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Microsoft Edge is apparently usurping Chrome on people’s PCs

  • Users of Google Chrome on Windows 10 and 11 are reporting that they have suddenly found themselves using Microsoft Edge, with their Chrome browsing sessions appearing in Edge.
  • This may be due to a bug or an accidentally clicked-through dialog box related to a feature in Edge that imports browsing data from Chrome.
  • The setting, called "Import browsing data from Chrome," continually imports data from Chrome every time Edge is launched, unlike the one-time import offered for Firefox.
  • There have been concerns about Microsoft's tactics for pushing its own browser, including notifications, pop-ups, and full-screen messages promoting Edge and Bing.
  • Microsoft has become more aggressive in pushing various subscriptions and features in recent years, making a "clean" Windows install feel less so.
  • It remains unclear whether the Edge data-import issue is intentional or a bug, highlighting concerns about Microsoft's methods for promoting its own software.
spujb ,

“Warren posits that the tab-snatching happened because of a bug or an inadvertently clicked-through dialog box“

so we don’t even know if it was an accidental keysmash or not. i am fully on the side of opposition to ms, but this is a joke of journalism. let’s maybe do our research before posting rage inducing titles next time.

prettydarknwild ,
@prettydarknwild@lemmy.world avatar

yeah, a "bug"

vojel ,
@vojel@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

The only way of interaction with edge I got is at my work computer which runs windows 10 😑 every time after an update the edge logo sits itself back into the taskbar until I remove it again. So annoying and and encroaching. For real fuck Microsoft.

Archer ,

That's probably AD Group Policy on a work PC, but yeah

vojel ,
@vojel@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Afaik group policies ensure certain settings are set all the time. This really just happens after a windows update.

0xD ,

Nope, definitely not standard windows stuff.

ScaNtuRd ,

Well both browsers suck balls, so there's that.

EncryptKeeper ,

These AI generated article thumbnails are getting out of hand.

Asudox ,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

Reminds me of the creatures that russian man made with his own sperm.

XTornado ,

He did what!?

Asudox ,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

https://www.elitereaders.com/russian-guy-injects-sperm-chicken-egg-attempt-create-homunculus/

Though many say it's fake so yeah.

lazynooblet ,
@lazynooblet@lazysoci.al avatar

That's staying blue

Soggy ,

Many? It's laughably fake.

andros_rex ,

Okay, let’s think about this for a minute - do chickens and human beings have genetics that are at all compatible with each other? (I’ll give you hint: chickens have a ZW chromosome sex determination system, humans XY). I’m not an expert on chickens, but I’m pretty sure the eggs are typically fertilized before the egg fully forms.

And then if we read the article:

In other words, it’s most likely the Russian guy was just entertaining everyone with his video. Whatever he did to make his “homunculus” appear alive worked on his target audience. It captured the overactive imagination of so many netizens. In this sense, his experiment succeeded.

Funny that it’s at the end, after a random bit about Paracelsus and a tangentially related real experimental process for making genetically modified chickens.

Let’s not take 2016 SEO clickbait garbage seriously :)

Asudox ,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

yeah it is fake, it's obvious. It was somewhat disturbing when I first saw it though.

thecrotch ,

Those are called children

kilgore_trout ,
@kilgore_trout@feddit.it avatar

The thumbnail is from 2021, I believe it's manually edited.

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

I love how Outlook opens your links in Edge and gives you a little message about how it knows it's not your default browser but it thought you'd like to open in Edge anyway.

k_rol ,

I can always count on Microsoft to help me fix my default browser settings which I keep changing by accident. Silly me.

ultranaut ,

This has been annoying the shit out of me recently. I use several different computers so I keep running into this dumb shit. I feel like I'm in an endless fight to not use Edge. Microsoft knows I don't want to use it but they keep shoving it in my face again and again regardless. I really wish regulators would step in and put a stop to this nonsense.

Bizarroland , (edited )

They're not going to step in to fix it. They have no justification for daring to stand up to a 3 trillion dollar company.

