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UserMeNever ,

WTF?

brie ,

Is there a picture of what this actually looks / would look like? Honestly, although it is going down a bad path, it isn't actually all that surprising. Firefox already has sponsored address bar suggestions by default.

belated_frog_pants ,

Librewolf

majestictechie , (edited )

I found its privacy settings too restrictive. I ended up moving to Floorp which is much closer to the Vanilla FF

hamsterkill ,

This appears to be an experimental initiative within Mozilla right now. It's not available to the public and may never be if it doesn't pass muster for them.

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/share-your-thoughts-on-how-you-shop-online/td-p/43015
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/the-future-of-shopping/

Fizz ,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

I can live with ads but I'd prefer to pay a few dollars a year instead. I already support Mozilla through relay.

sunbeam60 ,

The problem is Mozilla started thinking about itself as a company, with its massive revenue from Google.

It isn’t. Firefox was most alive and most growing when it was still a grassroots initiative to build a better web browser.

When they go back to that - or someone forks and creates a charity with one sole focus (a great browser) I’ll start supporting them. I just don’t think Mozilla needs this size of org to build a better browser and and now they’re trying to do a bunch a crap I’m not interested in to justify their org size. They’ve got it back to front.

And I say this as a lifelong Firefox user.

Bitrot ,
@Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The Mozilla Corporation is a for-profit company founded in 2005 by the Mozilla Foundation. I think part of the problem is more people don’t realize this. It’s the same reason you can’t donate to Firefox development, donations to “Mozilla” go to the Mozilla Foundation, not the company that builds Firefox.

t3rmit3 , (edited )

Yes, but the profits of Mozilla Corporation are all owned by the Mozilla Foundation, which has to adhere to all the usual 501.c3 rules about spending (i.e. it must be in furtherance of the stated mission of the org).

Bitrot , (edited )
@Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The profits are owned by the Corporation, which is why the Corporation does all the crazy spending and paying millions to executives, because as long as there is enough separation what they do internally does not affect the tax situation of the Foundation. After the for-profit pays taxes, the non-profit can get dividends and other payments from them, but it is not just a way to wash away tax from all the money.

The Corporation acts like a company because it is one. This is different than Konqueror, Epiphany, or most of the Firefox forks.

saigot ,

If you don't use the "review checker" feature, which I didn't know existed until now, you will be unaffected by this change.

kbal ,
@kbal@kbin.melroy.org avatar

It seems highly likely that you have mischaracterized the meaning of browser.shopping.experience2023.ads.userEnabled but it doesn't matter. The mere existence of browser.shopping.experience2023.ads.userEnabled is damning enough on its own.

UNIX84 ,

I remember the last few versions of Netscape Communicator had a "Shop" button.

This was the sign that Netscape had lost the browser war and was giving up.

BCsven ,

I remember the Amazon icon on Ubuntu. It is why I initially gave up on Linux after the first install...like WTF I don't want Amazon in this new to me OS.

perishthethought ,

That bugzilla page says they targeted version 122 for this change. I have Firefox 122 on my PC and when I look at the about:config page, that setting is still set to False. I think y'all are freaking out about a very small thing.

If you use Firefox, and you check your about:config page and you see true for that setting, then just change it to false and go about your day.

Or are we all just talking philosophically about this?

explodicle ,

Sure, you can change literally everything about Firefox if you pay a time cost. The defaults do matter because that's one more thing to fix when installing it. We could say this about any negative feature.

Catsrules ,

With Firefox sync you only ever have to do it once.

Firefox is a super easy install for me.
Install login and all of my settings auto apply.

perishthethought ,

I agree with all of that. 👍

I just didn't see anyone else addressing where the change lives in the browser and how to un-do it if you want to opt out.

joyjoy ,

Don't they already do this with Firefox Suggest?

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

ill be happy to be wrong, but there is no alternative. if we dont support firefox; were all fucked.

debanqued ,

Hence why we need a public option.

HeyLow ,

Pale Moon is the only alternative I can think of, it's independent of Gecko and FF

miracleorange ,

Last I heard, which was admittedly a long time ago, Pale Moon was dangerously out of date with respect to security and web standards and not much more than a meme. I feel like I remember a significant change in leadership relatively recently, but has Pale Moon actually become a viable alternative?

Beyond that, WebKit is still a thing. Ladybird is too though it's still quite a ways from primetime.

Quexotic ,
@Quexotic@beehaw.org avatar

Maybe I'm too much of a goof but I haven't noticed any ads and I haven't found any way to turn them off either. Is this only in the desktop version or is it also in the mobile version? Normally I just use the mobile version.

Engywuck ,

Interesting... What would people shitting on other browsers for offering OPT-IN ads do now?

Oh, wait. Mozilla can do no wrong /s

Nothing to see here.

redcalcium ,

The tech communities are trying their hardest to get people to switch to Firefox. Meanwhile Mozilla is trying its hardest to get people off Firefox with decisions like this.

anachronist ,

The purpose of Mozilla is to kill Firefox. That's what Google is paying for.

Eyck_of_denesle ,

Is this because of the new ceo?

nix ,
@nix@merv.news avatar

Waterfox is a good fork to move to

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