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EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I disabled all my adblockers except for adnauseam with strict blocking and now youtube is running really fast.

Adnauseam is the best because it clicks all the ads it blocks, making the anti-adblock bullshit think you're clicking on ads.

Getting it on a chromium based browser is a little bit of a chore, but it's well worth it, because no other adblocker works consistently

GilgameshCatBeard ,

It’s baffling to me, how many people complain about YouTube- and continue to use YouTube. At this rate, they could murder your families and you’d still give them business.

JUST STOP USING YOUTUBE.

Leate_Wonceslace ,
@Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

"Just stop buying food from the only place that sells food you like."

GilgameshCatBeard ,

YouTube isn’t life sustaining. Maybe start with getting that understood.

maruudn ,

My biggest issue is circumventing ads on smart TV apps, 99% of my YT viewing is on a TV.

Evotech ,

It's pretty easy

Just get YouTube premium

werefreeatlast ,

LOL

webghost0101 ,

Then you are part of the problem.

If no one bought that crap there wouldn’t be an insensitive for this psychological warfare.

Evotech ,

Imagine paying for content.
What's the saying? If it's free you are the product?

Anyway, I paid long before the AdBlock crackdown.

webghost0101 ,

I just bypass google entirely by hosting my own modified invidious instance and nuked my account.

Free, no clutter, blazing fast. Took maybe 20 minutes to setup.

SendMePhotos ,

You forget that YouTube was always free in the before times of long long ago. Content was free and delivered flawlessly. Minimal ads. Maybe banner ads or something. Now it's ads every few minutes.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

That's obviously not sustainable. At some point they need to recover expenses on all their infrastructure and development. It can either be through ads or a subscription model. Alternatively they shut down permanently. Which do you want?

SendMePhotos ,

They had paid for it for years. The sustainability relied on the range of services vs the service itself. For example, Walmart doesn't really profit on big tvs. Typically the markup is negative. They combat this with the price of add on devices, wall mounts, hdmi cables, etc. It's not a this or that for me. It's the choice of the company to change it up to be more profitable.

Let's be real, the point of a business is to make money. More money = more success, right? But what happens when you reach one billion dollars? Is one more billion more successful?

This is where my brain says fuck you. One billon means you've won. Stop being a greedy dick.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

They had paid for it for years.

Yes. With the intent of making a profit eventually. Or they wouldn't have.

They combat this with the price of add on devices, wall mounts, hdmi cables, etc.

What is YouTube going to "combat" with if not advertising or subscriptions...?

This is where my brain says fuck you. One billon means you’ve won. Stop being a greedy dick.

One billion means nothing if you're spending tens of billions per year to continue operating. I'm not suggesting the CEO of YouTube deserves to get richer. I'm saying the company has operational expenses and investments that require some level of profitability, and "free for everyone forever" is literally just not a viable option.

SendMePhotos ,

YouTube is only one section of an entire corporation. Compare Walmart's entertainment department to the rest of the store. The company does profit.

Free forever was the whole premise of YouTube. That's why it was named You Tube. Users create content and host it. Ads were fine, the ads now are not fine.

The operational expenses were always covered by ads. Ads is Googles whole business model. They were successful when they were less intrusive, why do they need to do things this way and break up the videos when they have grown an empire on what was previously done?

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

YouTube is only one section of an entire corporation.

It's a corporation, not a charity. They don't spend tens of billions per year out of good will.

Ads were fine, the ads now are not fine.

Ads were not making enough money to justify continued operation.

They were successful when they were less intrusive, why do they need to do things this way and break up the videos when they have grown an empire on what was previously done?

Because "what was previously done" is not sustainable.

SendMePhotos ,

I simply disagree. Stats if YouTube show not just a small sustainable gain, but we are taking 4-5x their income from 10 years ago. https://mobilemarketingreads.com/youtube-revenue-and-usage-statistics-2020/

What they're doing with ads is annoying as shit and their right to do as it's their business to run. It's my right to run my browsers how I want. Also my right to filter traffic in and out of my network.

Sorry man but YouTube ads can kiss the fattest part of my ass.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

I simply disagree.

I don't care

Stats if YouTube show not just a small sustainable gain, but we are taking 4-5x their income from 10 years ago. https://mobilemarketingreads.com/youtube-revenue-and-usage-statistics-2020/

It doesn't matter

What they’re doing with ads is annoying as shit and their right to do as it’s their business to run. It’s my right to run my browsers how I want. Also my right to filter traffic in and out of my network.

I don't care

SendMePhotos ,

Now we're seeing eye to eye.

elephantium ,
@elephantium@lemmy.world avatar

Alphabet spent $70 billion on stock repurchases last year. Their server costs aren't a problem.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

It's not that they couldn't burn billions of dollars for the betterment of society. It's that obviously they won't. If YouTube weren't supposed to be profitable it wouldn't exist.

