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A_Very_Big_Fan

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A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

Peel me a grape, crush me some ice, grill me a cheese

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

egad

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

Hey it's me, your local moderator, here to collect your debt 🥸

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

I mean they're not wrong, but it does seem silly to complain about American politics on a website where most people are American.

They could block instances/users posting content they don't want to see, or browse by "subscribed."

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

for some reason

Perhaps the impending chance of us living with 4 more years of someone who openly wants to violently overthrow our government and be a dictator?

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

and it doesn’t negatively affect the people around them?

The problem is that most of the time this isn't true.

I found out not too long ago that my best friend is perfectly willing to vote against my right to love who I want and embrace the identity that I want, and will openly (albeit only when I ask) tell me I deserve to go to hell for it. My family is even worse.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

I had the opposite experience. I was convinced I was going to hell and that there was nothing I could do about it, so I thought I may as well be glutinous and selfish to enjoy my time here before getting tortured for eternity. It caused me some serious trauma, and on top of that it led to me hurting family and friends.

I don't think I could've ever left my self-loathing and selfishness behind if I didn't let go of my religion.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

Gnostic atheism is not the same as agnostic atheism. You're talking about a subsect of atheism.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

Nah, you live in an unfeeling, uncaring world. There is nothing, no great answer. Just living until you die.

I don't agree with that other guy, but now you're just wrestling with a straw man. Nobody says these things.

Nature and physics may not have the capacity to care about you, but you have friends, family, and pets that do whether God exists or not. And there's plenty of questions that seem like we won't get an answer for the foreseeable future, but that doesn't mean you can't find any meaning or joy in trying, or that you can't tackle smaller questions that could build up to answering a greater one.

Just living until you die.

This part is particularly cartoonish. Nobody says life is just living until you die. That's a debatably bigoted caricature that Christians invented.

We live the same lives theists do, and we have just as many meaningful experiences and relationships. We just don't sacrifice enormous amounts of our time worshiping or thinking about something that can't be shown to exist unless you take someone's word for it.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

How is that different to what he said it was?

A_Very_Big_Fan , (edited )

I mean if lying to yourself and others gives you comfort, then my point stands that you need help

"Lying" means they know it's false. It seems like they're unknowingly spreading misinformation, which is still bad but not morally wrong.

Unnecessarily harsh language isn't very productive in discussions like this.

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

I want to be her

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

Isn't it great, living in a country where our two choices are "genocide" or "less genocide"

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

I can't load images from that site half the time

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

FWIW, you have my permission to wipe us off the face of the planet

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

instead of the tarballs that did have the manipulations in them

My only exposure to Linux is SteamOS so I might be misunderstanding something, but if not:

How in the world did it get infected in the first place? Do we know?

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

As an enormous Id Tech nerd that's too young to know this, this is very interesting!

‘IRL Fakes:’ Where People Pay for AI-Generated Porn of Normal People (www.404media.co)

A Telegram user who advertises their services on Twitter will create an AI-generated pornographic image of anyone in the world for as little as $10 if users send them pictures of that person. Like many other Telegram communities and users producing nonconsensual AI-generated sexual images, this user creates fake nude images of...

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

Why "AI" being involved matters is beyond me.

The AI hysteria is real, and clickbait is money.

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

Also when talking about people, it would be nice if they was a lot more normalized even in situations where the gender of the person is known.

Please!! As an enby person, I get so tired of reading "he/she." Just say "they!" It means the same thing while including people who don't identify as either.

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

Can we also address that they wrote "is" instead of "are", implying they originally wrote "it" and then erased it?

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod , (edited )

I was high af when I wrote that, I honestly have no clue how I came to that conclusion lol

Edit: actually I think what I was thinking was it doesn't work with "they"

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

As a master pizza chef and cat whisperer who doesn't need to sleep, I could easily make enough money to buy estrogen and laser hair removal.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

In what sense is Apple not expensive monetarily, is a better question.

