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MSids ,

Chaotic me wishes they would kill Gmail. The next handful of cool things would surface from the ashes and I could finally cut ties with big G.

callouscomic ,

Next week: "Google scrapping gmail."

A_Random_Idiot , (edited )
@A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world avatar

exactly my thought.

"They are saying its here to stay, which means people should get their data off it asap"

InternetUser2012 ,

100%

echodot ,

I doubt it. It's free data, they ain't getting rid of that.

lud ,

It's not free though. Running an email service is not cheap.

echodot ,

Trust me they make way more money by running the service then it costs to run especially considering that everything is now in house. They own their own servers.

lud ,

It's absolutely not free like you said though.

echodot ,

It's free for you. I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to make.

nucleative ,

Google almost killed Gmail for me - I'm on a deprecated google apps free family plan they tried to kill recently. It was going to cost over a hundred dollars a month to move everyone on my personal family domain to a professional plan to keep it, and at the last minute they retreated and kept it free.

But for me that was a warning shot I can't ignore. Way back I ran a Microsoft Exchange server for the family, before that postfix with squirrelmail. But I'm tired of all the tech support that came with it, so some kind of permanent, relatively spam free email option that we call rely on for decades would be welcome.

Scrollone ,

ProtonMail has a family plan, and they promise to encrypt your emails.

PurelyMail is nice and super cheap, the only downside is that it's run by a single guy.

Zoho is like 10 dollars per year per user, even though it's geared towards companies and not families.

daq ,

Proton is way too overpriced for older accounts with a lot of stuff accumulated and encryption is a gimmick unless you're only communicating with other Proton users. All companies encrypt email at rest.

I'm currently using and can definitely recommend purely mail. Obviously backup, but so far the service has been excellent. It's the only fairly priced service out there for personal hosting that supports custom domains.

wax ,

Recently moved to protonmail. The setup was fairly easy, with proton copying all the mails over and setting up forwarding from gmail. I've started to gradually change accounts over. Decided to subscribe as well, even though could manage without.

Scrollone ,

If you buy a custom domain then you won't have to worry in the future, you will be able to switch mail provider without changing your email on any service you use

wax ,

That's a good point. I've considered it before, but always struggle with coming up with a domain name. Also, with respect to tracking a personal domain means that anyone can check the registrar information to find full name, address etc?

Scrollone ,

Many registrars let you hide your personal data from public whois.

In the past I used to suggest Gandi as a good service, but they've been recently bought by a horrible company and they jacked up their prices.

Now I suggest Porkbun! I'm very happy with their service.

wax ,

Alright, will consider it, thanks for the recommendation!

sleepmode ,

I'm finishing up moving all my accounts to Proton. I don't trust them at all anymore. Late stage capitalism at its finest.

aeharding ,
@aeharding@lemmy.world avatar

I fully expect GMail to be enshittified in the future.

"GMail through gmail.com and GMail App: Always Free"

"GMail Pro (IMAP/POP/Forwarding): Only $3.99 / mo"

prashanthvsdvn ,

Don’t give them ideas

SkippingRelax ,

I couldn't stand pop3 25 years ago, I can't believe it's still around

puppy ,

The only reason I'm locked into Google is Gmail. If that goes away, I'll purge everything Google from my life in a heartbeat.

Masamune ,

It's here to stay....for only $3.99 per month! *

*cost for monthly subscription only. Excludes fees for sending and receiving messages. Chat and others services extra.

Anyone want to take a bet, this is where we will be in 5 years?

ilinamorato ,

Nah, they want to keep the data pipe wide open. Everything that can get you to voluntarily put your data into their service they'll leave as free as air.

Plus, Gmail has the added bonus of being like a supermarket loyalty card: it gets their name into your browser toolbar and daily routine for bonus psychological impact.

I doubt they'll give any of that up for a paltry $3.99.

himmyguap ,

Gmail is untouchable. That more than any other product has kept me tethered to Google since 2004. That being said I wouldn't be surprised if some greedy, future regime at Google botches it up.

Shadywack ,
@Shadywack@lemmy.world avatar

I already moved over to Proton in anticipation of Google charging for Gmail. It's untouchable as far as longevity, but it's going to be majorly enshittifiedto the point that leaving it will be more desirable than staying.

Burn_The_Right ,

I am in the process of moving to Proton now. It's way easier than I though it was going to be!

scituselectrum ,

May I ask what steps you followed to make the transition smooth? I've been meaning to use proton + simplelogin, but I'm concerned it'll quickly become a time sink to transition from one service to the other.

Clandestine ,

1: Register a new Proton account

2: Set up email forwarding from Gmail to Proton

3: Add a filter that labels all Mail incoming to Gmail with a Gmail label.

4: Whenever you feel like it, go to some of your Gmail labeled mail and change the registered mail to Proton etc.

I'd still recommend buying your own domain though, it took me less than 15 mins switching completely from Skiff to Proton, and I didn't have to reregister anything. Only when you have a costum domain you're truly serviceprovider-independent.

Scrollone ,

I second the custom domain part.

It's easy to setup and it doesn't lock you to any single provider, in case you want to change in the future

dutchkimble ,

They need it for AI training I guess

Jourei ,

Killing Gmail would be like killing search or youtube, they would NOT dare.

Dozzi92 ,
@Dozzi92@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I'd drop Fi, Pixle, and use of Google in a second. Gmail is the backbone of everything Google is. Had it since day 1 and will have it until it disappears, and then I will disappear into the woods forever.

Toribor , (edited )
@Toribor@corndog.social avatar

I don't know if it's still there but a couple years ago poking around in gmail settings I was able to find that there was still a section for inviting new users to the gmail beta. I had 97/100 invites remaining. Been like that for almost 20 years now which is crazy.

Dozzi92 ,
@Dozzi92@lemmy.world avatar

Ha, wish I could find that. I remember inviting people left and right at first, felt like opening a new world. Chain mails that you scrolled we're still a thing, so email needed an upgrade from the hotmails and yahoos.

SkippingRelax ,

And they were giving you something like 1gb of space for free. At the time unwashed working for a big international company and employees quota for emails was something like 50mb!

I wish there were still players like Google was 20 years ago instead these days all we get ate short videos and same day delivery (oh and llms that create funny images with weird fingers)

fne8w2ah ,

Ain't nobody killing off the golden goose!

Scrollone ,

Oh well, it doesn't feel like Google Search is going that well. Searching on Google now feels like shit.

pyre ,

see if they were even remotely trustworthy or even rational no one would ever even entertain the possibility of Gmail being discontinued. for any other party this would be laughable. with Google it's plausible.

Showroom7561 ,

Next week: Fires 60% of the gmail staff

squirrel ,
@squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The week after: Google introduces AI Mail that will receive and automatically respond to all mail. This will happen without the users' consent or knowledge. In fact, users won't be able to access their mail anymore at all "for security reasons".

foo ,

Charge you 1/10th of a cent for each automatically generated email

Pulptastic ,

For now.

Sometimes those rumors are spread by the OG to test the waters....

GiddyGap ,

One thing that's very clear to me is that when a tech company says something is "here to stay," it doesn't actually mean it's here to stay.

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