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Microsoft Edge is apparently usurping Chrome on people’s PCs

  • Users of Google Chrome on Windows 10 and 11 are reporting that they have suddenly found themselves using Microsoft Edge, with their Chrome browsing sessions appearing in Edge.
  • This may be due to a bug or an accidentally clicked-through dialog box related to a feature in Edge that imports browsing data from Chrome.
  • The setting, called "Import browsing data from Chrome," continually imports data from Chrome every time Edge is launched, unlike the one-time import offered for Firefox.
  • There have been concerns about Microsoft's tactics for pushing its own browser, including notifications, pop-ups, and full-screen messages promoting Edge and Bing.
  • Microsoft has become more aggressive in pushing various subscriptions and features in recent years, making a "clean" Windows install feel less so.
  • It remains unclear whether the Edge data-import issue is intentional or a bug, highlighting concerns about Microsoft's methods for promoting its own software.
zipzoopaboop ,

Not an issue if you don't use chromium

EncryptKeeper ,

These AI generated article thumbnails are getting out of hand.

Asudox ,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

Reminds me of the creatures that russian man made with his own sperm.

XTornado ,

He did what!?

Asudox ,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

https://www.elitereaders.com/russian-guy-injects-sperm-chicken-egg-attempt-create-homunculus/

Though many say it's fake so yeah.

lazynooblet ,
@lazynooblet@lazysoci.al avatar

That's staying blue

Soggy ,

Many? It's laughably fake.

andros_rex ,

Okay, let’s think about this for a minute - do chickens and human beings have genetics that are at all compatible with each other? (I’ll give you hint: chickens have a ZW chromosome sex determination system, humans XY). I’m not an expert on chickens, but I’m pretty sure the eggs are typically fertilized before the egg fully forms.

And then if we read the article:

In other words, it’s most likely the Russian guy was just entertaining everyone with his video. Whatever he did to make his “homunculus” appear alive worked on his target audience. It captured the overactive imagination of so many netizens. In this sense, his experiment succeeded.

Funny that it’s at the end, after a random bit about Paracelsus and a tangentially related real experimental process for making genetically modified chickens.

Let’s not take 2016 SEO clickbait garbage seriously :)

Asudox ,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

yeah it is fake, it's obvious. It was somewhat disturbing when I first saw it though.

thecrotch ,

Those are called children

kilgore_trout ,
@kilgore_trout@feddit.it avatar

The thumbnail is from 2021, I believe it's manually edited.

ardi60 ,
@ardi60@reddthat.com avatar

https://www.ghacks.net/2023/12/22/msedgeredirects-europe-mode-sets-your-windows-region-to-europe/ this make Edge tamer than usual

ThePrivacyPolicy ,

Definitely had this happen. Edge imported all my plugins and tabs and started auto launching when I logged into windows. The auto launching made it obvious they were trying to confuse you into just picking up where you left off without hopefully noticing you weren't actually in chrome anymore. Had been meaning to move to Firefox anyway, this just give me the kick I needed to do it asap.

sir_reginald ,
@sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar

Microsoft can pull the same trickery with Firefox users. It's their OS, after all.

kiagam ,

chrome and edge use chromium, so everything is 1:1 compatible. you can't do the same with firefox: extensions work differently, several options will be different, any custom layouts will be missing so things look different, etc

sir_reginald ,
@sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar

they can just import bookmarks and open your last session's tabs.

most extensions will be available too. they could check which ones you have in Firefox and install the ones available for Edge.

there would be some things missing, sure, but most people wouldn't notice the difference immediately.

Natanael ,

Then somebody should make an extension compatible with Firefox and Edge whose sole purpose is to close the browser if it's running in Edge

dukk ,

If someone had made the active choice to use Firefox, I think they’d notice if it was replaced by Edge…

Mango ,

Seriously, this is a massive MASSIVE security violation. Trying to trick me into putting my passwords into your client instead of where I usually do? Lawsuit. Lawsuit now.

ThePrivacyPolicy ,

I didn't even think of that point! That could have teeth in a lawsuit if someone had the time and funding. I'm sure there's a lot of security and privacy related things with this bait and switch tactic that wouldn't fly with courts.

aeronmelon ,

Ken Watanabe as Professor Ishiro in the 2014 American remake Godzilla, watching two monsters battle each other instead of the Human forces and telling the military Commander next to him to simply "Let them fight."

phoenixz ,

Install Linux and be done with this nonsense

funkless_eck ,

I did. Now my internet doesn't work. Problem solved 👍

DoucheBagMcSwag ,

...don't forget needing to troubleshoot for 2 hours with forums and YouTube videos on how to launch any game that's not steam / proton based.

Mango ,

Fuck those games. They have a license agreement with Microsoft and want you to be using their spyware.

DoucheBagMcSwag , (edited )

So I shouldn't be able to play any of my GOG games and write them off? Fuck outta here

As a steam deck user, (who is very familiar with Lutris) I am aware that Linux is not yet 100% foolproof for non proton games and downvoting users because you don't like it just entrenches the stereotyped idea that Linux users are prude.

Mango ,

I'm not saying you should have to. You just gotta put up with the spyware that is Windows if you do. I'm saying that the companies who go out of their way to not work on Linux are bad companies.

DoucheBagMcSwag ,

Oh yeah for sure we all know the ones that purposely make changes to break steam deck like Ubisoft

voodooattack ,

Use Heroic for GOG/EGS. It also runs steam games if you want a unified experience.