Their hardware is way more expensive than their competitors and they go out of their way to make them difficult to repair, all while making it difficult for third party repair shops to get the parts and schematics that they need. The genius bar goes out of their way to make you pay for a new laptop rather than do a repair that could be done for >100x cheaper by anyone else.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

Depending on how you look at it, that is what he said

In German, "gross" = "great"

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

As someone who primarily uses Windows, Ubuntu didn't feel like it had any bloat when I tried it.

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

w h a t d o t h l i f e ?

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

Are we all just fleshy blips in this cosmic oblivion? Or is it.... vice reversa?

(I want y'all to know I had a friend that unironically thought that the phrase really was "vice reversa")

A_Very_Big_Fan , (edited )

Reminds me of a moment in Deltarune that's sort of the opposite of this:

Minor spoilers: >!In Chapter 1, if you look under Asreal's bed you find a console with two controllers, one original and one knock-off. Then at the very end of Chapter 2 if you look at Toriel's monitor in her classroom, it'll say something like "The desktop background is you and your brother playing videogames. He's using a knock-off controller."!<

That hit me unreasonably hard lol. It was a mix of "AAAAAAAAA he's such a good older brother 😭" and "Jesus Christ this is some good fucking storytelling." It's a callback to the very beginning of the game, which you find at the very end of the demo. An absolute gem of storytelling put into the flavor-text of two otherwise mundane objects, the latter of which is in a totally optional room. It's such a subtle yet beautiful way of showing that he loves you.

A few tears were shed. It was a great reward for being so thorough in reading all of the flavor-texts throughout the game.

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

There's blood in my alcohol system

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

It's incredible how many people think gaslighting is literally any instance of saying something untrue.

But this instance is particularly egregious, because you didn't even read the first sentence of the link you posted.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

The only argument against it that I think is valid is that it shouldn't be outputting copyrighted content, which seems like a pretty easy problem to solve but I'm no expert. If YouTube can do it with the volume of data they work with, it can't be that hard to do it with text and pictures.

But the idea that an AI model just looking at a picture is somehow stealing is just absurd to me.

A_Very_Big_Fan Mod ,

IIRC she isn't exactly real. I don't think she ever interacted with anyone besides Madeline.

So I think it's more that she's a manifestation of self-criticism that evolves from harmful self-loathing into constructive thoughts that enable Madeline to reach heights she never could have at the beginning of her journey.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

Try telling that to the AI hysterics

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

Right, so I suppose George Lucas was stealing from all the movies that inspired his work when he made Star Wars. Or when Mel Brooks made Space Balls, as a more blatant example

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

And the same can be said about generative AI

If it's not redistributed copyrighted material, it's not theft

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

it can old produce an algorithmically-derived malange of its source-data recomposited in novel forms

Right, it produces derivative data. Not copyrighted material.

By itself without any safeguards, it absolutely could output copyrighted data, (albeit probably not perfectly but for copyright purposes that's irrelevant as long as it serves as a substitute). And any algorithms that do do that should be punished, but OpenAI's models can't do that.

Hammers aren't bad because they can be used for bludgeoning, and if we have a hammer that somehow detects that it's being used for murder and then evaporates, calling it bad is even more ridiculous.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

but it is still capable - by your own admission - of doing it

...

And if you are comparing LLMs and hammers, you’re just proving how you fundamentally misunderstand what LLMs are and how they work

And a regular hammer is capable of being used for murder. Which makes calling a hammer that evaporates before it can be used for murder "unethical" ridiculous. You're deliberately missing the point.

