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ILikeBoobies ,

Hilarious anyone would put their name into something autonomous

OldWoodFrame ,

Went to my glass door app to check and the first question was "what is your name? First last?"

sunbunman ,

John Doe

Patches ,

Don't worry they auto-fill it for you**

** Don't ask how they already know.

UnaSolaEstrellaLibre ,

One job.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

🎶 I don't know why

It doesn't even matter

how hard you try

Keep that in mind,

glassdoor was designed

To help employees in due time

all I know

data is a valuable thing

Watch our users fly by as enshittification swings

Watch it pile out to our IPO

The clock ticks money away 🎶

flop_leash_973 ,

This kind of thing is what has always kept me from using Blind as well.

A site used to talk shit about your current employor that has a registration process that requires you to hand out your work email, and they pinky promise not to ever provide that to anyone?

No thanks, even if they would never do it on purpose, they are one good breach away from it getting out anyway.

CosmicTurtle ,

Iirc the way that blind works is by verifying you work at a specific company but then that email address cannot be used again.

It's not associated with your specific account.

Someone who worked at blind explained that but there's no way to know this for sure.

UsernamesAreDifficult ,

I mean that site has always been pretty shady and likely has had paid review removals for years, but wow, that is honestly a next-level fuckup.

Albatross2724 ,

PSA to use fake info for just about every site you ever sign up for. Never offer PII unless you absolutely have to like with the bank or IRS.

Agent641 ,

I have about 5 or 6 aliases, full blown characters that live in my head, each with different names, addresses and backstories that I use. Even they lie about their personal circumstances sometimes. For example, on LinkedIn, John Longson works at Longson and Longson consulting, but he's the only employee, and he actually just works at a thrift store with a side hustle of selling second hand clothes on etsy under an alias.

vaultdweller013 ,
@vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works avatar

Mine are usually just remixes of my ancestors, for example ill just combine two random ancestors names and where one of them was from. Why yes random website I am Shadrak McNulty born in Littlerock Arkansas.

Agent641 , (edited )

Nice to meet you, Shadrak!

Albatross2724 ,

I guess that's one strategy but that's too much work for me. I just pay for unique email forwarding addresses to my main email and use fakenamegenerator.com for filling out fake PII. Also a password manager is key

LWD ,

If I need to fudge info, I tend to put it into a password database's "notes" field for easier note-keeping, FWIW.

Not a full-on identity, but bits of info like stated name, address, etc.

papertowels ,

Where's rusty shackleford work?

TAG ,
@TAG@lemmy.world avatar

LinkedIn is one of the few sites where I use my real name. It is for connecting with past and future coworkers, so they get my real identity.

Agent641 ,

Oh I have a real linkedin, but I have several fake ones for lurking as well.

QuantumBamboo ,
@QuantumBamboo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Why not present ones? And how do you know who you'll work with in the future?

TAG ,
@TAG@lemmy.world avatar

Right, I forgot that LinkedIn calls contacts "connection", doesn't it? I meant it in the sense of messaging them.

I have it for talking to past coworkers (in case I need a reference or want to discuss equity or something) and for talking to recruiters when I am looking for a job. My past two jobs I heard about via LinkedIn messages.

QuantumBamboo ,
@QuantumBamboo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I was being dumbly pendantic. Thank you for indulging me though!

Dozzi92 ,
@Dozzi92@lemmy.world avatar

What happened to the other Longson?

ouRKaoS ,

That's the alias he sells under on Etsy

cybersandwich ,

Lol wtf is the point of linkedin specifically if you don't join with your real info?

You just browsing people's profiles? Friend requesting your other aliases?

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

It's kinda like Facebook now, which is pretty strange.

FarmTaco ,

Art Vandelay, Vandelay Industries, we import/export.

Evade5415 ,

I heard he was thinking about quitting exporting to focus on the importing.

nickiwest ,

We also would have accepted Rusty Shackleford.

MNByChoice ,

This is good.

I like to use password managers to make up names.

If I am feeling spicy. It is me. Imene Shayma. (A joke. Follow the link.)

fosstulate ,
@fosstulate@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Sound advice, but if this article is any indication, corporate web2 now anticipates garbage. The junk presumably gets backfilled with their best attempt at quality data where it can be found. It true, it invites potential contributors to think carefully about their opsec.

phoneymouse ,

I didn’t input my employer, so they just pull my email domain and it says like “Project Manager at MyEmailDomain” in my profile now. What a load of horse shit.

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Glass door used to be interesting, but this site is total trash now. You can’t do anything without creating an account and filling out a bunch of shit. That site is basically a dark pattern hall of fame.

They probably really crippled the long term growth of that company by making stupid short term greedy decisions that killed the user experience and scared people away.

JonEFive ,

Just as venture capitalism demands.

