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Twitter/x.com is now forcing you to disable Firefox's Enhance Tracking Protection.

Firefox’s Enhanced Tracking Protection (Strict Mode) is known to cause issues on x.com

There were no "issues"; everything was working completely fine. This is a deliberate decision to force people to turn off tracking protection.

I saw a recommendation to use Firefox's container extension https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers, but it's disabled in private browsing windows, and I always use private browsing windows.

card797 ,

Me and my homies never used twitter in the first place.

crispy_kilt ,

My homies and I*

riodoro1 ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/458ec054-b9fb-48be-85b2-341c0ca49207.jpeg

card797 ,

Pardon me, but do you have any Grey Poupon?

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Microsoft teams also stopped working on Firefox... Guess they don't like the tracking prevention stuff. :)

swordgeek ,

Teams doesn't work in the first place.

geography082 ,

The question is, why there still people using this shit ?

Zak , (edited )
@Zak@lemmy.world avatar

People are still using that shit because other people they want to interact with are still using that shit. Network effects are hard to break.

I occasionally use it to complain at corporations, mostly when their websites show me captchas but occasionally for other customer service issues.

moitoi ,
@moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Depending on the research subject, people built networks on Twitter. It's hard to move on another platform as you will loose your network.

acetanilide ,

Agreed, it's unfortunate that some people rely on it for work.

Personally I only go on there unintentionally when I don't look at the link I am clicking on beforehand

harrys_balzac ,

Same reasons why people still use Facebook - too many folks who think it's still a good thing.

ALostInquirer ,

Do people think it's a good thing, or simply the thing where those they know are?

RememberTheApollo_ ,

This. I know FB/Meta is awful, but I have a ton of hobby and interest groups I participate in on the platform. So that’s why I stay. However, I have all sorts of browser add-ons that strip the site of all kinds of trackers, suggestions, and all sorts of annoyances. My FB is closer to FB a decade+ ago than what a “normal” user sees.

ALostInquirer ,

Do the add-ons you use specifically target Facebook? If so, what are you using to mitigate its manipulative/predatory designs?

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Some. Other than basic anti-tracking add ons, Facebook Container is one, and so is Social Media Fixer, which will block whatever you tell it to on FB. I block all “suggested for you” as a keyword and it removes so much junk from FB. I have a couple more I think that help FB be more like its old self, but unfortunately I’m not home and can’t look them up right now on mobile.

EvolvedTurtle ,

I'm honestly just there for Facebook marketplace

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

tbh as a trans person, facebook groups are pretty great. i've been some awesome trans people there that i still communicate with. also there's a good book community in groups too. groups are great at isolating you from the weird conspiracy theory public content in comments.

Ilandar ,

groups are great at isolating you from the weird conspiracy theory public content in comments.

Joining groups is actually what drives people into those conspiracy black holes because of the way the recommendation algorithm is designed. It will recommended you more and more extreme groups because they are what keeps people using the platform for longer.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

maybe i'm just lucky cause all mine are ttrpgs, books, sapphics, and trans people.

Ilandar ,

Depends whether you're relying on the algorithm (recommendations) to find new groups or whether you're manually searching for and vetting these groups yourself. If it's the latter then it's not luck, that's a safe and smart approach to take with social media.

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

Because of inertia. There are entire industries that were built around Twitter. For years, it was an incredible networking opportunity that you were missing out on if you weren’t active. For example, many artists used twitter for discoverability; They could post their art on Twitter, and it would get much broader reach than on other social networks.

This is why substitutes like Mastodon have struggled to take off, and it’s why even the early adopters still crosspost everything to both twitter and Mastodon. Mastodon simply doesn’t have the user base required to have that same kind of discoverability. It would need to reach a critical mass level where it’s able to sustain itself without twitter. And it’s unfortunately not there.

Whether it will ever reach that point is up for debate; The same way Reddit’s scummy practices were a huge boon for lemmy, only time will tell if the same will happen to twitter. The issue is that the vast majority of users simply don’t care about a negative experience on the site. Sure, there are vocal critics, but those are often the minority who are extremely incensed and will be the most likely to change. But once those critics have fled, the vast majority still remains on twitter and now there aren’t any critics pushing for change.