InternetUser2012 ,

At this point, I'm fine with it shutting down. If it shut down, creators would go somewhere else, we could end up with something much better. i won't watch youtube if I have to watch minutes of ads before the video, and more throughout the video. Hard fucking pass.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

Ok. Then stop watching instead of complaining. I don't watch ads either.

maruudn ,

Idk man, paying for YT premium feels like paying for an ad-free experience, not content. Like my subscription would be going to YT, not the creators who made the content.

madcaesar ,

Cheap android tv box (onn) install smart tube.

maruudn ,

I don't live in the US so I don't have as easy access to random Android boxes like the ones on Amazon, but yeah I'll probably get one eventually. I have a Chromecast 4K, but I haven't really explored all the available apps yet. I'd love to be able to sideload apps, if I could get Grayjay on there that'd be awesome.

beefontoast ,

If you get a fire stick from Amazon and load smarttube app (side loading) you can use that and all the adverts and sponsor sections will be blocked out of your YouTube viewing. You can login to your YouTube account also with the app.

AmosBurton ,

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    AmosBurton_ThatGuy ,
    @AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca avatar

    Hey I like your username buddy it's pretty cool

    Tetsuo ,

    The only issue I have with YouTube is that while using an Ad blocker it doesn't track videos I have already seen in my subscriptions.

    So it will tell me that I didn't watch a video I just watched.

    A small price to pay for an ad free experience but a bit annoying still.

    anlumo ,

    Works fine for me with Ublock Origin.

    Tetsuo ,

    Interesting.
    I got to have a peculiar list activated in Ublock that breaks tracking of watched videos.

    Thanks for the feedback.

    Candybar121 ,

    Don't worry, my youtube does manage to track my watch history, and yet it will still recommend me a video I've just seen anyway!

    Rayquaza01 ,
    @Rayquaza01@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    If your history isn't working, it's probably because you're blocking s.youtube.com. If you whitelist that, history should work again.

    Frellwit ,
    @Frellwit@lemmy.world avatar

    The performance issues are because of Adblock and Adblock Plus: https://nitter.net/gorhill/status/1746263759495077919#m

    It affects more sites than just YouTube.

    generic , (edited )
    @generic@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    People still use AdBlock Plus? I thought that was long since dead. You know, since they sold out and let companies pay them to show ads.

    noodlejetski ,

    not everyone keeps track of browser addon news, so... yeah? it's been a most recommended and recognizable ad blocker for a long time, so lots of people are probably still unaware of the changes after all those years and stick with it.

    anlumo ,

    That piece of news is like a decade old. There are people on the net now that weren’t even born when AdBlock Plus turned to shit.

    noodlejetski ,

    again, you overestimate how much people are invested in addon news.

    NuttyChunks ,
    @NuttyChunks@lemmy.world avatar

    For those that are not aware, set your VPN to Albania and you will never see a YouTube ad again.

    beefontoast ,

    Why is this?

    Smokeless7048 ,

    presumably, it would be because ads are area dependent, and companies in Albania are not spending much on youtube ads.a

    If you managed to get a VPN server on antarctica, you would likely see the same.

    beefontoast ,

    Yep.. only downside is all your search results are going to be in Albanian.

    Mrduckrocks ,

    You can change region in duckduckgo manually, probably in goggle as well.

    ililiililiililiilili ,

    Firefox + uBlock Origin + User Agent Switcher (set to Chrome). I did get the pop-up once saying they would cut me off. I cleared cache and browsing data and haven't seen the warning since. 🤞

    Candybar121 ,

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    stepanzak ,

    Have you tried changing your user agent to chrome?

    hywoid ,

    Stop using Chrome already.

    Havald ,

    Again? Hasn't changed for me since they started doing that in November. YouTube is quite annoying to use for me these days, the site takes forever to load and only starts loading when I switch to the tab. Best thing to do is adding everything to a queue, videos load normally then for some reason.
    As a result I'm using YouTube less though, so not necessarily a bad thing.

    TragicNotCute ,
    @TragicNotCute@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m not sure the YouTube heads really thought this through. I’m doing the exact same thing. I got a Plex setup and I’ve been watching more and more content on that instead of YouTube. I honestly don’t even miss it. When I eventually go back and try to watch something on a non-ad block device (Apple TV), it further underscores how shitty the service is getting. Longer and longer ads and it seems like they are slowly getting louder than the content.

    cali_ash ,

    Still works fine with uBlock origin.

    n3cr0 ,

    That's straight the opposite of my experience. 🤭

    Dasnap ,
    @Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

    Changes like these are mostly A/B deployed, so it might eventually find itself to you.

    ...But I'm sure uBlock Origin will have put in a fix by that point.

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