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capital ,

I hadn’t watched Vaush for some time so I had to look this up… lol what the fuck?

https://knowyourmeme.com/editorials/guides/what-was-in-the-folder-twitch-streamer-vaush-accidentally-showed-on-stream-the-viral-horse-photo-controversy-explained

Sanctus ,
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Well, due to his responses, I would say he is taking it rather horsely.

squid_slime , (edited )
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Nah hes getting goblined up by his community

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

You missed a perfectly good opportunity to say neigh/nay and you went with nah.

squid_slime ,
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I failed you

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Neigh, goblined up was good.

andrewrgross , (edited )
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It feels silly to ridicule Vaush for jacking off to hentai.

I'd rather people ridicule him for being just an insufferable troll. And I say this as a leftist: he doesn't seem to add anything to the discourse.

rockSlayer ,

He's a sophist that's more concerned about winning arguments than seeking truth. That's why he doesn't contribute anything to the conversation.

andrewrgross ,
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Well said.

candyman337 ,
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This link calls him a socialist steamer? Isn't he a right wing nut?

BT_7274 ,

Nah. Ultra left socialist.

Deceptichum ,
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So he advocates for violently overthrowing the state and engaging in armed class war?

Honestly he sounds more like a shitlib from the description posted below.

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
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He is what we call a "radlib - radical liberal": essentially a progressive liberal who use socialist aesthetics and slogans for clicks but it's really just "vote for Biden" with spicy sauce.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Ooh I've never heard that one.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Radlib

Fits him perfectly from the sounds of it

Omega_Haxors ,

Radlibs don't drop the Jewish Question. He's flat out cryptofash.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

And what is that?

Omega_Haxors ,

A Nazi conspiracy theory that Jewish people had a disproportionate control over the banking systems. The "answer" being the Holocaust.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Ah right, yeah that'd certainly rule them right out.

Count042 ,

If you can describe someone that backs every US war as a socialist. I sure as shit don't.

Managed opposition?

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

He backs every US war?

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

Kochinski is a self-described progressive,[15] anti-fascist,[39][40] and libertarian socialist.[13][31][40] He has also described himself as a "dirtbag leftist" and "a big fan of democracy".[39][14] In the 2020 United States presidential election, he opposed the "Bernie or Bust" movement and urged people to vote for Joe Biden,[13] calling a refusal to vote "stupid" and motivated by "[an] incredibly narcissistic 'doomerism' that prevents people from engaging in meaningful action".[13] Kochinski opposes the United States embargo against Cuba and supported the withdrawal of United States troops from Afghanistan. He also opposed Donald Trump's withdrawal of United States troops from Rojava.[41] While believing that tech companies have too much power, Kochinski also felt that Donald Trump being banned from various social media websites was an "unequivocally good thing".[13] In 2022, Kochinski posted multiple videos and broadcast multiple livestreams condemning the Russian invasion of Ukraine.[40][42]

Kochinski has criticized the online right for creating a "pipeline" that pushes people to radical hard-right views such as ethnic nationalism, disenfranchising women and for engaging in "absolute abject cruelty to trans people". He has also criticized the online left for "purity politics" and for engaging in actions that create "great content but terrible political advocacy".[13] Nonetheless, he believes that the left should engage in online advocacy because the internet allows for their message to reach a wider audience than any other medium and has argued that BreadTube has decreased the number of people online moving to the political right.[41] Following the arrest of manosphere influencer Andrew Tate, Vaush argued that Tate's rise to popularity was due to the left failing to address the problems of young men and boys, saying they were being "pulled into fascism" because "the right talks to them and the left doesn't".[43][44]

In May 2021, he opposed Twitch's use of the term "womxn", saying "There is already an inclusive term for trans women and cis women, and it's women ... The only reason you [would not] believe that is if you don't believe trans women are women."[45] He has criticized Twitter for banning trans people for using the term TERF, which he argues is "categorically not a slur".[24]

HerbalGamer ,
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libertarian socialist.

says enough.

exocrinous ,

Vaush hates narcissists? Well fuck him too

starman2112 ,
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May 2021, he opposed Twitch's use of the term "womxn", saying "There is already an inclusive term for trans women and cis women, and it's women ... The only reason you [would not] believe that is if you don't believe trans women are women."

Lmfao I forgot that twitch did a transphobia. "Gender neutral language" my nonspecific genitals, there is absolutely no way a legitimate progressive came up with the idea to use the word "womxn" specifically to refer to trans women

DharmaCurious ,
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Nope, he's a leftist. He just feels like a right wing nut.

Omega_Haxors , (edited )

He's not a leftist, he literally dropped the JQ in the noncompete debate when realizing he wouldn't capitulate to his fashbaiting.