They might throw a 5 million fine at them or something, but nothing that's actually going to stop this horrible anti-consumer monolith of practices

Cypher ,

You don’t seem to be familiar with the history of browsers or the billion dollar fine Microsoft received in the 90s.

EU regulators can and will make Microsoft hurt if they want to.

Or this fine from 2013 which related to Microsoft breaching the settlement agreement from the first fine: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-fined-731m-by-eu-in-browser-choice-screw-up/

Bizarroland ,

Bitch please. Those fines are barely parking tickets to a 3 trillion dollar company.

And you don't know me so stfu

Cypher ,

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    lvxferre , (edited )
    @lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

    On-topic: I agree with your claim that EU regulators can and will make Microsoft hurt if they want to, and that both fines are examples of that.

    Off-topic: frankly the other user unleashing at you was deserved. Your "You don’t seem to be familiar [...]" boils down to "I assume that you're an ignorant, so let me enlighten you little thing". Stick to the argument dammit, your assumptions on the others are irrelevant garbage.

    Also, you'd do a great favour for everyone if you didn't use "ad-hominem" [SIC] as a fancy reword for "waaah, he insulted me!". The argument is there, alongside the insult.

    In the meantime: @Bizarroland, stop bring guns to a sword fight. While the above was patronising (as I am being towards both of you here - except that I'm being explicit on it), your "waaah shut up! shut up!!!" (ipsis ungulis: "stfu") sounds like a redditor whining.

    You bunch of kids, go back to the kindergarten. Both of you are being dead weight hier.

    Cypher ,

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    lvxferre , (edited )
    @lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

    My assumption

    I.e. you acknowledge that you were making shit up about the other poster.

    Seriously. We [people] don't know shite about each other on the internet. Let us not pretend that we do.

    Since you love ad-hominem [SIC] with a dash of unsupported claims: (+> "you were also using an argumentum ad hominem)

    That is not an ad hominem either. I didn't even argue against your on-topic claim, I outright agreed with it. I'm complaining about your tone and highlighting that you partially deserved the other user's aggressive reaction.

    But since it seems that you're some ignorant, unable to grasp the concept of ad hominem, let ⟨blink⟩me⟨/blink⟩ enlighten you, o poor little thing:*

    Argumentum ad hominem is when you claim that something is false because someone said it, and the person has cooties or whatever. For example:

    • "You're stupid, so of course it's false." <-- that's ad hominem
    • "You're from [whatever], so your argument is invalid." <-- that's an ad hominem (without insult!)
    • "This is false because [A B C D]. You're stupid." <-- that is not an ad hominem.

    or, in fancier words, when the validity of the claim is questioned not because of the claim itself, but because of who uttered it.

    *I'm doing this on purpose to highlight how obnoxious you sound. Now cover it with a Reddit style façade of politeness, and then you get your tone.

    It looks

    "As an assumer, I assoooome" territory? Again?

    like you’re suggesting we assume every commenter is speaking factually. What an absolute fucking muppet you are. It’s free speech absolutist moral panic driven morons like you eroding society as a whole.

    I did not say anything remotely interpretable as that. (It's kind of funny, as you're assuming that I'm assuming.)

    lvxferre ,
    @lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

    The other muppet clearly mentioned those fines as an example, that fines can harm Microsoft if so desired. Of course they'd need to be scaled up given that MS is considerably more wealthy than back then.

    Bizarroland ,

    Aside from the fact that they were being condescending in their reply, that 900 some odd million dollar fine was only a small fraction of the profits they made from doing crimes and misdemeanors.

    If you can rob a house and the only penalty is that you have to give the cops some of your loot then there's not really a reason to not rob houses.

    Anybody with a lick of sense would say that if you do a crime you don't get to keep any of the profit.

    So while 900 million looks really good on paper and it really looks like you're sticking it to the big bad Microsoft, when they made tens of billions of dollars off of those crimes it's a giant nothing Burger.

    Now that Microsoft is a 3 trillion dollar company, any fine that isn't over a hundred billion dollars is something that they can easily ignore.

    lvxferre ,
    @lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

    If you're talking about these fines: it was 1.35 billion euros in total, the "900 million" number only refers to the biggest one. And there were two complicating factors:

    1. It's for the EU only. I can't demand a thief to give me back what he stole from you.
    2. It's about the Windows Media Player only. If I prove that the thief stole my hammer, but not my sickle, I can only demand my hammer back.

