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trippingonthewire , to Privacy in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride

Honestly I'm just quitting social media. It got to a point where I just go on to learn about things, not to laugh at something stupid or post about how I'm feeling. You don't need 4+ social media accounts at that point.

EpicVision , (edited ) to Technology in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride

https://twiiit.com/ checks which Nitter instances still work and redirects you accordingly

lemmyreader OP ,

Nice

spiritedpause , to Technology in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride

If you want to follow Twitter accounts from Mastodon, there's a bridge called Bird.Makeup that still works and is working on a workaround to this issue.

I'm working on a Mastodon client called Agora that integrates this bridge into the search, so that if you search for "elonmusk@twitter.com" it automatically loads the bridged Mastodon version of the profile: https://agorasocial.app/#/andrew.masto.host/a/111844567849084915

lemmyreader OP ,

Looks cool. Thank you.

peak_dunning_krueger , to Technology in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride

Not sure about unsung, but definitely heroes in my book.

Emi621 , to Technology in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride

I never really used Twitter, the only reason I still sometimes check it out is because of some artists that mainly post there. Wonder if there is a site where there's majority of artists and also majority of their newest art too.

morrowind ,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

Art station maybe

Nighed ,
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Art station, Instagram and deviantart are all selling data or doing iffy AI stuff as far as I can tell.

progettarsi ,

iffy ai stuff?

Nighed ,
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Artstation doesn't let you filter out AI art, so there will be AI art alongside human art. There was also some issues about if artstation is allowing AI to be trained on what you upload.

Deviantart had a similar issue, and now have an AI art generator on their site.

Instagram is obviously selling all the data they can about what you do/upload, training AI on it etc.

progettarsi ,

Is there a site that filters out ai art? and why should i? ai art can be beatiful if u don't consider It art

morrowind ,
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Artstation doesn’t let you filter out AI art

??

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/972ba228-750a-4e40-ad84-1d72d2c408e4.png


There was also some issues about if artstation is allowing AI to be trained on what you upload.

They seem to have fixed it https://magazine.artstation.com/2022/12/noli-tag/

When you tag your projects with “NoAI” ArtStation will automatically assign an HTML “NoAI” meta tag. This will explicitly disallow the use of your content by AI systems. We’ve also updated our Terms of Service to prohibit companies from using NoAI-tagged content to train AI art generators.

We’ve added an account setting you can use to tag all of your current and future projects as NoAI.

Nighed ,
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Oh, is that search filter account wide? Will take a look when I got home.

Did the no ai art protest on there win then, or were they going for a complete ban?

morrowind ,
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It mostly won from my understanding. I'm not sure what you mean by "account wide" though. This is for an individual search

Nighed ,
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If I'm logged in I want to never see AI art.

morrowind ,
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ah not sure, I don't have an arstation account

kilgore_trout ,
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ArtStation in owned by Epic Games.

Tattorack ,
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A lot of them have moved to Bluesky.

selokichtli , to Technology in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride

Twitter should have died years ago, but somehow having Musk still there makes plenty of sense.

nutsack ,

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  • Tattorack ,
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    So... Like any social media or large message board, then?

    nutsack ,

    as much as i hate musk and the changes happening, Twitter is still good if you're in the right bubble

    jol ,

    nutsack

    Exhibit A

    makeasnek , to Privacy in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride
    @makeasnek@lemmy.ml avatar

    Nostr vs Mastodon on Privacy & Autonomy:

    • Relay/instance admins can choose which content goes through their relay on either platform
    • On nostr, your DMs are encrypted. In Mastodon, the admin of the sender and receiver can read them, as can anybody else who breaks into their server
    • On nostr, a relay admin can control what goes through their relay, but they can't stop you from following/DMing/being followed by whoever you want since you are typically connected to multiple relays at once. As long as one relay allows it, signal flows. Nostr provides the best of both worlds: moderated "public squares" according to your moderation preferences, autonomy to follow/dm/be followed by anybody you want (assuming that individual user hasn't blocked you).
    • On mastodon, your identity is tied to your instance. If your instance goes down, you lose your follow/followee list, DMs, etc. On Nostr, it's not, so this doesn't happen. Mastodon provides some functionality to migrate identity between instances but it's clunky and generally requires to have some form of advanced notice.
    • Both have all the same functions as twitter: tweet, reply, re-tweet, DM, like, etc.
    LWD ,

    Jack Dorsey endorses Nostr. He hates Mastodon.

