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papertowels ,

Freetaxusa does them for like 20 bucks

papertowels ,

"just put your social here..."

papertowels ,

The design is very human

papertowels ,

So.... What do you think are the odds that your third party vote improves the situation in Palestine?

If your third party vote makes it more likely that Trump wins and results in more bloodshed, that is a choice you contributed to, and blood is still on your hands.

papertowels ,

No, they're right but we live in a flawed democracy.

papertowels ,

Ehhhh, things are looking a little dicey...

papertowels ,

A different way to think about it - most of the intended audience on Lemmy, and especially in this community, would've voted democrat instead of republican. So from the frame of reference of this post, most folks here claiming to vote third party did in fact have their vote "taken" from Biden.

papertowels ,

virtue-signalling
: the act or practice of conspicuously displaying one's awareness of and attentiveness to political issues, matters of social and racial justice, etc., especially instead of taking effective action

papertowels ,

Or republican politicans calling to end Palestine "as if" we nuked it.

papertowels , (edited )

I've asked folks who aren't voting for Biden what they think the odds of their vote reducing genocide in the real world is, and all I've gotten is crickets.

Given that there doesn't seem to be much confidence there, the real world results are likely trump or biden.

Trump has folks in his party alluding to nukes when saying Palestine has to be ended quickly, even trump himself has stated that Israel has to end the war quickly. Therefore I suggest that Trump will result in far more lives lost than Biden.

Folks on Lemmy are typically left-leaning.

This means that a Lemmy user voting third party could've been a vote for Biden, which in a binary choice results in less lives lost. Yes, I know, Biden centrist, etc etc, but he's to the left of the absolute insanity that is the republican party.

However instead some folks value a clean conscience over real world results, and vote third party/abstain. If these votes would've otherwise gone to Biden, then they have made a trump presidency more likely, which has the real world effect of resulting in more lives lost.

I'm fine with people voting with their conscience, but I just want folks to acknowledge whether or not their vote makes a trump presidency (therefore more genocide) more likely. Most people just seem to think "I'm not voting for genocide so my hands are clean and I'm good!" and stick their head in the sand.

papertowels ,

What'd he have to do to earn it? It's hard to think about Lemmy users as a whole, what about you in particular?

papertowels ,

You're implying that asking people what they think the real world results of their choices are is being the thought police? That seems a little... diluted.

papertowels ,

Ah, it sounds like you'd typically vote third party to begin with.

If that's the case, then your vote was never going to go to Biden to begin with, so all of the above doesn't really apply.

papertowels , (edited )

And that is fair.

I should've been more explicit - what I posted is focused on folks who are single issue voting here.

EDIT: If Palestine is the only thing someone cares about, voting third party is likely actually hurting their cause. However you are choosing who to vote for based on many additional issues, which is why this doesn't really apply to you.

papertowels ,

I'm not getting how you got to that conclusion, can you flesh it out a little more?

papertowels ,

If a genocide is going to occur regardless of the vote, then the vote doesn’t matter.

Do you think that more people in Palestine will suffer if trump is elected?

papertowels , (edited )

Ah, see that's the assumption where you differ from most other folks in this thread.

The base assumption made by others, backed by trump encouraging a fast victory for Israel , as well as other GOP politicians with similar calls are signs that trump would press on the accelerator hard.

His commitment to Israel is in stark contrast to how he's treated other longtime American allies.

Lastly, let's not forget his infamous Muslim travel ban.

papertowels ,

I'm fine with people voting with their conscience, but I just want folks to acknowledge whether or not their vote makes a trump presidency (therefore more genocide) more likely. Most people just seem to think "I'm not voting for genocide so my hands are clean and I'm good!" and stick their head in the sand.

I'm not upset if they do, nor do I expect them to vote my way. I just want to encourage them to discuss the real world effects of their choice. I just want to make sure they're internally consistent in their reasoning. For example, another commentor said they've voted for third party since 2008, and my response was for them to simply carry on doing so.

