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RememberTheApollo_ ,

Just another CEO denigrating the work of those who make him rich.

Ganbat ,

Remember: Stealing from big, evil corporations is morally correct.

BaardFigur ,

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    Phegan ,

    Then let them die.

    spiderman ,
    @spiderman@ani.social avatar

    and? what do you recommend?

    Phegan ,

    Supporting artists directly via bandcamp and other options.

    If you can't support artists directly, and would have to buy physical media which supports the record label and not the artist...pirate.

    spiderman ,
    @spiderman@ani.social avatar

    Bandcamp is great but in the POV of a third worlder, bandcamp is never going to reach our audience. People barely make ends or spend much on other subs so paying separate artists not something people here would prefer. Maybe ideal for supporting one or two artists you love.

    Sadly, physical media is dead here. Vinyl is still alive in some places but not here.

    I don't support spotify but right now its the best here if you pay premium ofc. if there's a better alternative that's not geolocked, has good recommendation algo and pays artists better than spotify, i will be always happy to switch.

    FarceOfWill ,

    You see, the music labels know that stealing from Spotify is morally correct.

    lepinkainen ,

    IIRC labels own bits of Spotify, so they get their money that way. They don’t care if their music on the app actually makes a profit.

    Zip2 ,

    I upgraded to a decent set of headphones with a dedicated DAC, then realised just how terrible Spotify’s sound quality is, even on maximum. I hung on a while for the empty promise of lossless audio then ditched them.

    I’m now increasingly glad that I’m giving money to their competitors.

    Amir ,
    @Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

    Spotify's encoding (vorbis 320kbps) should be transparent at the maximum bitrate. However, it's possible that the files uploaded on there are mastered differently, for average consumer consumption instead of the full dynamics of most source material. I know SoundCloud enforces "loudness" mastering with presets when uploading for example.

    The real reason Spotify's quality is inferior to others is that, if you have the music files, you can apply in-app parametric equalization on every platform and compensate for imperfections of your output device.

    Zip2 ,

    My problem was by the time it had been through normalisation for equipment and hearing correction, it sounded very artifacty. Maybe a lack of bits and low sampling rate.

    Muffi ,

    Switched to Tidal when Spotify announced their reduction in artist pay, and I can highly recommend it. The interface is much better, although lacking podcasts (but luckily there are many great FOSS podcasts apps out there).

    pyre ,

    what do you mean 'although', that's an added benefit!

    Muffi ,

    I liked having both in the same app until I discovered AntennaPod, which is far superior to Spotify's podcast manager.

    pyre ,

    I was mostly joking but I'm just so over podcasts. Even when people who I like and follow on YouTube talk about their podcasts my eyes glaze over.

    I have so little time and patience for low effort hours long drivel that i find what I'm doing now more worthwhile than listening to a podcast. Not saying all podcasts are like this obviously but that's my default assumption.

    balder1991 ,

    It’s just like everything else in the world, 90% of things are shitty, but the good 10% of things are always worth finding.

    WildPalmTree ,

    Multitask. Listen to a podcast AND do what you are doing now. Can't be many people that sit down, focus and say "I'll now listen to a podcast and do nothing else".

    pyre ,

    that's only more proof that it's worthless.

    daddy32 ,

    "lacking podcasts" is a plus for most people, I think.
    But Tidal's interface is a bit worse for me in one thing: it lacks the "remote control" Spotify has: controlling playback from any device on any device (e.g. playing on the computer and using the phone as a remote) and also the ability to transfer the playback from one device to another - like pausing it on the computer, picking up the phone, connecting it to car and resuming playback.

    Muffi ,

    I use KDE connect for remote controlling, so I never even noticed. But I can see that being an annoying loss.

    rottingleaf ,

    Another thing I don't use, and its users with problems I don't have.

    There are times when it's good to be asocial.

    moon ,

    The average person: Spotify sucks and is making me hate them even more

    Shareholders seeing layoffs followed by AI replacements for those workers and then repeated price hikes: 🤑

    jorp ,

    The myth of capitalism is that it improves things for the consumer. It's very obvious that it only improves, at best, the next quarter's returns for the investor. Once that husk of a company stops "line going up," the money goes elsewhere and we repeat.

    If the line can't go up through creation it'll go up through destruction.

    aStonedSanta ,

    It worked differently before speech was considered money. Or I like to tell myself that.

    Croquette ,

    It worked differently before because the information network was orders of magnitude slower and data was expensive as Pope shit.

    Nowadays, the information is almost instant and everything is interconnected and data storage is cheap so we got big data with people paid solely to boil that down to algorithms that squeeze money as much as possible from customers.

    Just look at all the streaming services that makes you pay more if you don't want ads and they resell your data. Triple dipping baby

    aStonedSanta ,

    This is for sure a big part of it also. Greed greed and greed being the main draw lol

    jorp ,

    Everyone that works for a company is poorer, every company is scraping by and making cuts, but executives are making more and more money

    intensely_human ,

    The myth of capitalism is that it improves things for the consumer

    So you don’t think your life is better than someone from the 16th century?

    jorp ,

    I'm so tired of this nonsense argument, is capitalism your God to which you give credit for every human accomplishment? How did capitalism help to raise the Russian serfs to the status of a world superpower? It didn't... How did capitalism help Russia get to space before the United States? How did capitalism help human life improve before the 16th century?

