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Magnetic_dud ,

For years I assumed he was just a student in college arguing for something and not an actual POS 😢

blackmage ,

This is hilarious. Crowder is a POS.

saigot ,

Wait why are we mad at Calvi and Hobbs?

Appoxo ,
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We are not. OP writes about the regular "change my mind" meme guy

StephniBefni ,

We aren't. Op is saying we should use this instead of the template with Steven crowder cause Steven crowder is a piece of shit.

saigot ,

But why do we want to make memes making fun of Calvin if they didn't do anything wrong?

MargotRobbie ,
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If you don't know how shitty of a person Steven Crowder is, take a look at this video (tw: verbal abuse) of him berating his pregnant wife.

His whole thing with "Change My Mind" is him going around to college campuses and debate-lording unprepared college students, and at the first sign of losing he weasels out.

Crack0n7uesday ,

Didn't his wife cheat on him or some shit and he's in the middle of divorce right now?

Ginger666 ,

Who even is that

Senal ,

it's Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes

Appoxo ,
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The name on the poster.

FritzGman ,

Why would anyone care who the stereotypical white dude is? That is giving importance/energy to the wrong thing. I didn't even really notice nor care who he was (and still don't). That said, I don't generate memes with him in it so I guess I'm doing my part. 🤷🏻‍♂️

supersquirrel ,

Why would anyone care who the stereotypical white dude is?

Because he doesn’t deserve to be the guy in the meme. Think about all the other actually cool people who have been immortalized in silly memes, a lot of times they get interviewed and it is really funny. Everybody enjoys on some level that the person in the funny meme they are looking at is actually a real human being who has the goofy honor of being famous for the really specific, niche context of that meme.

Why give that joy to a complete asshole and loser? Why give it to a media personality who spreads hate? Who cares if nobody recognizes who Crowder is, Crowder doesn’t even deserve to be interfaced with as an anonymous white dude in a meme, it takes away the necessary shame Crowder should experience at every interface with the broader public.

NostraDavid ,
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Within the context of the meme it's a guy with a mug and an exploitable sign on his table. Nothing more.

This shit sounds pretty tiring, IMO :/

Jax ,

Are you trying to suggest that the literal image of the man who created the meme has nothing to do with the man himself?

Yes I understand the question "who is that?" may not occur to you. It does to others, and results in this pile of dirt getting free traffic.

ryathal ,

Most memes have nothing to do with the person in the meme. I doubt crowder himself made the meme, even if he did it doesn't really matter as the meme has transcended the person st this point.

Jax ,

His change my mind videos quite literally spawned the meme. His platform became more popular because of the meme.

Do you even know anything about crowder or are you just talking out of your ass?

FritzGman ,

I really don't give a shit about internet famous people and now, I also don't care why anyone else cares. I'm sorry I ever asked the question.

palad1n ,

Do you have to specify whiteness? By definition, You are not far from him

FritzGman ,

Only because he's white. If he was black, I would have said stereotypical black. I wasn't addressing this at you. I'll edit to say stereotypical douche bag frat boy turd thing.

This is why giving importance to "not the focus" of the message gets in the way. Now we aren't talking about -insert meme here- anymore. We are talking about someone's personal issue with how I phrased something. Honestly, just proves the point of getting distracted by irrelevant things.

Senal ,

Are you genuinely struggling to understand why people who think he's actively saying hateful shit about trans people wouldn't necessarily want to increase his presence in the general Zeitgeist?

Or did you just want to slip in the "stereotypical white guy" dog whistle?

If you are actually struggling, i can probably help.

imagine a person saying horrible shit about you, specifically.

Now imagine they have a platform where they say this hateful shit to lots of people, enough that you sometimes run across these people and they also say hateful shit to you, perhaps worse.

Now imagine an unrelated meme is made with this persons face on it and you see it 5,10,15 times a week.

Now imagine that the comments on most of these memes feature a whole bunch of people defending this person and agreeing with the hateful shit they said about you.

I'd imagine that's why some people care.

Genuine question though, what would be the right thing to give the energy/importance to in this scenario?

Melatonin ,

While I appreciate that he is a transphobe, and that may be the nexus between him and yourself, he's a whole lot more than that.

It's one of his many assaults against decent humanity.

AeonFelis ,
BreakDecks ,

Only use the original macro for dunking on Crowder.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/d971833c-b975-4d76-b6a6-bb45b9f1e73c.jpeg

NigelFrobisher ,

Spoilers - he didn’t want anyone to change his mind.

riodoro1 ,

Calvin! Watch your mouth!

96VXb9ktTjFnRi ,

Never heard of the man. Sometimes I wish we the internet would pay more attention to people that inspire us than to people that disgust us.

OADINC ,
Tartas1995 ,

To be fair, he is racist too!!!

Ultraviolet ,

And sexist, homophobic, antisemitic, the whole right wing dipshit starter pack.

Tartas1995 ,

Honestly I don't remember anything directly antisemitic from him, some of his guests were, if I remember correctly, but not directly from him. Do you happen to know an example of him being openly antisemitic? Not that it matters, he probably is in private.

Ultraviolet ,

I might be mistaking him with one of the other major grifters; the Venn diagram between racists, homophobes, transphobes, and antisemites is a circle.

Tartas1995 ,

The Venn diagram is a circle but the outspoken XYZ Venn diagram is not a circle, some are smart enough to shut the fuck up.

BudgetBandit ,
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