Snapz ,

Interesting. https://youtu.be/rPt9hAC24MI?feature=shared

suction ,

Such an easy solution for that. Don’t use the Nazi chat

BehindTheBarrier ,

I disabled my adblock for Twitter to see a update about game server maintenance. It showed me random posts, nothing from this year. Literally unusable site when you can't even see the latest tweets. Had to have other people tell me maintenance was extended...

airportline ,
@airportline@lemmy.ml avatar

God I can't wait for that website to die already

tahoe ,

I feel like people will still be saying this in ten years (sadly)

waz ,

Maybe it'll be the next MySpace?

urquell ,

Is that not dead yet?

danc4498 ,

Them forcing me to log in was enough for me to stop visiting that website.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Forcing you

They can't make you

ultratiem ,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

The real question is why people are still using that dumpster fire of a website.

airportline ,
@airportline@lemmy.ml avatar

To answer your question, it's inertia. People need to be forced of Twitter if before they join Mastodon/Bluesky/Threads

MeetInPotatoes ,

I use it to scream into the void and be completely uncivil because I'm civil and soft-spoken in the rest of life. In other words, I go to the dumpster when I feel like treating Trump supporters like trash :)

anothermember ,

Nobody sane wants to "use" it, but sometimes someone will inconsiderately link something on there.

eee ,

This is a feature, not a bug. It's designed to wean you off using twitter.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i have no idea why people who are concerned about privacy would use anything associated with elon musk.

HEXN3T ,
@HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The Gods forbid I try to literally read something

The real question is why people keep using Twitter despite how impossible it is to even visit the website

Dudewitbow ,

because unlike lemmy where its usually about following topics, twitter is about following people, and migration requires said people who theyre following to also migrate

HEXN3T ,
@HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

While this is true, I think if this is a hassle for most people, then something is very wrong with the world

nintendiator ,

Until the creators of the content you need switch, it's one of if not the hub where the content is.

This would be easy to "solve" from the reader end if Nitter was still operational, but I haven't heard from the project or from any alternative in ages.

settoloki ,

If you stop going to twitter to see the content, the creators would be forced to move. How important can the content be?

knightly ,
@knightly@pawb.social avatar

Dunno! I haven't been to Twitter since Elon bought it and activated our scorched-earth protocols. Twitter hasn't been accessible on any device in our network since then.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

nitter.poast.org still works!

WalnutLum ,

The project was using a way to bypass requiring a backing account to proxy the requests, but the API update broke that

The instances that chose (and choose) to go the extra mile by creating and maintaining proxy account(s) are the ones still working

If the instance gets too popular the twitter goons quickly figure out what the proxy account is and ban it, though. So it's a constant game of cat and mouse.

nintendiator ,

I see. That sucks.

dev_null ,

Every so often someone posts something on Lemmy or somewhere else which contains a Twitter link that's interesting or relevant, and so there is value in me visiting it. Just because I don't "use" Twitter doesn't mean I don't end up reading a Twitter post every so often, because other people use it.

Zerush ,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

X can't avoid to seeing a growing amount of middlefingers, at least in the EU.

cyrus ,
@cyrus@sopuli.xyz avatar

This is a deliberate decision to force people to turn off tracking protection.

No this is a hilarious fuckup where they forgot to move twitter.com, pbs.twimg.com and more off of the Twitter domains, so Firefox started blocking it because to Firefox it looks like Social Media trackers.

Mozilla already pushed a fix.

brbposting ,

Why would anybody test that first in QA anyway?

BananaOnionJuice ,
@BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yeah Elon is a shoot first kind of guy anyways.

Barbarian ,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Every software project, without exception, has a testing environment.

Some even have a separate production environment too.

Aceticon ,

Oh you sweet summer child...

Barbarian ,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/6eb244b5-8f00-4121-9399-8ffe148c08e1.jpeg

Aceticon ,

Welcome to the Internet, were you can never be sure if Satire is Satire or somebody's genuine opinion until they confirm it's the former using a meme.

brbposting ,

You’re right about that in many cases.

That post? It two sentences.

Second sentence is a joke that couldn’t be taken seriously. As if it were a knock knock joke or something. …right?!

Aceticon ,

Somebody who is not a software developer or is a junior one who only ever worked in one or two major projects and got lucky (really depends on the country and the industry) might believe it.

It's hardly unusual for people who only ever worked in one place to think everything is like that, and some of those do get lucky (not all software development environments out there are like the US Tech Industry) and end up right after Uni in a place with some good senior techies that make sure environments are properly set up.

Also in-house development in industries were software is mission critical and new versions breaking Production might result in massive losses or death (for example, Finance) always have proper Testing and Staging environments - you don't really want to lose millions of dollars (possibly hundreds of millions if unlucky) by having all the traders in a Trading Floor twidling their thumbs because somebody didn't do, before pushing to Production, proper integration testing in Staging of some comms protocol changes done for two different systems.

brbposting ,

Wow, guess you’re right! Thanks for the insight :)

Barbarian ,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

I agree with everything you say here, but I thought the setup-payoff joke structure and the fact I intentionally swapped testing and production for comedic effect made it obvious enough. I guess Poe's law strikes again.

joyjoy ,

And some projects only test in Chrome. If we're lucky, they test in Firefox with default settings.

JokeDeity ,

Twitter is the second worst app in existence only behind Snapchat.

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