucking go outside and go to social gatherings

Fr0G ,

Most of the social gatherings I've been to have been set up with coworkers. Maybe I was conditioned by the American education system but I don't think I've ever made a friend outside of a place that we both were expected to go to consistently. I'm not very familiar with constructs outside of that if I'm honest.

Quadhammer ,

Yeah you've got to be a little outgoing to make friends sometimes. If you're not using up energy to commute it might be easier though. It would be for me

Starkstruck ,

If your only social interactions are through work, you've got a problem already.

Dhs92 ,

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Fr0G ,

Yeah, I agree. That's why I think loneliness would increase, being at work masks a pretty significant issue

Manmoth ,

It's going to result in the wholesale exportation of white collar jobs overseas. It's already underway.

bitwolf ,

You have potentially two or more hours added to your day for socializing.

Get lunch nearby, go to the park, do stuff in the evening.

If you're too isolated physically that speaks to urban sprawl and car dependency more than wfh imo

Grass ,

I have only ever had stressful social interaction at work, except for my current job where I'm generally the only one there and as long as I'm within budget whatever I say goes. That is to say the only non stressful job I have done is the one that is 99% just me with no other people and I only even need to be there because it's physical work, the odd clerical thing is done from home on a phone work profile.

Fr0G ,

Don't get me wrong I have certainly had my fair share of bad work interactions but most were benign and some became friends. Although I'm not advocating for the office, I just think people like me wouldn't do very well without other changes, and I think there are more people who don't know how to make adult friends than we think. I'm not even an introvert, I just don't go to any place often enough to make friends from it

BCsven ,

In theory if you have a circle of friends already, then social should be better with WFH because when it is quitting time you are immediately done and have more evening for social gatherings. if you recently moved cities before WFH, not having colleages might cut down chances of finding new friend groups

r00ty ,
@r00ty@kbin.life avatar

I've been working from home for over 15 years now. One thing I do not miss is the "social" aspect of the office.

Fr0G ,

That's fair, my coworkers are really the only people I talk to. I don't know how to make friends as an adult honestly. I don't think I'm the only one in this boat

RaoulDook ,

That's an issue, but it's not an issue for your job to solve for you, especially not when "solving" it would negatively impact the rest of the coworkers who prefer the benefits of WFH.

The most common advice I've seen about stuff like that is to get involved in hobbies that have clubs or groups that meet in your free time. You can try out new things or join a club about stuff you're already interested in, and you'll meet people doing stuff that you're interested in and sometimes they can become your friends.

MonkeMischief ,

I worked with the public. I was constantly stressed out and kept away from my coworkers I actually got along with. I always felt "alone in a crowd."

I'd lie if I said thoughts of self-termination never crossed my mind. Only one or two of those coworkers actually kept up with me when I left, too.

I get a little lonely at home now, but I'm with people I love, and I make time to talk to people by choice.

Quality over quantity, I'd say.

kibiz0r ,

But the company culture.

zurohki ,

The culture:

Tons of computers in identical cubicles

flashgnash ,

What a depressing sight to behold

At least it's empty

Rolive ,

Better than an open office setting.

Patches ,

Which is better still than open office "Hot Desking"

Rolive ,

Yep I know all about it. Shit sucks.

UpperBroccoli ,
@UpperBroccoli@feddit.de avatar

Obligatory

9488fcea02a9 ,

None of my coworkers drive to the office and we actually like seeing each other.... Hybrid remote work is great for us

I think 90% of the problem is people being forced to drive everywhere

joyjoy ,

Traffic would be so much better with a staggered work force. We might actually enjoy the commute.

SlopppyEngineer ,

Because of traffic, the workforce started staggering by themselves here if possible. The result was that bad traffic was spread out over the entire day instead of just two peaks in the morning and evening. Good traffic is only at night and working at night defeats the purpose of having business hours.

