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vinyl ,

You can still bypass it by checking an option when using Rufus with the win11 iso

perestroika ,

/me listening to the sound of a WinXP virtual machine booting under Debian Linux

They can shoot their foot with a grenade launcher next. I'm already out of range.

Riker ,
@Riker@lemmy.world avatar

Don't mind me. Just setting up a Windows 10 torrent to download while I'm at work.

Christ I am sick of Win11.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

If you can, disable TPM in the bios so it doesn't just automatically update to windows 11, because it will try.

kayos ,

OOBE\BYPASSNRO FTW

Anonymousllama ,

They're really trying their best to make windows as unfriendly as possible, pretty annoying when they've already been paid, bunch of pricks

TheTimeKnife ,
@TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world avatar

Wow, exactly the feature I wanted. An account that Microsoft can link its spyware too. I'm sure that database won't be sold or stolen.

Sam_Bass ,

Ive had microsloth blocked for 3 years so they can jam all the jumpers they want

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Nothing new.

How is seemingly everybody blind to the actual workaround but "knows" about a supposed "bypass" email??

Actual solution/workaround: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/all/set-up-windows-11-without-internet-oobebypassnro/4fc44554-b416-4ecb-8961-6f79fd55ae0f

Voroxpete ,

It won't be long before they block that too. I really wouldn't put it past them to just say "Fuck it, no internet, no computer."

fne8w2ah ,

The Kingdom of Torvalds becomes more and more attractive for Windows refugees every day.

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Torvalds is King and Stallman is Priest of Holy GNUism

SoleInvictus ,

I did my part and am now a vassal of Lord Torvalds.

rc_buggy ,

No vassals, you are landed gentry. You own your machine now.

Womble ,

... The gentry were vasals, thats kinda the whole deal of feudalism.

rc_buggy ,

oh. hmm

Raglesnarf ,

for my main computer, sure, fine, whatever. I'll sign into my Microsoft account, I don't mind. but my Plex/Minecraft server... maaaaaaannnn come the fuck on. I guess my server can just stay windows 10 for the next 20 years 🤷🏻‍♂️

ashok36 ,

If all you're doing is plex and a minecraft server, look into proxmox or unraid.

Unraid is paid but very noob friendly compared to most others. It's also very flexible hardware wise.

Raglesnarf ,

I've heard great things about Free NAS. would unraid be similar to that?

ashok36 ,

They share similarities for sure. I've not used it though. I know unraid offers a 30 day testing license. Not sure about the others.

rc_buggy ,

I use TrueNAS and just checked: There is an available Minecraft app and also something called MineOS (seems to be a front end to make managing the server easier). My plex running through the same app ecosystem stays updated and hasn't failed me yet. I used to run the service separate from the NAS, but this is real nice.

FreeNAS and UnRaid probably have the same functionality.

Voroxpete ,

Why in God's name are you running either of those things on windows?

Raglesnarf ,

because it was super duper easy to setup and the overhead isn't all that bad for my use case. I am concerned whenever I decide to move/upgrade to something different since my hard drives are in a Windows "Storage pool" or whatever it's called

Voroxpete ,

In all seriousness, if you're self hosting anything, please learn your way around Docker and Linux. It's a small time investment up front for huge payoffs. You'll get more value out of your hardware, and you'll have a system that's much more reliable (Windows was not built for 24/7 uptime).

constantokra ,

In fairness, I've had several machines running versions of windows server with lots of uptime and zero stability issues. But the last time I ran a windows server is was advanced server 2003 so....

Voroxpete ,

Windows Server isn't so bad as a server platform, although it comes with a lot of unnecessary overhead, and its container support sucks. Given that containers are really the way to go with self-hosted services now, that makes Windows Server a poor choice.

But realistically, when most people say they're self hosting on Windows, they mean regular old consumer Windows, which absolutely hates running for extended periods without rebooting. It's just not built for uptime.

rc_buggy ,

I thought we weren't supposed to kink shame. Maybe /u/Raglesnarf is really into degradation and being dominated. Full on ball-busting, perhaps?

