I think originally it tried to be a Facebook alternative, but over time it developed into a personal cloud space of sorts. I would agree with the comparison to Nextcloud as of 5 years ago, but these days they pivoted into the enterprise space and isn't that nice for home users any longer.
Does Hubzilla have CardDAV and CalDAV support? I'm using NextCloud for calendar and contacts primarily, would be interesting to try Hubzilla as a replacement if it's feasible.
Sorry to bother you again, I was starting to look into Hubzilla and my brain started hurting, because I can't understand how you federate contacts, calendar and file hosting. That said, I started looking into the contacts and calendar thing and this came up
Hubzilla and Nextcloud both offer features for managing contacts and calendars, but they cater to different needs:
Hubzilla focuses on social networking and doesn't have built-in calendar or contact management features. However, some Hubzilla servers offer integrations with third-party calendar and contact apps.
Nextcloud excels at personal cloud storage, including contacts and calendars. You can store your contact information and calendar events on your own server, giving you complete control and privacy over your data.
Well, for various reasons I stopped hosting my own Hubzilla instance some years ago, but back then it absolutely had CalDAV and CardDAV. The problem was mainly that this wasn't well exposed in the Hubzilla web-interface, other than an event calendar. But with Thunderbird and DAVx5 etc. you could connect to it and manage it just fine. The WebDAV file storage part worked fine in the web-interface as well.
Edit: these parts are not federated though AFAIK (contrary to Nextcloud which does have some kind of file-sharing federation).
It's true that Hubzilla has access permissions for files on your WebDAV folder, and those access permissions sort of federate to other Zot protocol using sites (but not the wider Fediverse), but Nextcloud also has its own inter-Nextcloud federation where you can access files on other Nextcloud instances right inside your Nextcloud.
those access permissions sort of federate to other Zot protocol using sites (but not the wider Fediverse),
there were improvements done in the last years... so with the OCAP function ( /settings/privacy ) and guest tokens ( /tokens ) we can share permissions for files across the Fediverse ... and even to people who do not have a Fedi Account jet
I don't really have a need for most of the features Hubzilla offers, so I think I'll stick to my Akkoma instance. But I encourage people to check out Hubzilla, as it is a neat project overall.
Hubzilla and Nextcloud both offer features for managing contacts and calendars, but they cater to different needs:
Hubzilla focuses on social networking and doesn’t have built-in calendar or contact management features. However, some Hubzilla servers offer integrations with third-party calendar and contact apps.
Nextcloud excels at personal cloud storage, including contacts and calendars. You can store your contact information and calendar events on your own server, giving you complete control and privacy over your data.
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Hubzilla has a build calendar and has a contact management, also a personal cloud storage and gives you complete control and privacy over your data.
As much as I find the idea great. The killer feature of TikTok is how easy it is to publish a video with filters and musics. Not sure how well a federated application can follow.
Then, there is TikTok algorithm which is a common critic of the app but is how you get a never-ending flow of content which isn't uninteresting enough for you to turn the app off
Then, there is TikTok algorithm which is a common critic of the app but is how you get a never-ending flow of content which isn't uninteresting enough for you to turn the app off
I think there needs to be some kind of discovery algorithm for new users with an empty feed (or even existing users who just wanna find something new) but a federated alternative doesn't need something as powerful as the tiktok algorithm to be a decent replacement. It doesn't need to surface a "never-ending flow of content" because it doesn't have a financial incentive to keep you in the app endlessly.
Reddit was a great idea - common software providing free access to diverse communities needing only a single account to access them all. Fuck spez for screwing it all up by being a greedy pig boy:-(.
Without knowing the financial history of the place, it seems a good case study in something that could have gone for the sustainable stalwart of the internet path but instead fell to the dark silicon valley profit/growth side of things. With wikipedia being the only great success (AFAIK) at forging solid and sustainable foundations for the internet, I suppose the lesson is that it has to be non-profit, or open-source (or both) from the beginning.
In a way, it is kinda on many of us for not realising this and pushing against it sooner.
One of the great things coming out of the fediverse (and bluesky too at the moment) is all of the open software being developed that will hopefully plant seeds that will last a long time.
It absolutely is imho. Like at some point it was not social media as it became later, following (well, attempting to) the financial success of Facebook and Twitter/X, and instead people could submit long-form answers to questions, rather than merely vomit their feelings into the never-ending stream of others doing the same.