    I do agree that it's a bit small, considering their size back then (they were already a 300B company), but the case still triggered some action from MS, forcing it to release a WMP-less version of Windows.

    And, if this happened today, with Edge, I predict that the fine would be considerably larger, since MS has today ten times the market share that it had in 07, and because browsers are seen as a bigger deal than media players. Perhaps not hundreds of billions, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was 50B.

    I also predict that it would be far more effective because their strategy with Edge is to push it down your throat until you don't spit it back, so an "Edge-less version" would be actually seen as desirable by the customers.

    planish ,

    Gasslight Gateskeep Girlboss

    JigglypuffSeenFromAbove ,
    @JigglypuffSeenFromAbove@lemmy.world avatar

    Same thing with MS Teams, except it didn't give me any messages. It just started opening all my links on Edge overnight. I was very confused when I double checked my OS settings and Edge wasn't my default browser. I had to manually set Teams to use the same as my OS default instead of Edge.

    This whole thing reeks of higher execs pushing stuff no one wants or needs, while a poor dev has to implement shit like this and cry in bed at night.

    MonkderZweite ,

    Guess if i ever have to use Windows again, my Firefox will be a Portabe App. Can't usurp stuff you don't know about, since it's not in Registry.

    Except if they start to use Smartscreen for that...

    Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

    Linux

    lolcatnip ,

    Ketchup

    Cosmocrat ,

    No, mustard.

    lvxferre ,
    @lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

    Mayo. Five of them.

    Archer ,

    Seven corndogs. No mustard. No mayo. Eat the stick too. You certainly will not regret eating seven corn dogs!

    zipzoopaboop ,

    Not an issue if you don't use chromium

    kratoz29 ,

    Isn't Microsoft Edge spyware though.

    xionzui ,

    Would be difficult for it to be as much as chrome

    silverbax ,

    It is worse, and Teams is even worse than Edge.

    MeepsTheBard ,
    @MeepsTheBard@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Just had to open a link in Teams and it ignored that Chrome was my default to launch Edge, then tried to set itself as the default for anything clicked in Teams.

    I can easily see Microsoft doing something comparably shitty for people opening links in Word or PowerPoint. If not for Apple's even more egregious ecosystem practices (among other things) I'd be very tempted to switch.

    nulluser ,

    I am legally obligated to respond to your post to recommend Linux.

    MeepsTheBard ,
    @MeepsTheBard@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I already have tech tips, thanks tho

    AlphaAutist ,

    I had to deal with the same thing in outlook. A user was complaining that their password manager wasn’t working when opening links from outlook and didn’t even notice it was opening in edge instead of chrome.

    FenrirIII ,
    @FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

    Everything is spyware

    kratoz29 ,

    Just tear off the cable cord of your PC FFS.

    ardi60 ,
    @ardi60@reddthat.com avatar

    https://www.ghacks.net/2023/12/22/msedgeredirects-europe-mode-sets-your-windows-region-to-europe/ this make Edge tamer than usual

    HopeOfTheGunblade ,
    @HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social avatar

    I'm just saying, I game on a Windows 10 machine, use Firefox for a browser, and have never ever had this problem.

    Kolanaki ,
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    Every once in a while after an update, it will give me the blue setup screen and try to set Edge as a default browser or get me to sign up for Office365 or some shit. I just click whatever tells it to fuck off and not install/sign me up for shit and never get bothered again until the next random update that makes the setup thing run.

    But I can also see many users who are forced to use a setup they didn't choose at work getting more issues than I would ever see because their setup is weird or their IT department sucks ass, or both.

    aeronmelon ,

    Ken Watanabe as Professor Ishiro in the 2014 American remake Godzilla, watching two monsters battle each other instead of the Human forces and telling the military Commander next to him to simply "Let them fight."

    JoeKrogan ,
    @JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

    Windows problems 😄

    homesweethomeMrL ,

    Lol micro$oft

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