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TheObviousSolution ,

It really depends. If by "offering 40-60 more miles" he means being able to fully deplete or charge your EV battery, that's a good way of bringing down its longevity. A particularly scummy CEO might first hard lock your EV battery buffer so they don't have to deal with insurance on battery degradation complaints, and only after it's out of insurance coverage they would remove those locks to accelerate how fast your EV battery degrades, which generally tends to cost about as much as a new car to replace.

buzz86us ,

I'd be game for ads if it took $5k off sticker lol

Hugh_Jeggs ,

And therein lies the problem ☝️

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Cars are fucking expensive.

Would I take a $5k discount on a vehicle for Ads-In-Vehicle? Absolutely.

Would I then invest less-than-$5k in DIY aftermarket ad-block? Absolutely.

Hugh_Jeggs ,

If you think a shitty company like Tesla wouldn't instantly stop your car from working if you did that, you're even more gullible than your comment suggests

If 5k is the difference between a car you wouldn't buy and a car you would buy, you need to buy a car you can afford, not a car you want

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

If you think a shitty company like Tesla wouldn’t instantly stop your car from working if you did that

Presumably, the hack would involve segregating the car from the Tesla network and disabling any auto-lock feature. Otherwise, sure, its not worth much as a hack.,

But we've solved this problem in DRM-locked video games for decades. We've even got pirated backend servers, for hosting illicit versions of MMORPGs. This isn't an unsolvable problem. It isn't even an unsolved problem.

If 5k is the difference between a car you wouldn’t buy and a car you would buy, you need to buy a car you can afford

Particularly for low end models, $5k translates to a lot of car. The difference between a $10k vehicle and a $15k vehicle is substantial.

Hugh_Jeggs ,

10k car go brrrr

15k car go brrrr

🤷

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

But which one's A/C still works?

Hugh_Jeggs ,

The ones you buy in the EU 😂😂😂

buzz86us ,

Atleast you have the Dacia Spring

Fedizen ,

Letting rich people have access to the internet was a mistake. This shit is begging for regulation.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Meanwhile my old car works fine and doesn't need a subscription

GiddyGap ,

Mine does, too. But I'm interested in moving to an EV for the sake of the environment and the planet. Not necessarily a Tesla, though.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

From what I can tell they all have issues. Some more than others though

GiddyGap ,

It's important to do my part for the environment, even if it comes at a cost. I'm willing to deal with some initial issues since it's a newer technology.

TheEighthDoctor ,

Conversions are a thing and they are looking more and more like a better option

bitwolf ,

All this BS Tesla pulls, I'm surprised no one has published a Tesla "jailbreak" yet.

Johnmannesca ,
@Johnmannesca@lemmy.world avatar

Hackers had figured out how to utilize bluetooth exploits at Pwn2ownp, but I'm pretty sure an event that public has led them to patch that particular vulnerability.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

They have I'm pretty sure. It just is a immediate DMCA

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Tesla Hackers Permanently Jailbreak Paywalled Features

A team of four hackers put an end to Tesla's microtransaction-style features via a security chip exploit.

rsuri ,

As productivity increases, artificial scarcity becomes necessary to maintain pre-existing levels of inequality.

GBU_28 ,

Holy shit he really did the sleep(30) trick

Burn_The_Right ,

"Pay me more for the thing you already bought, or I will leave you stranded." -Elon

Oderus ,
@Oderus@lemmy.world avatar

Also, Broadcom with VMware products. Fuck those pricks.

Quexotic ,

Time to root your Tersler!

Delusional ,

Root = sell

Quexotic ,

Based

Siegfried ,

Do they hold any value?

bitwolf ,

From what I have noticed possibly. However there is awareness being raised that you could buy used and shortly after get hit with a 20k battery repair bill.

They're not at all designed to be sold used IMO. Rather they are designed to be recycled and resold through Tesla.

