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possiblylinux127 ,
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It would annoy me just as much to receive pro vaccine propaganda. Even the vaccine commercials annoy me.

I don't get it

Eheran ,

At least those actually save lives.

AlwaysNowNeverNotMe ,
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I just don't give a shit. I'm looking for the good mustard leave me alone.

possiblylinux127 ,
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I don't care. You shouldn't force vaccines on people.

BigMikeInAustin ,

You shouldn't force your diseases on people.

possiblylinux127 ,
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I just want the right to say no to a medical procedure

BigMikeInAustin ,

I just want to visit a major theme park without getting measles. Or get an education without getting a once-defeated debilitating disease.

possiblylinux127 ,
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Me too but I don't think it is ethical or right to force treatment on those who don't want to be treated.

Just remind your relatives to get vaccinated. You technically could even tell them that you want them to get vaccinated become coming to a family get together but you will not have any way to prove it as they aren't going to share there medical records.

FlyingSquid ,
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Who has forced you to get vaccinated?

possiblylinux127 ,
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Choose willingly to get vaccinated. However, I don't like when people have to prove there vaccination status. I also don't think it is right to tell people that there beliefs are wrong. At the end of the day a doctor should never go against a persons wishes.

Maybe its a bad take. I just think it is a slippery slope forcing the issue.

FlyingSquid ,
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I don’t like when people have to prove there vaccination status.

Has that ever happened to you or anyone you know? When and why?

I also don’t think it is right to tell people that there beliefs are wrong.

Got it. Don't let Nazis know their "kill all the black people and Jews" beliefs are wrong.

At the end of the day a doctor should never go against a persons wishes.

Has that ever happened to you or anyone you know? When and why?

BigMikeInAustin ,

And I bet you just want the right to decide which traffic laws to follow. Or which taxes to pay.

Go live on an isolated island if you don't want to integrate with society.

possiblylinux127 ,
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I do get to choose what laws to obey. In the case of traffic laws you have to get busted by the police.

Also traffic laws are a little different than metrical tech. I want to be able to opt out if I feel something is not for me. Same thing with goverment technology that tracks are collects my data.

Honytawk ,

Nah, you don't.

If you murder someone, you can't go around claiming you don't participate the law preventing murder.

And let that be exactly what the anti-vaxxers are doing when spreading a deadly disease.

Honytawk ,

Then the government has the right to say no to you participating in their society.

jettrscga ,

There's a reason everyone needs to be vaccinated.

But I don't expect you to read that because if you wanted to understand reality, you would have already.

EinfachUnersetzlich ,

You shouldn't force vaccines on people.

Are you suggesting that no children should receive vaccinations?

possiblylinux127 ,
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It should be up to the parent. With that being said, parents need to be given information about vaccines and what is recommended.

OutlierBlue ,

First you said you didn't want to receive "pro vaccine propaganda" and now you're saying parents need to be given information about vaccines.

InEnduringGrowStrong ,
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parents ahould get their information from likeminded facebook groups (totally not propaganda)

possiblylinux127 ,
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I just don't like the multimillion dollar ad campaign by vaccine companies. Surely there is a better way. Then again, it only mildly annoys me.

I'm not a ethics specialist and I am certainly not a doctor.

Honytawk ,

Then it is up to the government to prevent that disease bag from ruining society by preventing them from participating.

FlyingSquid ,
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You shouldn’t force vaccines on people.

"Good morning, sir. Would you care for this informational flyer about why you should get vaccinated?"

"DON'T YOU FORCE YOUR VACCINES ON ME!"

possiblylinux127 ,
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This is "mildly infuriating" land after all.

Honytawk ,

You'd have a point if the disease wasn't contagious.

Now, your opinion is hurting others. And it is the governments job prevent the public dying.

If you don't want to be vaccinated, don't participate in a society.

MedicPigBabySaver ,
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Shut up.

possiblylinux127 ,
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No you!