You can label discourse as "thought policing", but then that casts an extremely wide net that cheapens the term as used by Orwell.

papertowels , (edited )

Trump and the other Republicans will say a lot, but they aren’t going to act any different than what Biden and Blinken are already doing with Palestine

Muslim travel ban, Golan heights, and Jerusalem recognition + US embassy adoption there suggests that there are real world acts that the administration would do differently to me, what do you think?

What are they going to do, send more arms and money faster?

Precisely, afaik he doesn't give a shit about the people of Palestine, he's more worried about Israels bad PR and wants them to end it fast.

EDIT: just to check, did you read the JNS article? It's pretty bad, and he spells out exactly what he wants to do... A small excerpt is below.

“On day one, we’ll restore our travel ban. We had a travel ban because we didn’t want people coming into our country who really loved the idea of blowing our country up,” he said. He called the ban an “amazing success.”

“We didn’t have one incident in four years, because we kept bad people out of our country,” he claimed.

“I’ll also be implementing strong ideological screenings for all immigrants coming in,” he
said. “If you hate America, if you want to abolish Israel, if you sympathize with jihadists, then we don’t want you in our country and you’re not going to be getting into our country.”

Trump also said he would cancel student visas of Hamas sympathizers.

“The college campuses are being taken over, and all of the resident aliens who joined in the pro-jihadist protests this month, nobody’s seen anything like it,” he said. “Come 2025, we will find you, and we will deport you.”

...

As president, Trump would “put every single university and college president on notice,” he said. “The American taxpayer will not subsidize the creation of terrorist sympathizers on American soil.”

That last bit is actual government thought policing.

papertowels ,

People who are choosing not to vote for Biden are doing so because of a genocide that is happening NOW. You want to question them on contingent hypothetical real world results of a Trump presidency that may, or may not, happen in the FUTURE.

Oh so they can reason about a hypothetical future if they vote third party, but they can't do so if it's about a trump presidency? That's hilarious. Or are you saying they unable reason about a hypothetical future at all?

Holy shit my man I'm asking folks to tell me what THEY think is going to happen as a consequence of their actions. If their reasoning is so shit that that question shakes them to their core, get good.

papertowels ,

It's definitely not working, but all evidence I've seen suggests it's right.

Do you agree with me that "Biden is bad, but trump will be worse" is a correct statement?

I think the tiredness you're referring to is a result of people voting emotionally and not logically, or just being exhausted with this whole shitstorm.

papertowels ,

I appreciate you defining that, but I don't see anything that suggests most voters fall under that category - any chance you'd be able to dig that up?

papertowels ,

Thanks!

Do you think retrospective voters use the past to try and inform reasoning about the future?

IMO there has to be some level of this happening, otherwise retrospective voters would only have an opinion on those that already have served, and would be essentially picking from those who have not served at random.

papertowels ,

I'm starting to suspect that the arguments seem as nauseam because I'm trying to reason people out of a decision they didn't reason themselves into - i.e. they're voting emotionally, and not logically. Inconvenient questions get ignored, and we're left with very surface level arguments.

I particularly saw some users comments reflected in this excerpt in the retrospective voting article you shared:

In his classic book “The Responsible Electorate,” the late Harvard University political scientist V.O. Key Jr. suggests that judging a president’s or his party’s performance in office presents a perfect opportunity for the voter to play “rational God of vengeance or reward.”

Perhaps they're voting this way to try and recapture efficacy in a world where they feel they have very little.

papertowels , (edited )

Maybe it says something that China limits access to their kids

In 2019, Douyin limited users in teenager mode to 40 minutes per day, accessible only between the hours of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. Then, in 2021, it made the use of teenager mode mandatory for users under 14.

Seems like a bit of a digital smallpox blanket.

papertowels ,

There's actually a few types of interest, including student loan, that can be deducted.

papertowels ,

You'll notice he's not the one saying this, she is.

Some people just feel more attractive when they are cleaned up down there.