ECB ,

Basically just further proof that car traffic doesn't scale well. It's just an incredibly space inefficient way to get around.

melpomenesclevage ,

Or if they actually cared, they could build trains.

squid_slime ,
@squid_slime@lemm.ee avatar

Another factor is the spaces that offices take up or the power used whilst unoccupied, these space could be used for housing or maybe even industry.

Its great that no one drives to your work but this is more uncommon than common.

In conclusion: work from home is better.

MonkeMischief ,

Don't forget giant slammed parking lots! :D

Kit ,

I'd be fine with going into the office if public transportation could get me there, but it's a 15 minute drive vs 1.5 hours on the bus. And when I go into the office I just put in headphones with a YouTube documentary and don't talk to anyone. What's the point?

Minotaur ,

Honestly I think we’re going to hit a wall where we realize we need about half as many “office drones” as we have in a couple years.

So many people with office jobs drive in, sit at a desk, and do maybe 2 hours of actual work in the entire day. Or they work from home and do the same. And then they collect their 95k/year salary.

I really dunno if people are prepared for businesses to start going “wait, what are all of these people doing?” And axing their workforce and replacing most of them with AI or existing other employees

ricecake ,

The thing you're not accounting for is that work that primarily involves thought, which is what "office drones" are doing, aren't productive in the same way that physical or service jobs are.
Looking off into space thinking is part of the work. People average about four hours of productive work in an eight hour day.

The thing you can't do is get rid of half the people and then expect the other half to magically be eight hours productive per day. Businesses keep trying and weirdly it just tanks their output.

AI is not the panacea that so many people think it is. Do you feel happy when you need help with something you bought and you get an AI trying to offer you helpful articles or tips? I don't. Do you want the same level of service from the entity that controls where your paycheck gets deposited or fixed your HSA contributions?

If you definition of work is butts in chairs typing, office workers don't do too much work. But that's a very naive definition of what most office workers are actually doing.

Minotaur ,

Me thinks thou dost protest too much

teejay ,

Incredibly well said. I'm saving this.

ladfrombrad ,
@ladfrombrad@lemdro.id avatar

The thing you're not accounting for is that work that primarily involves thought, which is what "office drones" are doing

Found the office drone.

Our office drones are not "thinking" for half the day like you, and input and manipulate data. You could also include half these "managers" too who sit in an office sending emails all day, and never hit the shop floor.

ricecake ,

Given that office drone would cover any job that isn't service, manufacturing or laborer, it's not exactly surprising that you'd find one. I'm a software developer.

It's almost always best to assume that other people's jobs actually take some form of skill, because they always do. People get paid for a reason. Otherwise you fall into the trap of calling huge swaths of work "unskilled labor" and thinking they don't deserve much pay, just because they're just moving stuff around on the shop floor.

What do you think those emails the managers are sending are, if not work?

Ashe ,

You don't understand though, because it's not physical (software of any kind) and even if it is (any hardware) because you aren't constantly doing something it's not work!!

As an admin who got push back from the sales team, everyone has... Unique perspectives on what is and isn't work.

Minotaur ,

A software developer!? On Lemmy!? Say it ain’t so

ladfrombrad ,
@ladfrombrad@lemdro.id avatar

The old; how do you know someone is a software developer? Yup, they tell ya!

I think I really touched a nerve with that guy though, and it seems like they want to be an office drone instead of working from home (this is the bit where the "senior software devs + team manager" argue they need to collaborate, in person) with a nice life balance.

ladfrombrad ,
@ladfrombrad@lemdro.id avatar

I know exactly what those emails are because I have to deal with them asking me if a wagon that I'm looking at has arrived yet.

So I email them back telling them that it's arrived (they knew that already because goods-in already updated the checking in sheet) and they get to validate their job somehow by asking me, shit.

It's quite amazing how they keep their jobs.

ricecake ,

So you can dismiss someone's job because you, a person whose job it is to look at wagons, got an email you didn't see the point of?

If they have the sheet, why do they need you to work there and look at the wagon at all?