Nindelofocho ,

Its almost as if they got bought out by a company that didnt want workers to have an opinion

KillingTimeItself ,

i genuinely cannot believe that people use their real info on these sites. Actually fucking stupid.

blind3rdeye ,

According to the article, people generally don't use their real info on this site, but the site is making dubious inferences that allow them to pull the info from other sources to auto-populate the 'real' fields in their site.

rar ,

That's even worse. I bet there are tons of false positives and people facing consequences at job for bad reviews Glassdoor thinks they wrote.

KillingTimeItself ,

ah yes, this definitely is legal, and will continue to be legal. I'm sure.

watersnipje ,

This cannot possibly be legal in Europe.

afraid_of_zombies ,

It is a bit surprising. I must have had at least 8 fake accounts there just to bash one of my ex-employers. Took a whole star off their rating.

KillingTimeItself ,

damn, i love some good "business fraud"

afraid_of_zombies ,

Pretty sure it would just be lying since you know, no financial gain. Except it isn't even full lying since I did tell the truth about the company. I admit I might have gone a bit over the top when they announced that they bought another company and I tracked down every employee of that company to write them an email detailing exactly how they would be gutted with references to other companies that had been bought up and suffered the same fate by the same new parent company. Then of course found out they still had a fax number and sent them a fax. Had to make sure IT didn't try to hide it.

Maybe don't buy a small engineering/manufacturing company, outsource it all to China, and and all the while slash R&D + personal and you won't have people over a decade later still bashing you on Glassdoor.

KillingTimeItself ,

im sure the business higher ups would have something to say about it, frankly i was just shitposting.

It's in quotes for a reason lol.

Ah, it was manufacturing, you know what, totally justified, who cares. this is moral.

afraid_of_zombies ,

im sure the business higher ups would have something to say about it, frankly i was just shitposting.

I do know where the CEO who sold us out for tens of millions of dollars lives. Think I should drive over and discuss the matter with him?

KillingTimeItself ,

perhaps deliver him a spicy bottle. Although for legal reasons. This statement is merely a reflection of modern satirical humor, and is commentating on the modern socio-political climate.

capital ,

I wonder what pushed them to start verifying ID?

Dhrystone ,
@Dhrystone@infosec.pub avatar

Did Glassdoor somehow force users to use their real names on the site?

baru ,

That's explained in the article. If Glassdoor somehow learns of the real name of an account they'll silently add that information to the account. Glassdoor is meant to be anonymous so such action can lead to repercussions.

rickyrigatoni ,
@rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee avatar

That’s explained in the article.

You think any of us can read?

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

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I_LOVE_VEKOMA_SLC ,

Yes, which is who the head will jam the time it didn't. Unless yes.

_lilith ,
@_lilith@lemmy.world avatar

They were automatically updating their profiles with info from 3rd party sources. This resulted in personal information being displayed without consent or warning, and wild inaccuracies like updating a profile to say a man was based in london when he was still very much in california

Zacryon ,

Aaand there goes another service again, which I've never used and now will probably never even think about using.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

This is just a plain fuckup that should have gotten entire VPs fired.

Starkstruck ,

Best we can do is more executive bonuses

himmyguap ,

But most likely they are just failing up.

0421008445828ceb46f496700a5fa6 ,
@0421008445828ceb46f496700a5fa6@kbin.social avatar

I wanted to leave a review a while back but when they asked for my name I figured with so many data breaches it was going to get revealed at some point, it's ridiculous they did it on purpose tho

admiralteal ,

I did the same thing twice.

Two different employers that really deserve to be absolutely thrashed but as soon as I got to the point where it was asking me my true identity I realized there was no hope it wouldn't come back to bite me in the long run.

I understand why in their business model they want to be able to verify employment. I'd even say it's reasonable. But the Privacy implications of it are just too tremendous and they I've never been practically or systemically trustworthy.

And knowing this about them means they aren't a reliable place to be warned off of a bad employer either. The primary purpose of their site is completely undermined by this bad policy.

Th4tGuyII ,
@Th4tGuyII@kbin.social avatar

Exactly how do Glassdoor expect people to give earnest reviews of their employers (which is literally the core of their business) if those people can't trust Glassdoor to not to throw them under the bus when they give honest reviews of malicious employers?

Talk about sabotaging your own business model - idiots.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

earnest reviews of their employers (which is literally the core of their business

I don't understand the need for a site like this. I just assume that my employer is going to suck in standard corporate suck fashion.

Kroxx ,

There are levels to that suck though

BleatingZombie ,

And sometimes it's not just corporate suck. I've literally had the CIO of a construction contractor berate me on the phone before I had started. Needless to say I didn't take their offer

laughterlaughter ,

Name and shame. And publish your real name while you're at it.

BleatingZombie ,

Haha. I really want to do the first part, but relatively local to my region. I'd rather not give that out right now :\

afraid_of_zombies ,

Same. Got screamed at before the interview. don't know why I even bothered going, maybe just curious how fucked up the place would be.