And before you go off about how it's the patriarchy, etc, I'm one of those people and I'm a dude.

papertowels ,

Used my credit to buy my mom a new phone.

Google did a solid in this case.

papertowels ,

I don't think anyone is surprised, I feel like anyone who criticizes the government there has a very legitimate threat of getting disappeared.

papertowels ,

Yeah, but given that this is the fair phone 5, they at least get partial credit in my book

papertowels ,

This is why I've been holding off on getting one myself. I know murena sells the phone in the US, but last I checked they didn't sell parts, so there's no point in a repairable phone if I can't get parts.

papertowels ,

cries in flat roof and slab foundation

papertowels ,

You gotta pay. You gotta pay your bills.

This mother fucking hypocrite

papertowels ,

Not sure if it's obvious from this comment, but also worth pointing out to folks learning about unraid that it still has parity drives that let you recover from disk failures - it's not just JBOD.

papertowels ,

Bruh my reading comprehension....

papertowels , (edited )

If you upgrade the motherboard, you can actually 3d print or buy a $60 case and use the old motherboard as a desktop.

edited for clarity

papertowels ,

Yup - as someone else pointed out I wasn't clear in what I said. If you buy a new mobo to upgrade your laptop, you wind up with an older mobo that sits there. You can then actually use the old mobo as a desktop computer as long as it has ram and an SSD. The form factor and IO were designed with this functionality in mind.

papertowels ,

Yeah, I hate tik Tok but it was a slam dunk of people clipping and sharing the catchiest part of songs. I'd think it's easy money for the label.

White House calls for legislation after ‘alarming’ proliferation of Taylor Swift deepfakes — Social media networks also need to do more to prevent the spread of the images, said press secretary Kar... (www.bloomberg.com)

White House calls for legislation after ‘alarming’ proliferation of Taylor Swift deepfakes — Social media networks also need to do more to prevent the spread of the images, said press secretary Kar...::The White House said sexually-explicit AI-generated images of pop star Taylor Swift were concerning and that Congress...

papertowels ,

Precedence set by Ticketmaster too....

papertowels ,

You know, I always associated dirty, smelly degenerates with magic until I started playing - (I validated that by being the dirty smelly degenerate 😉) it was interesting finding out that potentially due to the high cost of the decks, a good part of the playerbase actually really had their shit together. We're talking engineers, pediatricians, lawyers etc. who could afford to throw $500 down on cardboard. Enough folks were married that my wife started calling the place "husband daycare"

Of course the smelly smell still made an appearance, I was able to determine if a particular person was in the local game store (LGS) by smell alone, the moment I walked into the store.

papertowels ,

Oh God I'd throw up so bad

papertowels , (edited )

If you scale this up, it's how you get food deserts serviced only by dollar stores like family dollar, meaning no fresh produce.

I say this as someone who's had pharmacies near me close due to overwhelming theft.

Don't go overboard, or your community will suffer.

papertowels ,

I appreciate the (paywalled) link, however I know for a fact that the closed pharmacies are in bad parts of town where theft is in fact rampant.

If you think you can, as a society, encourage stealing from a grocery store and expect them to stay open, more power to you. I hope your community doesn't become a food desert, because that's a part of a downward poverty spiral.

papertowels ,

Funny you say that, we've had an abandoned Walmart for a while now, nobody is moving in except maybe the crackheads.

papertowels ,

I got real excited for a second

papertowels ,

Wow, that is eye opening. I can't imagine how bad helicopter parents can be these days....

papertowels ,

I've heard mistral released some good models

papertowels ,

When I was a kid I installed it and was like "hooHOO, me hacker", so there are silly things like that.

Nevermind me being too intimidated by CLI to do anything in Linux at the time lmfao.

It's been a while since I've thought about it, so what are the reasons why it's a bad daily driver? I assume there's poor support for drivers, hardware, etc.?

Or is it when you do pen testing you don't want to leave traces of yourself? I'm not a cybersecurity guy, so I genuinely don't know.

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