^This
I also choose this guy's wife
And my bow
etc.
By deprioritizing people finding answers and instead encouraging them to make new posts all on their own to ask the question yet again, over & over, spez tried to make money and enshittified Reddit by taking it away from its original purpose that had given it such a reputation for being great.
So it's not "having ads" that destroyed it, but the chasing after ad revenue at all costs that was driving it into the dirt. Even before the protests revealed that starkly to us all that the Reddit we had known and use to love was dead - spez had stolen it, he took our efforts and that ad-bloated, authoritatian-modded corpse was what was leftover. And it wasn't even bc of profits alone, but greed in chasing short-term profits above all else, including long-term profits. Aka capitalism killed it.
Yeah, totally. As someone who used reddit for 10 years and had comment karma in the several hundreds of thousands, it still pisses me off that it was ruined in the way it was
@sabreW4K3 Plume doesn't appear to be active, unfortunately 🥺
There's a notice on the official Join Plume website saying the former developers don't have the time to maintain it anymore. Most of the former public instances now throw up errors of various kinds.
WriteFreely ( @writefreely ) is alive and well. I was seriously toying with the idea of setting up a blog through its main instance, which is called Write.as Professional. The sticking point for me was that the official on-platform monetisation tool (Coil) appears to be dead, and doesn't support members-only posts (like Ghost).
Ghost, when federation goes live, looks like it will be the best option for my blog.
WordPress plus @pfefferle 's plugins is another great option, depending on what you want to use it for. (There's no shortage of WP plugins!)
As for Lemmy, I could see a blogging-focussed front end being created for it, in the same way FediBB put a traditional message board front end on it, but one doesn't appear to exist at present.
It's a real shame about Plume. I actually saw that notice on the Plume website, but thought as long as I can get it up and running, it can't be so bad.
I've spent the best part of this week trying to get WriteFreely up and running locally as I just want to host a couple blogs without having to agree to let LLMs harvest my musings, but alas, WriteFreely doesn't work with Docker and the community is MIA.
Ghost was something I was excited about but it only allows one blog per instance, so it's not even worth getting excited about the upcoming federation implementation.
WordPress as a company are happy to get into bed with LLMs, so I'm holding them at arms length.
As for Lemmy, it's far too cumbersome and not adept at blogging. But it's an amazing link aggregator.
Yeah its been a journey. My cakeday for the an account I made on ml would be about now, and I think its around a month till this account is officially a year old.
Its an odd time to be on a platform like lemmy.
We're seeing an almost complete adulteration of what we might call the internet 2.0 era sites into walled gardens of exclusion. Effectively, the stealing, en-masse of almost two decades of user generated content. The walls and gates of the gardens we planted get higher everyday; the enshittification of all things.
And yet here we are. On a self-hosted, federated, unbought, unbroken, and unbent platform. Obviously its not all roses, but for what its worth, both the users and developers have created something incredibly special: A ray of hope in a time where it seems like the world has only been changing for the worse. And while the instances have their differencs, we should be looking to embrace those differences as much as possible, because this is what truly gives the fediverse strength. If its Kbin or Lemmy or Mastadon; or .ml or .world or .blahaj.zone.
The point of the fediverse isn't consolidation or control, but distribution and access. There is so much more possible simply because enough of us were willing to make the journey over here. We're providing the future with an alternative that isn't tracking them, trying to manipulate them with an algorithm, or to turn them into commodities. There is power in that.
So happy cakeday. Happy cake season to those who were messing around with a browser plug-in about this time last year, trying to delete their reddit history. Happy cakeday to the developers, to those who post, and to the commenters. And most of all, happy cake day to you dear lemming reading this. You make this place happen.
I was very active on Reddit for a long time but for some reason I also don't miss it. I think it's because the big subreddits felt "too big" for quite some time before and even in the smaller subreddits there was often too much unnecessary negativity.
Hahaha I remember that shitshow! Hexbear dunking on reactionaries and their federation were especially fun times! Oh and the lemmy.world "preemptive last resort"! Good times, either way I'm glad other instances exist besides the containment one of world. Love to have you guys here.
And to think I've been on lemmygrad since GenZedong got quarantined. Holy shit it's been a while.
Happy to be here. It'll be interesting to see how it grows, but I'm happy with it being a smaller crowd for now. Feels like I have many more pleasant and meaningful chats on here than I ever did on Reddit.
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