Left them a bad Google maps review which was kinda fun since they had zero reviews before I left one. They left a screaming reply to it hahah

watersnipje ,

What happened that they screamed at you even before an interview?

afraid_of_zombies ,

Was a long time ago but I remember it was something small like I had used my old snail mail address on my resume vs my cover-letter.

But hey they bought me lunch so it wasn't a total lost and I got to see all the people running the place act like total assholes to each other. So dinner and a show.

RaoulDook ,

I've had a couple of good jobs where I was treated well and compensated well all around. Companies like that would be glad to have reviews from happy employees visible to the public on a trustworthy review site.

helpImTrappedOnline , (edited )

There's the normal suck, then there's "I (been there 12 years) got passed up for promotion to replace my boss who retired because the owner's nephew who worked with us for a few years (sucked and "volentarely" left 6 years ago) decided their cyptoscheme wasn't working out and needed a job, and that was the highest one paying one avalible."

Or the "Sally got verably harassed dailiy and they did nothing because the harrasser has been there 30 years. 'He's just an old man in his early 50s, older gentlemen call ladies nicknames like sweetcakes, honey, or cutie all the time. They also like to rub peoples shoulders to show affec to help relive the tension and promote a healthier work environment' "

jaemo ,

Ok, but if your expectations are permanent nerfed you're gonna be a much easier mark... Plus tacit acceptance of a shitty status quo is pretty self-defeating.

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Ok, but if your expectations are permanent nerfed you’re gonna be a much easier mark… Plus tacit acceptance of a shitty status quo is pretty self-defeating.

Thank you for saying this.

I don't get how so many people are so willing to just pull down their pants and bend over, instead of pushing back.

normalexit ,

Some are much more capable of disguising it during the interview process.

In the tech industry around the pandemic there was the great resignation and companies were tripping over themselves to employ as many people as possible. It was great then because you had so many options and they were all seemingly similar job descriptions.

Now the site is shitty and getting a job is terrible. Woo capitalism!

meep_launcher ,

Frankly I never trusted Glassdoor. I assume most reviews are made by the companies HR department to lie about how great it is. I just need to look at the reviews of the companies I've worked for to see that it's 99% bullshit.

Don't trust employers. They lie to you and underpay you.

afraid_of_zombies ,

That's why you only read the negative reviews

jjjalljs ,

There was one place a friend worked where all the glassdoor reviews said there were "growing pains". I don't think that many normal people who have intact souls would describe startup dysfunction as "growing pains."

afraid_of_zombies ,

It has its uses. And one bad employer can really mess you up for a while. It takes a lot of effort to have a low score on that site.

Th4tGuyII ,
@Th4tGuyII@kbin.social avatar

Because it's worth knowing beforehand what a company is really like behind closed doors.

Some companies are great, some suck in standard corporate fashion, but there are some out there that are exceptional in sucking...

I'll use myself an example... the last company I worked for, our team was constantly given deadlines that were impossible to meet within work hours. The company basically refused to pay for what was essentially mandatory overtime required to catch up - wage theft by a different name.

Fortunately my role allowed me to push back, but most of peers didn't - we were all straight out of university, some needed the money/job, but most just didn't know how to fight in the corporate environment.

Not to mention that a few folks who did try to complain against the company conveniently found themselves fired for some miscellaneous breaches of contract. From what I heard, one was even fired based on their reaction to being told they were being dismissed - quite literally entrapment.

If you're wondering why we didn't sue or anything like that, again we were all straight out of uni, we barely knew what our working rights were...

Which is why Glassdoor was important - it was how most of these folks got word out about the company and tried to warn other potential candidates of what they were walking into.

The company knew about it too because they posted multiple fake reviews to try to drown out the real ones. I know for a fact that if they were able to find out who posted these, they would have retaliated, likely in the form of litigation.

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

The anonymity was the whole point to that site.

Ajen ,

Exactly how do Glassdoor expect people to give earnest reviews of their employers

They don't. The enshitification has begun and they only care about short-term profits now that they've built up a user base.

MonkderZweite ,

If i understand this right, glassdoor is for anonymous tips/rating of emploers/working conditions?

Would that work as a Lemmy community?

Corkyskog ,

It had a lot of features, it could be its own thing on the Fediverse outside of Lemmy if enough people needed it.

CPMSP ,

An open - source, decentralized job board? Yeah, hopefully someone does that, I'm sure it would serve a great need.

JasonDJ ,

Building an open-source decentralized job board would look really good on a resume…

helpImTrappedOnline ,

The search and thread managment would be a nightmare, no? You'd need a thread for every company (larger ones needing multiple split by department or location).

There's probably a hundred business with in a mile of me.
Even if you splinter communities by location, the search would be difficult.

laughterlaughter ,

Yes. Let's start it!

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