Now, I know your job definitely has more to it than looking at wagons and confirming their existence.
My point is that the person who sent the email does too. It's rare for a job to actually have no point and no work associated with it.

ladfrombrad ,
@ladfrombrad@lemdro.id avatar

Well, maybe your workplace wouldn't put up with these people but I can confirm that besides them not being able to use SAP to check the quantity of a BOM, to like I said - they have access to the other functions / data but prefer to delegate them to others.

So it ends up going down a hierarchy until someone else does what these managers could do themselves in the first instance.

ricecake ,

And they spend all their time forwarding these queries to people lower down the hierarchy and that's all they do, eh?

You should probably get a new job if your company has that much dead weight and no direction.

ladfrombrad ,
@ladfrombrad@lemdro.id avatar

Nah, I wouldn't want to become an office drone because I'd go from calling people on the internet liars to then trying to give others career advice when they don't even know 2% of my job.

Hilarious, the self-righteousness must come from being an office drone, right?

ricecake ,

Who told you to become an office worker? I said your business is fucked if all of your managers are as incompetent as you think, so change jobs. You know, like "work for a different employer who you think is competent”?

I do think it's kind of ironic that you're really indignant that someone who doesn't know what you do might judge you, when you're judging others because you don't see the point to emails they sometimes send you, and you don't know what they spend their time doing.

ladfrombrad ,
@ladfrombrad@lemdro.id avatar

My immediate manager is fine and like I said above, half of their managers could be given the chopping block but that doesn't mean I need to find new employment as you suggest. I quite like my job since I can walk it there, work outside all day with wonderful views even if the weather does get a bit poop sometimes.

In fact it tells me you're relatively sheltered with experience in workplaces if you think most places don't have lazy ass managers, office drones (I like this term), and good luck asking if they even have them during an interview.

Honytawk ,

If it is so easy to be an office drone, why weren't you able to get a job like that?

Is it maybe because it involves skills you aren't aware of?

ladfrombrad ,
@ladfrombrad@lemdro.id avatar

I once worked in an office doing what I described above.

I absolutely hated it stuck in a cubicle, and now work outside with lots of other people grafting, instead of listening to gossiping over the cubicles all day long. Think I lasted 2 months.

MonkeMischief ,

Experimental solution proposal:

  • Fire all management. They're expensive and exponentially less productive. Their stupid large offices and pricey desks also waste space.

  • (Office) workers collectively do the thing they do without being micro managed and stuffed into pointless meetings.

  • ???

  • Probably profit, actually. But then how would the "in-club" kids reap all the rewards without working? :( :( :(

ladfrombrad ,
@ladfrombrad@lemdro.id avatar

I have direct experience with the management that only work days since I work continental hours, so get to see how we run during the night without them.

Like I said, half is probably a number we could run with at my place. Sorry state of affairs.

triplenadir ,
@triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml avatar

or you could let everyone work half as many hours for the same pay, but sure why should anyone except business owners get to benefit 🙄

Minotaur ,

That would be hard to balance around all the people who actually do work 8-12 hours a day

MrVilliam ,

I don't have the kind of job that can be done remotely, but I'm all for remote work where it's possible and desired. My best friend hated working from home at the height of covid because he's an extrovert who can't really afford to go out much. Now he works from home Mondays and Fridays and I think it's kinda the best of both worlds for him. I think that employers that already have office space for workers that could effectively do their job from home should give workers a choice. Maybe hybrid workers have required scheduled days in the office just to make sure they're there to attend necessary meetings or collaborations or whatever rather than it just be them coming in when they feel like it, but the technology has caught up to allow way more flexibility than ever before. If I had a 100% desk job, I would move somewhere cheaper and never come in. I know I'm not alone there, and I think there's no reason to hold that option hostage. Covid proved that it could be done for most white collar work, and we can't let them try to squeeze that Pandora back into its box.

zcd ,

Unnecessary RTO should be outlawed

nxdefiant ,

The worst part of it is most big companies are forcing RTO to either justify the leases they don't want to pay to break, or to satisfy tax incentives agreements they made with municipalities.