The whole debate was like "Hey you're a fascist right?" "No i'm a communist" "Are you sure? Not even a little" "No i'm a communist. I believe in communism" "What about the Jewish Question" "I won't entertain that as I am a communist" "Well I think [drops the JQ]"

Count042 ,

JQ?

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

Sauce?

Omega_Haxors , (edited )

Jesus Christ no wonder you're asking. I was looking for the original and youtube just absolutely gaslighting the fuck out of anyone wanting to know more. Give me a bit I'll find it, it's pretty damning. EDIT: Not the best source but here it is https://youtu.be/7sBzWavg_oA?t=3496

EDIT2: Noncompete's prospective is a far better source as he goes into detail on what went wrong https://youtu.be/sQUU7gbzVbM?t=4569

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

Pretty damning indeed, thanks

DharmaCurious ,
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Holy shit. I wasn't even aware noncompete debated hin, tbh. I dropped out of basically everything for a few years there.

gh0stcassette ,
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Just looked up a screenshot out of morbid curiosity, none of it looks loli to me, but there is what seems to be a woman getting mounted by a Literal Horse, so that's something 💀

ThatWeirdGuy1001 ,
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That's weak sauce for the hentai community

starman2112 , (edited )
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He did say live on stream "I want to fuck a woman as a horse," and weirdly enough that's not even taken out of context

And I mean, I don't share his proclivities, but I wish I had the courage to talk as openly about what I'm into as he does

gh0stcassette ,
@gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Yeah ik, I assumed he meant Just the dick though, like how sometimes hentai will give people a canine dick. The image including a Straight Up Horse feels weirder to me.

starman2112 ,
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He addressed that too lmfao he wants to be the whole horse

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=1758&v=j2oA4wGsSf0&feature=youtu.be

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    ezchili ,

    I wouldn't have been able to tell any of that was loli porn from just the pictures if you hadn't told me to be honest

    gh0stcassette ,
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    Same, the third one isn't even Loli, that's Reagan from Inside Job, she's like 28. The others might be, but definitely not Obviously so

    starman2112 ,
    @starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

    That looks more like a jockey to me

    Now excuse me while I find some bleach

    potentiallynotfelix ,

    Lmaooooo who the hell saves porn on their PC they stream on? Disaster waiting to happen

    name_NULL111653 ,

    Exactly. People even stream on their actual PC desktops? Just use a VM or at least a separate login, duh

    potentiallynotfelix ,

    Or just have a hard drive you unplug. Idk I don't watch porn but if I did I wouldn't save it on my computer

    Traister101 ,

    Vaush did not in fact have any loli porn. One (some?) of the art he downloaded happened to be drawn by somebody who for some reason chose not to draw lolicon that day and Vaush innocently thought it looked hot. As somebody who spends way too much time on pixiv it's happened to me enough I've made a habit of thoroughly checking an artists profile cause some really freaky people love drawing normal stuff every once in awhile. It's quite off-putting.

    What we should really be talking about is the obvious AI art he had downloaded like a absolute troglodyte (and the horse stuff has been known for years but it's still funny)

    PotatoKat ,

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    Traister101 , (edited )

    Yeah so firstly Matsuri isn't actually a loli (though yes I'll admit that's intended to be loli art). But I also happen to know of that artist as they got me as well. For example NSFW Tasumaki from One Punch Man or NSFW Yor from Spy Family but then this same person will draw Takagi as a middle schooler taking a dick.

    Voosh clearly doesn't think very hard when downloading shit off Twitter cause the AI horse is really obvious. Pretty easy to believe that second Matsuri picture (the loli one) wasn't caught cause it's not obvious enough. Dude likes cock he's not paying much attention to anything else.

    Edit: Clarification

    PotatoKat ,

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    Traister101 ,

    AI generated slop. Wouldn't really call her a loli. Doesn't look like a child

    GundamWang ,

    that doesnt look like a child to me

    GundamWang ,

    100% horse
    0% loli

    tourist ,
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    I would not click that even if it brought deceased loved ones back from the dead.

    starman2112 ,
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    Someone said he had loli porn so it must be true

    Fudoshin ,
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    I only heard about horse porn. I remember pausing it briefly and everything I saw seemed vanilla. Just anime women.

    I dunno the obsession with labelling everyone a nonce and pervert. It's like perverts are one of the last groups people feel justified in hating. So people have started labelling non-perverts just so they can direct more hate.

    I guess, I just don't see why people are so addicted to hatred, rage and anger.

    starman2112 , (edited )
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    Fully agree. The allegation is because one of the pictures he saved was made by an artist that also draws animated child porn. But since nobody actually checks their sources, "he saved an image from an artist that also draws child porn" turned into "he saved child porn."