    Gargari ,

    Nost as a protocol is way bettter.
    Nostr is BTC fanboyz place, unfortunately there is no content

    kent_eh , to Technology in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride

    What to do now?

    Just avoid the whole twixttwr thing.

    There's not enough of value there to bother trying to find a benign way of accessing it.

    nutsack ,

    why can't you just type the word Twitter

    kent_eh ,

    I'm poking ridicule about their stupid new name.

    nutsack ,

    The name is still Twitter it never changed

    angrytoadnoises , to Privacy in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride
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    in a few hundred years historians will look back at this time of the internet and feel extremely frustrated that we had perfect record keeping systems that would retain all this knowledge and culture forever but we for some reason let companies blackhole it

    programmer_belch , to Privacy in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride
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    Simply put, Fuck Melon Musk. I hope someone straps a bomb to his private plane with public routes that anyone can search.

    I am not delusional enough to think people will one day leave twitter for greener pastures. As always it's too much hassle to just care a little about your privacy so normal users will never look outside the walled gardens of the bird.

    I have never and will never make a xhitter account just by principle, I don't care if that leaves me out of some conversations.

    Sorry for the rant

    EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted , to Privacy in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride
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    That link for some reason is broken on my end, so in case anyone else stumbles upon this thread and wonders what the hell has happened to Nitter, here is an article from Ars Technica, Twitter front-end Nitter dies as Musk wins war against third-party services:

    An open source project that let people view tweets without going to Twitter.com has shut down, as Elon Musk's changes seem to have closed off all possible ways to access the Twitter network without a user account.

    Nitter provided an alternative front-end to Twitter but has been struggling for months. Nitter.net, the official Nitter instance, went down a few weeks ago.

    NoLog, a Czech group that ran another Nitter instance, announced its demise today. NoLog operated one of the largest Nitter instances but is a different group than the one that created Nitter itself.

    "Nitter is over—it's been a fun ride. Twitter blocked the last known way to access their network without a user account," the NoLog update said.

    Users reported that many Nitter instances went down about eight months ago as Twitter (now called X) imposed new API restrictions. Some instances stayed online with workarounds, which no longer work.

    "Most Nitter servers were using a technique of generating loads of temporary tokens that were used for accessing the content, but that path is now blocked as well," the NoLog update today said.
    Twitter limited “any access they can’t monetize”

    NoLog says its Nitter service was designed to maintain users' privacy.

    "Over the last 2 years nitter.cz proxied over 10 Billion requests (>10,000,000,000) to Twitter, shielding you from tracking and ads, while providing a fast user interface... We never track our users, show ads or sell any data to any third party," the update said. "Our infrastructure runs on our own bare-metal servers, and we are not dependent on any cloud provider. That doesn't mean it's free. Running our servers costs us ~600€/month, and we are only able to pay for it thanks to users who are pitching in."

    NoLog's update said that Nitter's main developer, Zed, "worked really hard to keep the project going" over the past few years. "But Twitter worked just as hard on closing their network down and limiting any access they can't monetize."

    There are still some active Nitter instances, but they are expected to shut down in the near future as the remaining tokens expire. Three weeks ago, Zed wrote on GitHub that "Nitter is dead."
    Guest-account workaround stopped working

    In August 2023, Zed explained on GitHub that the project found a way to continue at least temporarily despite Twitter's API changes.