    I wonder what you even think capitalism is. I wonder if you comprehend that technological advancement, markets, money, and trade aren't synonymous with it.

    You love democracy but when it comes to matters of economic decisions you are bootlicking the petite dictators that control every aspect of your economic life. You are employed by people whose means of acquiring wealth is to skim off the top of what you're producing and steal it from you but you are too busy making eye contact while you suck them off that you don't see their hand in your pocket.

    The world is burning and there's plastic in your balls because of capitalism, you are such a good submissive little peasant.

    solsangraal ,

    told them to go fuck themselves and canceled my subscription yesterday. they really didn't stop to consider just how many options people have for music

    The_Tired_Horizon ,
    @The_Tired_Horizon@lemmy.world avatar

    I was telling people to try music on spotify and youtube, and then buy it on bandcamp etc. Download a copy. There sometimes comes a time when labels crumble, or streaming sites go bankrupt.

    NutWrench ,
    @NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

    Another clueless CEO who doesn't know what makes his company's very existence possible.

    can ,

    So now that Tidal has moved its Hi-Fi tier price down to match Apple's wtf is Spotify doing? Charging more than the competition, paying artists less, and not even offering lossless?

    dmtalon ,

    And as long as people keep subscribing to them, they'll March right along collecting that sweet money.

    Infynis ,
    @Infynis@midwest.social avatar

    Spotify is less vulnerable to customer churn compared to TV/movie streaming services, as users are less likely to switch music streaming providers due to the hassle of rebuilding playlists and losing personalized recommendations.

    can ,

    There are services for transferring playlists

    cyberpunk007 ,

    yes but often there are some mixups... which is a PITA for those of us with ~10K+ songs

    can ,

    I'm an album man so while I have beyond that many tracks it's more seemless for me.

    a4ng3l ,

    Would you happen to have one to recommend to switch from Spotify to apple music? I’m thinking about moving but my playlists are keeping me from leaving.

    can , (edited )

    There's probably I few. I used Soundiiz before, just get a free trial and convert them. I also just found Playlisty.

    Kraven_the_Hunter ,

    I used TuneMyMusic when I switched to Amazon Music a few months ago. It worked really well. It costs $4 or $5 to subscribe for a month but it's a huge time saver.

    SneakyLemming ,

    I moved all my music using the SongShift app on iOS which was super convenient. At least when I bought it, it was a 1 time cost of like $5, not sure about now. But it matches songs and lets you see which ones don’t line up and then copies the playlist over exactly the same.

    CosmicTurtle0 ,

    I predict in a few months, they will put their API behind a paid tier.

    GissaMittJobb ,

    Data takeouts are non-optional under the GDPR, so I would be very surprised if that happens.

    bolexforsoup ,

    Spotify has over 200mill paying subscribers and over 600mill total I believe. They an afford the peel off unfortunately.

    From what I can tell Tidal won’t even publish their subscribers so it must be pretty small.

    can , (edited )

    Nvm I think my app bugged out

    ThirdWorldOrder ,
    @ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee avatar

    And they don’t offer music videos like Apple does

    ForgottenFlux OP ,

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    bolexforsoup ,

    IIRC this means the family plan costs more than 3 individual plans did like 3 years ago. If not more than it saves you like $.50 in comparison. I would try and look it up but Google search has also turned to shit so I don’t feel like dealing with it.

    The Internet just isn’t fun anymore.

    ogeist ,

    Indie internet is better, hi Lemmy

    bolexforsoup ,

    They’re still scraping us unfortunately

    Kevnyon ,
    @Kevnyon@lemmy.world avatar

    For anyone out there, I recommend giving Tidal a shot and for podcasts, I recommend a FOSS app called AntennaPod. This is the combo I use myself, I've been using Tidal for a bit over two years now and just recently switched to AntennaPod.

    AlexWIWA ,

    Meanwhile every update makes the app worse

    spare_muppets ,

    Just for funzies, my Spotify family plan in Canada is $17.84 CAD, which works out to $13.05 USD at current exchange rate.

    Usually Canadians are screwed harder on, well pretty much everything, so I'm surprised that Americans are paying more for this. Guess it's "what the market will bear" or similar nonsense. Please discuss.

    ILikeBoobies ,

    Just FYI, Napster’s family plan is only $14.99 CAD

    mypasswordis1234 ,
    @mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world avatar

    Spotify Premium in practice has new benefits!

    More specifically: Lyrics that they took away from regular users some time ago.

    Kolanaki ,
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    They fucked it up for premium users too, though, since they've done that. Half the songs that I knew to have lyrics either no longer have them, or they constantly "fail to load."

    can ,

    Seriously, damn, that's feels like such a basic thing

    Gestrid ,

    I remember I used to have an add-on (at least I think it was an add-on; didn't Spotify officially support those at some point?) that synced the lyrics of a song to the timestamp. It used user submissions to figure out the timestamps and edit the lyrics. It was pretty cool.

    slaacaa ,

    I cancelled spotify a few months ago, when getting some free Apple music with my Airpods. Not the best, but still happy that I don’t have to use Spotify anymore, will probably shop around after my free period with Apple is done

    boonhet ,

    I was satisfied with Apple Music myself (until I no longer had need for it), but I keep hearing that Tidal is one of the better services if Apple doesn't quite cut it for you. Supposedly they have a reasonably fair cut for the artists compared to Spotify, and also good audio quality (to be fair, Apple has high quality available too, if you enabled it in the settings)

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