    The horse stuff is legit, and it's honestly weird as fuck that he wants to have sex with women as a horse, but that's the most vanilla shameful kink I've ever heard of

    Re: labelling everyone as nonces, people have been trying to label Vaush as a pedophile for years because of one take he had on discord about why the age of consent is placed where it is, and one argument he had where he made a very stupid remark equating child slavery to child porn. He said something along the lines of "I don't see why we have such a problem with child porn in our society when literally everything we have runs on child slavery in foreign countries," or something like that. He never said child porn should be legal, he said that child slavery shouldn't be.

    Omega_Haxors ,

    feddit uk user defending loli

    Checks out.

    Top response is a sh.ithead going "I agree"

    Checks out even harder.

    Fudoshin ,
    @Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar

    Since when am I defending loli? This is precisely what I'm talking about. I don't understand the visceral need to HATE and RAGE at everything?

    It could be about antisemities, Indians, pork scratchings, I don't give a fuck. I don't get why people feel the need to jump to conclusions (like you!) and label people things that they aren't.

    Turns out the guy didn't even have any fucking loli according to another comment!

    The Brass Eye Paedogeddon episode was taking the piss out of people like YOU.

    So you've not only labelled ME and this Vaush guy something we're not but you've got angry, shouted hurtful comments and been a complete cock all for what? What have you achieved?

    Do you feel better?

    Omega_Haxors ,

    Nah i'm out. I can smell the child-abuser liberalism on your clothes, i'm not going to engage that shit.

    Lydia_K ,
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    "You don't agree with me politically, therefore you must be a child abuser"

    Ah, the mark of the mature argument.

    Omega_Haxors ,

    You've never had the displeasure of having to deal with a neoliberal nonce I can tell. Twitter absolutely fucked me.

    ExLisper ,

    Who's Vaush?

    TheSlad ,

    Seconded

    rwhitisissle ,

    One of the litany of incredibly annoying people that make up the cesspool of "political youtube." He is, specifically, a leftist in some capacity. Maybe an anarcho-communist, maybe a syndicalist. Who knows? Probably not even him. Does a lot of debating and reacting to things.

    starman2112 ,
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    He's a leftist youtuber that makes a living being as incendiary as possible. People on the right hate him because he's a gay socialist, people on the left hate him because he says words like "retarded" and generally has takes like a Carolina Reaper. You're better off not knowing or caring about him, and I say that as a fan of his

    Johanno ,

    Ok independent of the person at question, what is wrong with images we see on his pc? Asking for a friend who might enjoy similar stuff.

    twoshoes ,

    Many people find sexualized depictions of minors reprehensible. Regardless of whether or not they are illustrations or photographs.

    Another argument I have heard is that people who consume loli might someday not be satisfied with drawings and escalate their consumption to photography or even try to act out their fantasies with real children.

    Also, lolicon is outlawed in many jurisdictions (or at least a grey area) since it might fall under cp laws.

    Personally I am suspicious of any "slippery slope" argument, but this topic is definitely not something I want to take a strong stance on.

    starman2112 ,
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    What sexualized depictions of minors were there?

    twoshoes ,

    I'm very much out of the loop actually, but the meme mentions Loli porn. So I assumed the question was about that.

    Also, I think somewhere in this thread someone posted a link to screenshots of the whole ordeal, and there is a drawing of a very young person fellating a horse.

    RustyOperator ,

    Why are so many people upset about the horse part of this? Like sure, I'm not into it, you're not into it, but think about it this way, lets say you could turn into any animal and retain your humanity and ability to consent, is there something wrong if animal you and someone else both consent to being intimate? After all you both still are people.

    From what I've heard about Vaush, I don't like him, but lets at least call him out for things that are actually bad.

    Tattorack ,
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    I'm mildly confused about which Vaush we're talking about...

    The Vaush I know also goes by Adam Wang; he's a furry artist who 100% depicts sex with minors in his artwork. So looking at this my first thought was... Well duh.

    But now I'm not sure if we're talking about the same guy...

    Cysioland ,
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    The Vaush I know also goes by Adam Wang; he's a furry artist who 100% depicts sex with minors in his artwork. So looking at this my first thought was... Well duh.

    No, that's Zaush

    MattWalsh OP , (edited )
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    You're thinking of Zaush. Vaush is some political streamer that accidentally showed his porn folder on stream and it had loli and drawn horse porn in it: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/vaush-opens-porn-folder-on-stream

    Tattorack ,
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    Ah, right. My bad. Funny, though, how they have such similar names.

    HerbalGamer ,
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    Such a funny coincidence.

    DriftinGrifter ,

    It didn't AFAIK the artist who made some of the stuff in his folder also made cp

    ComradeR ,

    My disdain for him started when he decided to be hostile to Luna Oi and NonCompete.

    some_guy ,

    Well, now I learned about that. And I still feel like I don't have enough info. Moving on.

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