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thantik ,

And nothing of value was lost.

muelltonne ,

There are still local governments or police forces announcing important things via Twitter. There are still interesting and smart people posting there. There are all those "legacy" accounts which are not active anymore, but have valuable content. Nitter was the last way to read this and this is now lost.

harry_balzac ,

If they were truly smart they wouldn't be on a site run by a narcissistic right wing billionaire with breeding fantasies that's turned it into a fascist echo chamber rife with CSAM, antisemitism, and disinformation.

Jtotheb , (edited )

If Stephen King wants to share his accumulated wisdom for free with millions of readers, hopeful artists, random people on the street who’ve never heard of him, what is the best way to reach them? Start a blog that will never show up in any search results behind the pages of machine-generated SEO junk about how they have answers for “Stephen King blog”, right? Because then he had zero impact but retains the moral high ground.

kilgore_trout ,
@kilgore_trout@feddit.it avatar

People talk where people are.

HarkMahlberg ,
@HarkMahlberg@kbin.social avatar

I wish network effects weren't a self fulfilling prophecy.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Okay, but they are on that site, which is why Nitter has been so useful.

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

It's not so simple. A lot of people aren't there because they like Elon Musk, they're there because people they like having discussions with are there. And those people are there for the same reason.

It's sort of like a phone company that doesn't allow customers that are on other phone companies. You have to be on the same phone company as your fiends or you can't call them. You can't change to another phone company because you won't be able to call your friends anymore. You'd be stuck because the phone company owns your ability to connect to other people. They own your contacts list.

Fortunately there's regulations to prevent phone companies from doing this, they are required to interconnect. This means you can change to another phone company, and many places you can keep your phone number, so you can do this without your friends even knowing.

There are no such regulations for social media. So Elon Musk bought people's contact lists on Twitter. People can't change platforms because Elon Musk owns people's ability to connect with other people. And because contacts aren't closed groups (people don't have all the same contacts as each other) it's basically impossible to organize an effort where everyone moves to another platform. That would involve organizing nearly everyone on the platform to do it at the same time. It's not really all that feasible to organize hundreds of millions of people that don't really agree with each other on anything to abandon a platform all at once.

But there's been a steady decline in users since Musk took over. Eventually maybe another platform will reach critical mass and there could be a massive number of people go to that platform. Happened with Myspace, Digg, etc. But really social media platfroms should be required by law to interoperate so if a company is well run there's less of a barrier to entry for another company to step in and take over. But that would be something like free market capitalism, and the heads of corporations don't actually want that despite what they say.

brbposting ,

True intelligence demands specific moral cost-benefit calculations?

long_chicken_boat ,

I totally agree on the usefulness of Nitter, but hell, imagine following your police force on social media. Like they don't have enough with oppressing you, they also want to feed you their bullshit.

duplexsystem ,

There is yet hope https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/983#issuecomment-1913513693

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

What the shit is/was Nitter? Sorry I can't seem to keep up.

wewbull ,

A way of reading twitter posts without needing to go to twitter. Particularly useful since you now need an account to see twitter posts.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Thanks, I guess I never tried reading a twit post to learn of the issue.

JohnDClay ,

It was also helpful for getting links to Twitter pics and vids to embed here.

Aaron ,

It's a private front-end service. So you can see Twitter posts without logging in or giving them your data. They obviously don't like that.

hal_5700X ,
@hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

https://nitter.d420.de is the old instance uptime & health checks site. https://status.d420.de/ is the new one.

Corgana ,
@Corgana@startrek.website avatar

Some instances seem to still be working fine. Can someone ELI25?

morrowind OP ,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

The method they are using will still work until expiry (up to 30 days)

Corgana ,
@Corgana@startrek.website avatar

Ah I see, thanks (also boo)

crackajack ,

Ever since Twitter became X, I don't think the instance has ever worked for me.

JustUseMint ,

Do FOSS apps like Squawker rely on the same api I wonder

chrishazfun ,
@chrishazfun@lemmy.world avatar

It's been acting up the last two weeks so it seems like it does, tried the upstream version and even thats acting up, I think this is it.

JustUseMint ,

I figured, it certainly didn't work on magic. That's a shame, a lot of shit it reported on Twitter and I refuse to use an account.

NicoCharrua ,
@NicoCharrua@lemmy.ca avatar

It's acting up, so the feed doesn't work, but if you go to the profile of someone you already subscribed to you can kinda see their posts? It's weird

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

aight

sag ,
@sag@lemm.ee avatar

Now, I have to make a Xhitter account to see some comics. Some one donate me some copium.

Aaron ,

I tried to create one recently but there is now a fucking gauntlet of captchas and puzzles you have to solve to create an account.

Same goes for Google now.

drmoose ,

it still could be made working with using real logins for scraping which can be a bit illegal but if you do it on your personal instance it would be more than enough. I'm not sure, maybe nitter already supports this instead of guest tokens?

xthexder ,
@xthexder@l.sw0.com avatar

There's nothing illegal about breaking Twitter terms of service. You might get banned, but that's it.

drmoose ,

That would be in it in ideal world but Twitter can sue you for damages as you explicitly agree with ToS in most countries especially US. There's enough precedence when it comes to "login" scraping in the US that you'd most likely lose (though probably not a massive payout)

Twitter is unlikely to bother with small non-commercial scrapers but I wouldn't risk attaching any tracable info even for small personal projects.

morrowind OP ,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes I believe it could, though we'll see if the devs are willing to keep supporting it

Speculater , (edited )
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

Oh no

Edit: Jesus people, /s
Y'all are dense sometimes.

antonim ,

That's not how sarcasm works.

Speculater ,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

It's literally the first half of a meme, "Oh no, so anyway."

Aaron ,

I think the part you're missing is that Nitter is actually a valuable service to some of us.

sir_reginald ,
@sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar

everyone got your "sarcasm". you're the one being dense here. Nitter was a useful tool for those who have left twitter but needed to access information posted there. It didn't benefit Twitter in anyway, so there was 0 downsides in using it.

the fact that you make fun of a useful community tool shutting down is why you're deservedly being downvoted to hell

BonesOfTheMoon ,

I didn't use Twitter for a decade but occasionally still read my feed until fuckface took over, and then deleted it. But the other day I wondered if someone I knew of who was palliative is still alive so I googled his Twitter, and for some reason they had mercy and let me see he is indeed still living, albeit really incapacitated. So thanks for not being shitty for one second Twitter, and now I hope you die off as a platform and are replaced by the fediverse.

ProtecyaTec ,

What a poor name for a social media platform.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

I am certain much of the Nitter use is to access 18+ stuff, and if the artists want to keep their incomes protected, they'll go to Fanbox or Fansly when their users can't use Nitter for easy wankbait.

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