ButtermilkBiscuit , (edited )

During COVID and in the immediate years after their production started used Tesla held value well. Now, their values are dropping off a cliff. They're depreciating on par with used luxury vehicles. I suspect that as people continue to have battery failures as the fleet ages, their prices will drop even more sharply. Be careful buying a used EV.

gianni ,

During COVID and in the immediate years after their production started used Tesla held value well.

This was the case for all vehicles at the time due to the supply chain shortages.

tabular ,
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

I know jailbreak refers more to rooting Apple phones but I think it's a better term than root as it points out you're not in control of your own hardware. You "break out of jail" to gain (software) freedom.

Quexotic ,

I happily concede!

tabular ,
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

"Software-locked" is a weird way to say you need to install Linux to get it all working properly.

Grippler ,

Then it just gets "driver locked" because of some weird hardware compatibility issue with linux and you have to spend hours debugging and searching for a fix before you can drive.

Adanisi ,
@Adanisi@lemmy.zip avatar

What an original, modern, accurate joke

Grippler ,

Obviously not original, but unfortunately still accurate. I still have driver issues on many laptops running linux, especially with BT, touchpads and WiFi.

Ghostalmedia ,
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Good news is that now people have decent options for non-Tesla EVs.

Now we just need to make sure those cars have access to widespread and reliable charging. NACS is a good start, but NACS cars will only have access to less than a third of Telsa’s network.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

it's a car. it's not an app. stop trying to apply subscriptions to everything. it's wasteful to have unnecessary bloat for features people don't want.

barsquid ,

We, as an entire society, will have to stop paying for any of this shit to make that happen.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah there would have to be a total psychological shift for society to fight the marketing

Bizarroland ,

Maybe we should write an open letter to our senators and congressman and request that they draft legislation to make it illegal for hardware vendors to software lock hardware capabilities behind a paywall.

If I buy a $100,000 vehicle I shouldn't have to pay 50 60 80 100 $200 a month to utilize the features that are built into the physical hardware of the vehicle I have purchased.

I can understand a fee for internet access or for premium radio subscriptions or something but not to use the heated seats and battery life that is physically built into the vehicle I purchased.

barsquid ,

I agree with you but I am cynical that letters expressing what constituents want will be heard above the cash registers ringing from taking in lobbyists' donations.

Bizarroland ,

Reminder that the people most affected by this would be the kind of people who can afford a $100,000 vehicle.

And the stingiest people on the planet are the rich.

I don't think it would be too crazy to rely on that to help draft pro consumer legislation.

john89 ,

Maybe we should write an open letter to our senators and congressman

This has never, and will never work.

I don't know why you people keep suggesting it.

We need to actually elect people who care about us, but they're usually the ones in third parties.

Seleni ,

It works for good congressmen. I know Oregon’s congressmen have cited those letters and calls as reasons for their actions on policies.

JJROKCZ ,

Maybe we, as a society of workers, simply eat the rich? Or at least feed them to hounds

ShittyBeatlesFCPres ,

Well, at least there’s no rare earth metals in Tesla batteries that are sourced from countries with exploitative labor practices. Might as well waste a few to create an artificially shittier product.

Jaysyn ,
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

Absolute garbage.

I hope someone hacks this, makes it free & makes applying it as easy as changing a channel on your TV.

noodlejetski ,

Tesla section on XDA forums when

shortwavesurfer ,

Is xda still a real player? Last i saw of it it was becoming a shell and shit was dumbly moving to telegram (bleh)

dinckelman ,

The forum structure is a complete shitshow, so if your device isn't the prime target for mods, it's very uncomfortable to use

fossphi ,

It's such a sadness, it was so useful and (kinda) decently organised. I don't wanna go looking to shady telegram groups and stuff. And they're not indexable by search engines!

kayaven ,
@kayaven@lemmy.world avatar

Your warranty is now void. I am not responsible for bricked devices, flat tires, an empty fuel tank, or you getting fired because the fart app goes off at random. Please do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.

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