And it still profits from the unlicensed use of copyrighted works by using such material for its training data

I just don't buy this reasoning. If I look at paintings of the Eiffel Tower and then sell my own painting of the building, I'm not violating the copyright of any of the original painters unless what I paint is so similar to one of theirs that it violates fair use.

it is a composite of copyrighted work

It's stable diffusion, not a composite. But even if they were composites, I'm allowed to shred a magazine and make a composite image of something else. It's fair use until I use those pieces to create a copyrighted image.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

Coming from someone who claimed stable diffusion was a composite image

A_Very_Big_Fan , (edited )

AI, unlike a human, cannot create unique works of art. it can old produce an algorithmically-derived malange of its source-data recomposited in novel forms

Find me a single sentence in that entire article that suggests AI art is composites of source data

You can't, because how it actually works is wildly different than how you want to believe it works.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

Mhm, I'm sure that's why you couldn't find a single sentence about compositing images

DALL·E 2 uses a diffusion model conditioned on CLIP image embeddings, which, during inference, are generated from CLIP text embeddings by a prior model.

You're either projecting or being dishonest

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

If it's cherry-picked it should be easy to give me a single sentence, but apparently you can't lol

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

"your evidence is cherry-picked but I refuse to provide any of my own, why aren't you just trusting me??" very convincing

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

And I provided evidence the article says something wildly different than what you want it to say, and all you have is "read it again until it says something else" lol

Also voting with two accounts is pathetic

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

Dali doesn't own the concept of a melting clock. If I include a melting clock in my own work, as long as it's not his melting clock with all the other elements of his painting, it's fair use.

GPT hasn't been a prototype since before 2018, and the copyright restrictions are only getting tighter every time it's updated so idk what you're on about.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

Yeah lmao after like 20 paragraphs of nothing, it wasn't hard to believe you didn't know what you were talking about. But I looked at the complaint itself out of curiosity, and it's flimsy and misleading.

The first issue is 100% of the allegedly paywalled text from all 4 articles mentioned in the complaint can be read by non-paying customers for free outside of the paywall. You can't read the whole article, but you can get far enough to read all 4 quotes mentioned in the complaint yourself. The links to each article are in the complaint if you don't believe me. They have nothing to show they bypassed a paywall or that it was trained on unlicensed content.

The second issue is the third exhibit claims it will bypass paywalls when asked. This is demonstrably false because for one, the article they asked it for isn't paywalled, and for two, using their exact prompts word for word doesn't work if you try it yourself.

Two of the four exhibits don't even have screenshots, so there's no evidence it happened in the first place, but more importantly they don't (and apparently won't when asked) disclose what lengths they had to go to in order to get that output. For all we know they gave it 90% of the words and told it to fill in the gaps.

A_Very_Big_Fan , (edited )

I'm talking generally why this is an important question for a CEO to answer ...

Right, which your only evidence for is "LLMs do often just verbatim spit out things they plagiarized form other sources" and that they aren't trying to prevent this from happening.

Which is demonstrably false, and I'll demonstrate it with as many screenshots/examples you want. You're just wrong about that (at least about GPT). You can also demonstrate it yourself, and if you can prove me wrong I'll eat my shoe.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

We're not making legislation here, so we don't have that level of burden of proof. But either way, when it comes to factors of fair use that every authority on the matter will list, it violates almost all of them.

It's non-commercial, and it's using facts rather than using a more creative work, so it's got that going for it... But it's

  • composed of 100% copied material

  • it's not transformative

  • it's substituting the original work

  • it uses officially published work

  • it specifically copies the "heart" of the work

  • it bypasses all of the ads and impacts their traffic/metrics so it has a financial impact on them.

It's pretty obvious that there is no argument here. The factors that are violated the hardest and most undisputably are the ones that most authorities on the matter (including the one I linked) agree are the most important.

A_Very_Big_Fan , (edited )

I already talked about that lawsuit here (with receipts) but the long and short of it is, it's flimsy. There's blatant lies, exactly half of their examples omit the lengths they went to for the output they allegedly got or any screenshots as evidence it happened at all, and none of the output they allegedly got was behind a paywall.

Also, using their prompts word for word doesn't give the output they claim they got. Maybe it did in the past, idk, but I've never been able to do it for any copyrighted text personally, and they've shown that they're committed to not letting that stuff happen.

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