    "I conclude that it is possible to easily acquire thousands of guest accounts within just a few minutes by using proxies, and they are all usable from a single IP address without getting rate limited," the August 2023 post said. "The rate limits per account work the same way as guest tokens, with a 15 minute window of x requests being allowed. It is therefore 100% feasible to get Nitter back up and running, it just requires a bunch of proxies. I will also develop a service that fetches these continuously, and lets operators request guest accounts for their own instances without having to pay for proxies."

    The so-called guest account was really a "strange anonymous account old versions of the Android and iOS apps used to make when you opened them for the first time," Zed explained. "It doesn't use an email address, a password, or even a customizable username, and they cannot be viewed anywhere or logged into."

    Each guest account essentially provided temporary credentials that worked with the Twitter API for about a month. It "is therefore not equivalent to setting up a bot farm to create fake X/Twitter accounts," Zed wrote.
    Group sad that Twitter is led by “egomaniac”

    Of course, this guest account workaround has since been closed off. Pointing to a recent discussion on GitHub, today's update from NoLog said there may be "a way to spin up a personal Nitter instance with your own account to keep the interface you are used to, but there is no guarantee this will work long-term."

    This also wouldn't work on a large scale. "Unfortunately regular accounts can only support a small group of users, so running a public instance this way is not feasible," the update said.

    As for what Nitter users should do now, the NoLog post had a recommendation: "Don't trust corporations, especially those where one egomaniac has all the power. Use open-source and community driven solutions if you can (like Mastodon)."

    NoLog accepts donations and offers a few other services, including file sharing with end-to-end encryption.

    This article was corrected after publication to make it clear that NoLog and Nitter are separate entities.

    EvilLootbox , to Technology in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride
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    That's a shame, been using the firefox extensions on my phone and pc for months. Looks like I won't be viewing any tweets anymore unless they're embedded in some shit-tier 'XYZ happened and people are furious' "article"

    AllonzeeLV , (edited ) to Technology in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride

    Don't trust corporations, especially those where one egomaniac has all the power.

    I disagree with the inference of the second part, publically traded companies are forced by shareholders to lay off workers and sabotage long term plans for short term profits all day every day, and they're emboldened and desperate knowing their grift has nowhere left to grow/metastasize on a finite world they've already largely raped, pillaged, and conquered for it's capital value.

    The problem isn't whether one egomaniac majority shareholder capitalist or 1,000 egomaniac shareholder capitalists let their insatiable greed disease do the managing.

    The problem is capitalism and the worst of human impulses it stokes exclusively by design.

    Fuck Elon Musk the blood emerald heir with a bachelor's degree playing pretend he's Tony Stark though.

    drmoose ,

    The problem is that we rely to much on proprietary software just because people want money. We're seriously losing billions of work hours in efficiency loss because our society can't monetize free software. Now we have to reinvent twitter.

    SpiceDealer , to Technology in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride
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    We will miss you. We won't let those corporate egomaniacs take over.

    AllonzeeLV ,

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  • lemmy_user_838586 ,

    Riiight around Reagan is when things accelerated going south...

    AllonzeeLV , (edited )

    Agreed, hence the 50 year range.

    Got elected 44 years ago, another 6 years to minimize prominence beyond being a shitty B actor who just... dissappeared 50 years ago...

    Oh wait, probably need to back up a little more to prevent his Governorship. Do we have enough temporal gas?

    RestrictedAccount , to Privacy in Nitter is over - It's been a fun ride

    Welcome to Mastedon or Bluesky

    LWD ,

    If you don't think Jack Dorsey is an egomaniac in his own right, I have some sobering news for you

    RestrictedAccount ,

    It was better than X

    LWD ,

    I did something better than X in the bathroom this morning, we need better standards 😜

    aspiring_sage ,

    X under Musk gave us a social platform burning all of its cultural relevancy away. Twitter under Dorsey gave us the presidency of Donald Trump.

    No, it was not better.

    LouisGarbuor ,

    That is a really bold opinion, and honestly I don't disagree.

    davel ,
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