Mastengwe ,

Why did you not hand it back?

grue ,

Don't hand it back; rip it up and then apologize and ask for a second one. Then rip that one up, too.

dust_accelerator ,

This is the correct answer

Honytawk ,

Tell em you want to help their cause by handing out flyers as well.

Then just rip them up and throw them in the trash.

korny OP ,

If I handed it back to her, it would have ended up in someone else's hands. Figured I could trash it on her behalf.

cerement ,
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very blatantly, right in front of her, wipe your hands with sanitizer and then wipe down the flyer …

EDIT: “Oh, this isn’t for the virus, y’all just nasty.”

Kolanaki ,
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"I got the vaccine and nothing bad happen to m-" start convulsing and making gross sounds while dropping to the ground

"Ahhh! The 5G! It buuuurns!"

possiblylinux127 ,
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I wonder if you could convince one of these people of something even more crazy.

HikingVet ,

Depends on whether you frame it in a way that appeals to them.

AlwaysNowNeverNotMe ,
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Once I got into it with a flat earther and they started spouting some shit about how the phases of the moon proved the earth was flat, I just cackled and said "You believe in the moon?"

possiblylinux127 ,
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When you are on the first date and she starts talking

Honytawk ,

"Haha, you think masks are real?"

Sanctus , (edited )
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When that stupid PSA warning came through that conspiracy theorists said would "activate" the vaccine I was in my MAGAt infested office. I fell to the floor and screamed "The vaccine!" as soon as I heard everyone's phones go off.

hperrin ,

Jesus Christ. That’s so much misinformation in just two sheets of paper.

kromem ,

It's the back and front of a single sheet of paper.

hperrin ,

Even more.. um.. impressive?

smileyhead ,

Some Android Phones might need a QR SCANNER app to open these

🤦

Emerald ,

Must be made by an old person lol

DessertStorms , (edited )

This is far more than mildly infuriating, this is actively putting peoples lives at risk, it's enraging and quite scary, and why disabled and other vulnerable people are continuing to be more isolated than ever.

Fuck this person and the bullshit they spread. I rarely leave the house, but if I did and someone handed me something like this I'd grab the whole pile and set it on fire, casually roll over their feet with my wheelchair on my way, too (E: actually, scratch that, I wouldn't want to get that close to the disease vector, even with my mask on).

FordBeeblebrox ,

I’ve had it twice now and don’t mind getting close, otherwise agreed on all counts. Let’s hide the accelerant fairy juice under your chair, you can be getaway driver with clean hands. Tell me you have a rad van with wheel controls

DessertStorms ,

Alas, no van, but plenty of spots to hold lighter fluid and stolen flyers as I roll away lol

fmstrat ,

Report her to the store for solicitation. Owners hate that, even if they agree with the sentiment. Can't scare away the customers.

chatokun ,

Yeah, Jehovah's Witnesses know to wait till someone is coming out rather than inside or heading in for this very reason.

Veedem ,
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I’d be more annoyed that this person couldn’t even bother me with a more up to date conspiracy.

scrubbles ,
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Right? They're still triggered about masks?

FordBeeblebrox ,

Masks trap CO2 and other gases, impeding the breathing process and killing you slowly

…apparently at least 3 years slow, we’ll check back in with Cletus and his sisters(?) next spring.

scrubbles ,
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Like how my vaccine was going to liquify me in 2 years. Then 3. Now 5.

FordBeeblebrox ,

Whenever I’m driving and the song on Apple Music pauses to buffer, I pull over and call Bill Gates to ask why the 5g in my vaccine isn’t boosting the signal

mkhopper ,
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Funny how surgeons don't seem to have the problems this flyer describes.
And I better not open this person's closet and find a single scarf.

How anyone can still believe this shit just confounds me.

zaphod ,
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Not funny once you realize all doctors are actually lizard people in human skin suits performing experiments on us. QED sucker!

FlyingSquid ,
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House painters don't have the problems this flyer describes.

