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Treczoks ,

When companies protest against regulation while claiming that they already adhere to the same rules, then something is clearly off, and one better gets regulation through, because they plan to ditch that adherence as soon as the governmental regulations are off the table.

Buttons ,
@Buttons@programming.dev avatar

Let me plug Counter Points, a favorite political show of mine.

They recently talked about FTC Chair Lina Khan and Apple's monopoly, the government's anti-trust lawsuit against Apple, and monopolies in general. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMyChnACLKQ

It's tangential, but it came to mind.

If the cable companies want lawsuits, let's give them what they want in the form of anti-trust lawsuits and break them up.

Burn_The_Right ,

Fuck Ajit Pai. And fuck conservatives. They did this.

rusticus ,

Not just conservatives but Trump.

ATDA ,

'We know we're the bad guys so we're going to announce our intentions like a comic book villain....'

minkymunkey_7_7 ,

"And we also know that there's nothing you can ever do about it."

Ultragigagigantic ,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

Revoke their corporate charter, nationalize their infrastructure, sell it to municipal ISPs.

androogee ,

Shoot them all into the sun.

mPony ,

Nuke them from orbit - it's the only way to be sure

cordlesslamp ,

Don't you worry about collateral damages?

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemm.ee avatar

It's the only way to be sure!

Game over, man! Game over!

HoustonHenry ,

So now that's giant spiders and cable companies?

gamermanh ,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

They're a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes, that's for sure

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

apparently its less effort/energy to shoot them into deep space.

but either way is good.

dream_weasel ,

I mean yeah, the sun is in one place, space is basically anywhere else. It's easier to shoot anywhere than to shoot somewhere.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

hah, no, it really, really isn't like that at all. shooting straight north or south, for example, is really hard. going in the opposite direction of the earth's orbit is hard too.

earth is spinning around the sun. going in the direction the earth is trying to escape the sun from is easy.

dream_weasel ,

I have a pretty reasonable grasp of delta V. While my comment is flippant, you can launch Eastward from the equator any day and end up in space: deep space if you have sufficient velocity (though usually you'd do that with one or more gravity assists). The sun is the only other place you can go any day, but there's huge angular velocity to overcome to make a direct shot.

It really really is the case mathematically that if you just want to go to deep space it's not as difficult as trying to figure out how to go to a particular place, as anyone who has ever done trajectory planning with STK will tell you. More difficult from a cost and engineering perspective, sure, but mathematically easier to just shoot in a direction at escape velocity for the sun whatever day you want.

hansl ,

Nah, just allow communities to build their local infrastructure. Trust me. You don’t need to threaten the status quo, just allow the market to compete.

Every town where local fiber is available, Comcast and Spectrum suddenly have cheaper and more reliable service. It’s magical.

WarlordSdocy ,

I mean yeah that's what monopolies do. They eliminate competition by either buying it out or lowering their prices/improving service to drive them out of business so they can then raise prices again. Just cause a small company can come in and make things better while they're able to be around doesn't mean we shouldn't go after these monopolies and cut them down so they can't have this power.

hansl ,

Municipal broadband is not a small company though. It’s a cooperative owned by residents.

And in many states it’s actually illegal. Which makes no sense.

WarlordSdocy ,

Probably companies like Comcast making sure there isn't anything to disrupt their monopolies. Another reason to break them up so they can't have that much power.

spikederailed ,

I lived in Charlotte, NC when Google announced GFiber was coming. Instantly AT&T started running as much fiber as possible and Charter(spectrum) was trying to get people locked into cheaper 3 year contracts. Ultimately AT&T got fiber first so we went with them, and it was vastly better. Charter was getting 60% packet loss every night from oversold infrastructure they didn't care to fix, as before the announcement the only competition was AT&T uverse in some parts of the city.

phoneymouse ,

Jessica Rosenworcel is a champ. She has been fighting this fight for years. The week Ajit Pai (Ashit Pie) ended net neutrality using falsified public comments, a group gathered in front of the FCC to protest the change. I went down there for a few hours and Jessica came to the window and waved to us.

skygirl ,

Haha oh man it's weird to see this mentioned so many years later.

I helped organize that protest. Thanks for coming down with us!

phoneymouse ,

Thanks for organizing!

redfox ,
@redfox@infosec.pub avatar

Every piece of shit greedy corporation can't hide from their lies when they say things are too expensive to implement correctly or pay people appropriately when they are simultaneously posting profits measured in billions...

TheFriar ,

Those last couple paragraphs with the quotes from ISPs…make no fucking sense. They’re saying it will “restrict access for rural customers.” How? They say it’ll slow internet down across the nation. How? How can ARST.com just run those quotes and not even explain how they’re bullshit or even just call into question their reasoning? Shoddy journalism if you ask me.

FiniteBanjo ,

Good, let them use their money on litigation instead of lobbying.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Yup, I'm all for it. Put it in a ballot and we'll vote to enshrine it into law.

One of my general rules of thumb is: if cable companies are for it, it must suck.

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemm.ee avatar

I mean maybe they decided it was going to be easier to buy a judge than another FCC chair?

FiniteBanjo ,

Are there any past examples of companies getting out of fines that way? Even Facebook had to pay 20Bn, you would think they could have gotten a judge for only 15 if it were so easy.

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemm.ee avatar

There are plenty of examples of companies challenging the legality of regulations and winning, and other cases of apparent corruption among judges.

FiniteBanjo ,

Yes I was asking you to present one case in which an FCC ban or fine was avoided with the courts.

Fedizen ,

how are so many of Joe Brandon's appointees so good?

NatakuNox ,
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

Can't wait until my liberal city finishes our city owned isp. You can't trust business to be in control of essential services

ElectricAirship ,
@ElectricAirship@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

There was an academic paper put out a long time ago that basically argued for essential services like food, water, etc to be given non-profit status so corpo's couldn't do this sort of thing.

RemoveEgoDivineFreedom ,

Eat the rich. Fucking cunts.

daikiki ,

Eminent domain the final mile and be done with it. These companies have no business holding our national infrastructure hostage.

jkrtn ,

Fuck yes. Especially since the government already paid for infrastructure anyway.

uriel238 ,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Taxpayers have already paid them billions for broken promises. It's been long demonstrated the oligopolistic communications industry cannot be trusted to provide what the public needs at fair pricing.

Its time to nationalize ISPs.

blazera ,
@blazera@lemmy.world avatar

thats cool how money lets you just, reject consequences for years

DarkDarkHouse ,
@DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The one thing I learned at Trump University

Boozilla ,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

Works even better if you dye your skin orange and poop your pants.

Zorque ,

That's not money, that's being a convenient scapegoat for the people in power.

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Sure thing MAGAt trumpet.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

These people forget that they have to exist physically alongside us "citizens". Your layers of obfuscation won't save your reputation forever. Eventually people will be so tired of everything be stacked against us we'll just riot and take from these corpos.

reddig33 ,

Sounds like a good time to switch to 5G internet and cancel cable.

NateSwift ,

I just wish it wasn’t so latent :(

dunidane ,

Or if it was available most places.

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

I'm getting 40 ping is that good or bad?

NateSwift ,

40 is good. The 5g home internet I had a 6 months ago had around 200ms and I had to go back to cable

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