In both cases, they're deciding it's better if you pay - in time, gas, car maintenance, mental health, productivity, and stress - for their business decisions that went bad instead of paying money out of their own bloated pockets.

voracitude ,

Well, having the office was nice because I like my colleagues. I'm lucky in that regard though, and as nice as it was to socialise at work, working from home is nicer. Not to mention much much cheaper by every metric. In conclusion fuck ever going back to the office, thank you for coming to my TEDx Talk.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I personally like it too, but not daily. I average 1-2 days in office now and it's healthy for me. See my coworkers, they know my name, we catch up, have our meetings, then I go home for a few days again. I've just learned everyone is different, and the company definitely shouldn't be telling people how to work, people are grownups and can decide themselves. (And if they can't, then fire them instead of punishing everyone).

However for this meme, another great way to get people off the roads would be....... trains

KGB ,

I like trains.

Rivalarrival ,

I like freight trains, but I wouldn't want to live anywhere that commuter trains would make sense.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Why in the world not? I specifically moved to be close to mine, I hate driving for my commute

Rivalarrival ,

Passenger trains can only operate efficiently in areas of extremely high population density. If I'm living somewhere serviced by trains, then everywhere I go, I'll be in a crowd.

I'm enough of an introvert that this sounds like an extraordinarily uncomfortable proposition. I'd need an exorbitant financial benefit to even consider it, and that's not going to happen. Instead, I'm expected to pay a very high premium for the "privilege" of being miserable everywhere I go.

No thanks, I'll stay out here in the sticks.

ladfrombrad ,
@ladfrombrad@lemdro.id avatar

You're absolutely spot on, and it's evidenced by house prices here in the UK where they're next to or near a rail line.

They are noisy fuggers and people do not like living by them.

ECB ,

Unless you are near a train stop when it skyrockets

ECB ,

Small towns built around a train station are absolutely lovely though

Rivalarrival ,

I suspect those are mostly outposts. Rail junctions. Water stops for the old steam trains. Remote mining towns. Places that either provided services to railway operation, or primarily needed freight service rather than passenger.

And I agree: I would love to live in a small railroad town. But I would move out long before that town had enough people to justify commuter rail service.

ECB ,

Ah, no in europe where I live is fairly normal for rail service to small villages even.

zurohki ,

Some people don't have the space at home to set up a working area and really want to just go to an office that their employer pays for, and that's fine.

flashgnash ,

This, and I do a lot of gaming on my pc, have a nice setup etc, usually not great trying to work there (don't have space for another desk and can't really justify having two sets of monitors, keyboard etc

r00ty ,
@r00ty@kbin.life avatar

Why do you need all that? I have my work laptop sitting at the back of my desk. Most monitors have two inputs. I've got an older 1080 with HMDI+DVI and a newer 1440p with DP/2xHDMI.

So I have the laptop in HDMI on both screens (it needed a USBC to HDMI cable for one of the outputs), and a simple USB3 switch for the mouse+keyboard.

So when I'm working I fire up the laptop, switch the USB over to that and swap the screens to the HDMI inputs. When I'm done working I can fire up the desktop, swap inputs and USB and in seconds I'm switched over.

I've been doing it this way for years and years now.

flashgnash ,

That's normally what I do, the problem is the context for me, I sometimes prefer just sitting across the room with a laptop so I'm in a slightly different environment

r00ty ,
@r00ty@kbin.life avatar

It can help draw a line I'd agree, but I've gotten used to it now I think. I used to have it worse. I operated out of the bedroom for the first few years I was remote and that wasn't good at all. The new house had a bedroom that was really too small to be a bedroom. So it became an office room.

BastingChemina ,

This is why coworking spaces exist.

I don't know in other countries but it is working quite well in France, you can get a subscription to the closest working space and have a desk, meeting rooms ... To work remotely.

I like that it gives a separation between home and work but without long commute.

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • •
  • memes@lemmy.ml
  • incremental_games
  • random
  • meta
  • All magazines
    •