Probably the are navegatin in new and as soon as they see non-english they downvote. These people doesn't even have a single post in other than english,
You vastly underestimate the idiocy and childishness of Americans. I've seen people comment things like "use English, this is a US website", "go to another site for your own country if you want to use anything other than English", etc. even though the posts were in communities/subs specific for the language the post was in.
This has always been a thing online.
Many Americans are so dumb they think they are the vast majority on any website, and everything should be via their rules and ways. And there are several other things that seemingly only Americans are dumb enough to do and/or to not understand, things like timezones (even though they have several within their country), that the vast majority of the world uses Metric, that not every country has the same products or services, that their subjective experience of anything is in fact subjective, etc. I could go on for several more paragraphs with things like this.
Fact: the US uses the metric system for decades (maybe closer to a century?). All federal contracts in the US must be in metric. Its not the same at the State level, and its not mandated for private businesses--unless they're working for the federal government.
Also every US American is taught metric in schools.
FWIW I don't think this is a real issue. It is right now because Lemmy is fairly new and small. But over time it will become obvious which communities are popular and people will go there. I think there is a small issue because local communities are sort of given priority as /communities defaults to "Local". But that sort of seems like the end of the list.
Just like it isn't an issue that people can create "Cats" and "CuteCats" on Reddit I don't think it is an issue that you can create cats@a.example and cats@b.example. Over time people will find and participate in whichever popular community matches their preferences.
I don't like the idea of global "Multi-communities" as now there are more instance admins that have control over a community. I think that in general mods should have the most control, instance admins being necessary due to an implementation detail (communities are bound to servers) and should only need to step in for extreme cases. (Like violating server rules)
I don't mind "Communities following communities" as much but I fail to see the point. If you think that another community is a good place to have a discussion why not just tell your members that you recommend moving there? I can see this working as a "Public Playlist" style idea where you can subscribe to follow recommended communities. I think having the option to post to both a followed community or the community that is doing the following is unnecessarily confusing. Basically I would make this as more of a discovery feature than a way to merge communities together.
Yes, I agree with this. I wrote a blog post about this a while ago. postlemmy discussion.
TL;DR communities on Lemmy are federated and highly dependent on the instance that they live on. If the source instance gets banned or goes offline the community will effectively go offline too.
This can be compared to Matrix rooms which don't really live on any specific instance and continue even if the source instance goes offline. Defederation will prevent users from seeing posts from users on the blocked instance, but the room itself isn't affected.
However I feel that trying to solve this by supporting some form of community merging would likely just be papering over the problem. The only way to really solve this is by properly decentralizing communities.
Anything that works client side or via a 3rd party aggregator is going to be a hassle for moderation.
I guess a subscription option that moderators can opt in themselves would be OK, but I don't think it will be used much.
In the end it is simply a wrong impression that these communities are duplicates. A community is part of a specific server and usually has a set of regular contributors. This together is the community and not some rather arbitrary name that it might also share with other communities.
It makes sense to not use English if the target audience is known to not speak it, but it is often not the case.
English is the most commonly spoken language in the world, after all. To not use it, is to make the content less searchable and harder to understand for billions of people.
Over a billion of those people have learned it as their second language simply to understand and be understood by each other. Is it really that weird that those who can't be bothered to do the same get downvoted?
Except not everyone has learned english, not everyone can especially older people.
Lemmy has that feature built-in that communities can support arbitrary languages. If you don't want to see them you can literally just pick your languages in your profile, and it'll automatically ignore what you can't read.
A bit weird in practice, but it's intended from the start to be available in everyone's languages without having to make news-de, news-fr, news-es communities or have to rely on regional instances.
If we went with maximizing who can read your post then it should be in Chinese. The assumption that english is the default language for everything is very american.
What about "if the target audience is known to not speak it" part do you not understand?
It's one thing to have your little community in whatever language and post there.
It's another to show up in a very much international community and start posting in whatever random language you want. Or, worse, start replying to comments written in English using your language. Like this guy. Just... How do you even do that? Aren't you supposed to kind of speak English to even understand the content of a comment you're replying to? Why not respond using it, then?
I'm not a native English speaker. My friends aren't either. Yet we all use it for pretty much the same reason. And if you think you can just chime in, go "你的母亲是只仓鼠,你父亲满身接骨木的气味", and be both perfectly understood and not downvoted, you're either a troll or an idiot.
I just tried signing up at fedia.io, and I got the response "429 Too Many Requests". It doesn't inspire confidence that I can't sign up for the largest and most popular (and represented in the screenshot above) instance.
That was the instance I signed up at, about 10 mins before I posted this link. Lemmy also went down in the last day, so nothing is bulletproof. But the site is working as I'm browsing and commenting right now.
Yeah, I definitely understand, which is why I moved off of lemmy.world. But the other mbin instances are really small in terms of members, so that makes me nervous that they aren't going to be around long term. I get it, there's no guarantee with any instance, but one that has a miniscule number of users makes me gun shy.
Well I can promise that my 2 instances will be around for a while :D
That would be https://thebrainbin.org (English, stable) and https://gehirneimer.de (German, uses with some of the latest commits for testing)
On social networks for a long time, with excellent translators available, I don't really care what language a post is written in. In this way I have found a lot of information, new things and very interesting contributions, which I would have missed by using filters.
If the inbuid translator in your browser isn't enough, these are anyway better (both FOSS). Maybe the best ones you can find. both multi-engine, full customizable. Translate full page, selection, words, inverse translation, more than 120 lenguages.
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