SomeoneElse ,

I’m high risk as I’m immunosuppressed. I’ve had 8 vaccines, shielded for well over a year and always wore a mask. I finally caught COVID last week. There’s not a doubt in my mind that I would have died already if I hadn’t been vaccinated. My oxygen saturation levels just keep dropping - 90% today. I’m going to have to go to hospital ☹️

birbs ,

Best of luck, get well soon

BlackRoseAmongThorns ,

Must be devastating, take care, friend.

FlyingSquid ,
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I'm so sorry to hear it! I'm rooting for you and I know lots of other people are too!

dan1101 ,
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Some people have too much free time and too few brain cells.

DoctorWhookah ,

All that mask wearing in their youth killed those cells.

tills13 ,

And not enough access to credible sources

grue ,

No, they've got plenty of access. They just don't want to be exposed to anything that challenges their indoctrination.

sep ,

While that may be true. The filter bubble is also a very real thing.
Social media sites earn their money by your attention. And try to keep it as long as possible, with all the tricks in the books, and some they invented.
So when someone belives something. They search about it. And belive they have done research. When they find what the site belive keeps them engaged.

Want to know more? sorry, been playing to much helldivers 2. ;)
https://www.ted.com/playlists/470/how_to_pop_our_filter_bubbles

The science is not conclusive tho. Perhaps i am in a bubble... messes with the head..

FordBeeblebrox ,

Some have medical degrees and will actively ignore anything that doesn’t fit with the Jeebus.

Religion and capitalism will be the legacy humans leave behind and it’s a shit one

Carighan ,
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Or rather too much access to too many non-credible sources.

Meaning, we need to remove shit like Twitter from the net already.

dutchkimble ,

And too many QR codes

nogooduser ,

I like how page 1 says not to wear masks because they are bad put page 2 implies that you must wear a mask because getting the vaccine won’t allow you to not wear masks.

RagnarokOnline ,

I mean, that survey on the back isn’t lying, per se, but it’s taking things that are only minorly concerning and stating them in a way that is overblown or more alarming than they deserve.

“The best lies are based in truth”, I suppose.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

What? Starting with the first one, thats already a lie. So is the third, they just don't understand what long-term means.

bjorney ,

A couple of them fall into the "technically true, but misleading territory" - I'm sure the person handing this out couldn't identify which though - broken clock right twice a day and all

"Can you reverse effects" - no you can't make your immune system forget how to work. Probably not what they are going for here though.

"Risk of [...] or other side effects?" - yeah the vaccines generally give people a headache and short lived fever symptoms

"Have there been deaths?" - The astrazeneca vaccine had like a 0.000001% mortality risk (more likely to die driving to the pharmacy), and was pulled in many countries because that was deemed too dangerous. Person handing out the flyer has likely been parroting "mRNA vaccines cause blood clots" nonsense for years while being completely unaware that AZ was a traditional viral vector vaccine

"Are there doctors recommending NOT taking it" - yeah, there are many notable anti-vaccine doctors, what they typically have in common is they earned their doctorate in computer science, social studies, or some other field that gives them no qualifications to talk about immunology

HubertManne ,
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I hate this type of stuff because it will work of off something like. masks impeded airflow. well yeah. thats the point. but you would have to be extrememly frail for it to effect you. Like on the level where you need supplementary oxygen even without a mask or just shy.

msage ,

Wasn't the immunity against covid relatively short-lived? I remember something about even getting covid not building long-term resistance, so that would mean that even the vaccine did reverse its effect at some point.

What I absolutely despise, and my own friend brought up in an online conversation, was the abortion embryos.

He claimed abortion clinics everywhere were a conspiracy to harvest matter for the vaccines, all government controlled.

After nagging him a lot, he provided a link from which he wanted to prove his claim.

Surprise surprise, the journalistic piece only said there were cells used to develop the vaccine, mostly for testing, from a single embryo from like 1970s.

We are both from Europe btw.

sndmn ,

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    RagnarokOnline ,

    I think you’re right :(

    Gabu ,

    Did you rightfully call her a brainless worm?

    boatsnhos931 ,

    U got ne dat baby blud homes? I pay extra if it minority blood, that extra suffering and agony is FIYA

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