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Cowbee ,
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Based.

Linkerbaan ,
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Super based.

HawlSera ,

Based

Crikeste ,

Vote for Biden: 15,000 dead children by his aid.

The founding fathers of this country would be disgusted with your apathy.

Gradually_Adjusting ,
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  1. Fuck those chumps, this country isn't their problem any more
  2. The only way this country stops sucking so bad is if lefties get very serious in a big way
Cowbee ,
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The founding fathers would be applauding, lol. They were slave owning Capitalists.

PanoptiDon ,

Peace is never an option with fascism

PanoptiDon ,

Source: Luigi

nondescripthandle ,

This nonviolent stuff'll get you killed.

Linkerbaan ,
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It's important for two reasons

First to build support and legimize a cause. if politicians actually listen then the violence would not have been justified yet Exemplified by schools that divested from israel without calling in the cops first.

Second it is the only way a movement can grow mainstream before turning to violence.The Black Panthers got so many members because MLK did his non violent thing for years.

sverit ,

Relevant Owlturd/Shencomix comic
https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/66f492dc-a9c6-4388-a95f-bf7f1919e54d.jpeg

fukurthumz420 ,

this is a great post. i think people have trouble understanding that great acts of violence can be born out of love for humanity. there are people in society that are threats to humanity. those people cannot be saved by love. many powerful positions are only achievable by people who lack empathy.

many people also have a hard time understanding that goose and gander arguments only confuse simple truths. we are not all equal. just because you use the same tools that evil uses does not make you evil. evil will use those tools regardless of your morals. just because you choose the high road doesn't mean that evil will do the same.

we have an obligation as wardens of this world to insure that we don't destroy it. that might mean weeding out those of us that would do irreparable harm.

Facebones ,

I'm a combat vet and like some others realize it was for a bunch of bullshit. I'm pretty leftist and personally am pretty anti violence because of my experiences.

That being said, some systems and people only speak one language. Trying to talk to them in "human respect" and "compromise" is like trying to talk to a Frenchman in Chinese - if the options are violence or getting steamrolled then it is what it is. 🤷

menas ,

Yes. But General Strike. But Yes

iknowitwheniseeit ,

A general strike will almost certainly be met with violence. So comrades need to plan their reaction in advance. This could be taking the punches, or not....

menas ,

I do agree, but in case of violence, I'd rather have the control of food, logistics, communication and ammunition by our side. That's a "lesser violence" plan

BilboBargains ,

By the time it comes to violence, you've already lost the game.

db0 OP ,
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Take a look at budget market Buddha over here...

explodicle ,

Bilbo getting senselessly beaten by goblins: "You know I could fight back, but that's just adding more violence."

CileTheSane ,
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Yup, the allies totally lost WW2. If only they showed Hitler love instead surely he would have stopped with the genocide.

BilboBargains ,

Why not read a book for a change.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economic_Consequences_of_the_Peace

CileTheSane ,
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Well you approached me a poor attempt at an insult, so of course I'm going to be receptive to what you're trying to say... /s

BilboBargains ,

Bringing that toxic Reddit energy.

31337 ,

Some men, you just can't reach

KillingTimeItself ,

mario got luigi acting up i guess.

Kolanaki ,
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Does it count as love if I love violence? 🤔

VinnyDaCat ,

I'm fairly anti-violence but I know it's inevitable.

The world has a lot of social issues, and it's going to take a complete upheaval before people become capable of empathizing with each other again.

Liz ,

The thing is it's actually not inevitable. I suggest you read "How Civil Wars Start and How to Stop Them," which is about exactly what it says it's about.

VinnyDaCat ,

I'm not necessarily thinking about just civil wars, although that is what the meme is about.

People are divided in more ways than just political view points. There's a growing inequality that could potentially lead to a revolution of sorts, if people are willing. I can think of a handful of other issues that might lead to similar outcomes.

I appreciate the recommendation though, I'll try to give it a read at some point.

Liz ,

Modern civil wars look nothing like the American civil war. What you're imagining is probably within the scope of the book.

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