Voroxpete ,

Counter-point; if someone is into degradation specifically, wouldn't they be happy to be kink shamed?

ultratiem ,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

I can’t reveal too much but MS’s long game is to have everyone sign up for a Live account. They want to do what Apple did with Apple ID and iCloud, making every customer sign up for one. Expect more of this.

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

And this sort of thing is the prelude to them finally pulling off their "OS as a service" scheme and I guarantee you in a couple of years they will try to float a monthly subscription just to use Windows, tied to your M$ account.

ultratiem ,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

Pretty much. The thing is it’s done sooooo poorly. Like beyond hot trash. They are also bringing it to all their games, PC, mobile, what have you. It’ll get much worse just wait.

meliaesc ,

The announcement of the AI recall thing was enough to stop me from ever buying another Windows device. Best wishes for your job, though!

ultratiem ,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

I left last year lol. I read the writing on the wall 😁

Socsa ,

You can make local accounts on MacOS still.

southernbrewer ,

I've had a mac for years and still haven't had any need for an iCloud account. It's optional

StaySquared ,

Wow.. it's like Microsoft really does want to lose customers. Welp.. I guess I have to find a linux distro as my main driver. Ubuntu seems so damn user friendly and "mainstream" I might just stick to that. I'd play around with ArchLinux or Fedora, but fkin lol at a noob trying to setup either one through terminal/commands.

bizzle ,
@bizzle@lemmy.world avatar

If Ubuntu works for you then by all means use it, but if you're a computer guy already installing Arch the long way isn't that hard and they even have an install script now.

StaySquared ,

Oh nice! I think it was around 2018 when I attempted to install Arch. I'll check it out again sometime this week.

jsqribe ,

Or just use one of the forks like EndeavourOS which takes away all that work.

StaySquared ,

Noted!

PenisWenisGenius ,

If you haven't found one you like yet, consider trying Debian. It's basically the same as Ubuntu, everything works the same on Debian as in Ubuntu but it's better because of less bloat.

Due to a slower update schedule, it may be worse at steam proton gaming than arch or something with a rolling release because that stuff heavily depends on how up to date your mesa or Nvidia drivers are. I can play everything except Starfield on my Ubuntu 22.04 laptop pretty much.

ultratiem ,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

That’s the thing, they have such a monopoly, they are sort of impervious to losing customers. That trope is long dead. The belief that a mega corp can be dethroned thru sales hasn’t been a thing for nearly 20 years. MS has a monopoly on personal computers. The only they don’t control is mobile (and likely never will). But when it comes to desktop and laptops, they are untouchable.

GamingChairModel ,

they have such a monopoly

The major weakness in their desktop OS market dominance isn't from other desktop OSes. MacOS, ChromeOS, and traditional desktop Linux distros prevent Windows from being a total monopoly, but there's no doubt that Windows has quite a bit of market power.

The real competitive threat to Windows is from people who decide to not use a desktop computer at all. Between tablets and phones, there are a lot of people who no longer feel the need to have a laptop or desktop at all, for personal use.

And on that front, Windows being shittier than phones and tablets will cause people to slow down their upgrade cycle and maybe avoid using a traditional personal computer at all.

BeMoreCareful ,

But all businesses will have to buy office 365 subscriptions

Avatar_of_Self ,

You set up Fedora desktop distros with a GUI installer.

IndustryStandard ,

Does Rufus installer still give the option to bypass all this BS when flashing a windows ISO to a USB?

UnHidden ,

not yet, maybe they'll add it?

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Better. And it doesnt even require a modified wim:
During OOBE setup: Shift +F10
then input OOBE\BYPASSNRO

realitista ,

Windows is unusable without Rufus. So glad I used it.

JackbyDev ,

I did this on Windows 10 not because I didn't want my Microsoft account linked but because I wanted my username to by my first name and not like part of my first and part of my last name.

Natanael ,

I feel like recreating my account as a local one for this reason. I hate not having control over the filesystem and hate not having a normal looking username

JackbyDev ,

For real, I've been less annoyed with some of the usernames work has given me than the shit Windows 10 thought was a good idea.

Netrunner ,
@Netrunner@programming.dev avatar

Glad I use Arch.

Many years of windows. No longer my problems.

Jahuffine ,

I use Arch too btw

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

I'm joyed to use Gentoo

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