Edit: https://heroicgameslauncher.com/

Holzkohlen ,

I kinda like sometimes having to mess about. Beats having another browser annexing all of your data without consent or ads in your start menu. And the most important thing IMHO: it's only ever going to get worse with windows, while Linux steadily improves.

trailblazer911 ,

Installed Linux Mint. My Bluetooth works. WiFi, Optical Audio Out, My Corsair Fan controller and many other things don't work. I can't find certain render options in Blender also. How to fix all these? Have been trying driver and software updates for hours now.
I think I would have been better off using Windows with Chris Titus' debloat tools. Everything worked, and Edge, OneDrive, Cortana etc. could be uninstalled in one go too.

aStonedSanta ,

You would be way better off. All these just use Linux people are trolls. Every time I’ve installed Linux it has been a massive learning experience for my unique hardware.

BreakDecks ,

I am not going to pretend that your poor experiences with Linux aren't a valid reason not to use it, but if learning how to be in control of your computer is too much work to be worth the reward, complain less that the corporate black box you're using isn't designed with user freedom as a priority.

Digital freedom is going to require some amount of digital literacy.

aStonedSanta ,

I didn’t complain lmao.

aStonedSanta ,

I also run a Linux server lol. Don’t project your anger at windows on me

SendMePhotos ,

It's the telemetry for me. I don't like being researched. I do main windows but secondary Linux fedora KDE. I would say that Linux is good but the compatability and learning curve takes more time than what most are willing to, or are able to dedicate.

voidMainVoid ,

I love Linux, but I don't think that Linux users should promote it like it's a free Windows, because it isn't. You should learn Linux because you want to learn Linux, not because you hate Windows.

Frankly, I didn't go 100% Linux right away. I dual-booted for several years first.

NaoPb ,

I think they may be forgetting how much of an effort they themselves have put into finding alternative applications, changing their workflow and learning how to use and modify linux to their likings.

octopus_ink ,

I get your point, but hating Windows is a great reason to want to learn Linux. People rarely move on from something they are 100% happy with. Folks need to not expect it to be Windows with different branding though.

20 years old but still worth a read. http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm

skulkingaround ,

There's no standalone fan controller in existence I'm aware of with Linux support unfortunately, blame manufacturers for that. I use an aquacomputer quadro and just fire up a windows VM with USB passthrough to change settings the once or twice a year I need to. What else isn't working?

Regarding blender, what render options are missing? If it's GPU rendering that's missing, are you using Nvidia or AMD? I'm not familiar with how mint does things but you might need cuda or HIP packages for Nvidia or AMD respectively.

redcalcium ,

WiFi: is it broadcom? What's the output of lspci?

Blender render option missing: how did you install blender? from package manager? it could be built using different build options and thus behaves differently from the official build. Try downloading the official linux build from https://www.blender.org/download/

caustictrap ,

Wow why linux is so broken with multiple package mangers. Is it supposed to be easier than windows? On windows i just type "choco install blender" on terminal and everything just works.

redcalcium ,

Nah, it's usually due to licensing issues. Different distros have different policies regarding what the license of the softwares included in their repository. Some requires strict OSS license, others are more lax. When a software can be compiled with non-OSS components to include some features, most package maintainer would choose to not include those components in the package.

caustictrap ,

So basically linix is a fragmented mess. I will just stick to windows all my games , apps work and i can also uninstall all the microsoft bloat with a single click.

redcalcium ,

Eh, if that's your conclusion of Linux ecosystem then maybe you'll better off using windows afterall. To each their own.

What you see as fragmented mess, others see it as empowered communities able to make their own distros that fit their own needs instead of one size fit all solution.

caustictrap ,

No wonder the lack of software support.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

The whole OS is bloat.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Is it supposed to be easier than windows?

No, but ease of use is not the only consideration.

You can do more with it, and it's endlessly configurable. The terminal is superior. There's virtually no bloat and it runs very fast. Most of the software is free open-source. (And if something isn't, it's virtually guaranteed that somebody has made a free open-source equivalent.)

But easier to use? I guess that all depends upon what you're trying to do.

caustictrap ,

Open source software also works on windows. I use package managers on windows with terminal. I uninstall all the bloat with terminal on windows. Everything just works and is supported better on windows.

Fisch ,
@Fisch@lemmy.ml avatar

What do you mean by certain render options in Blender? Like HIP, CUDA, etc?

JoeKrogan ,
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

Windows problems 😄

vojel ,
@vojel@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

The only way of interaction with edge I got is at my work computer which runs windows 10 😑 every time after an update the edge logo sits itself back into the taskbar until I remove it again. So annoying and and encroaching. For real fuck Microsoft.

Archer ,

That's probably AD Group Policy on a work PC, but yeah

vojel ,
@vojel@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Afaik group policies ensure certain settings are set all the time. This really just happens after a windows update.

0xD ,

Nope, definitely not standard windows stuff.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

Linux

lolcatnip ,

Ketchup

Cosmocrat ,

No, mustard.

lvxferre ,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

Mayo. Five of them.

Archer ,

Seven corndogs. No mustard. No mayo. Eat the stick too. You certainly will not regret eating seven corn dogs!

homesweethomeMrL ,

Lol micro$oft

kratoz29 ,

Isn't Microsoft Edge spyware though.

xionzui ,

Would be difficult for it to be as much as chrome

silverbax ,

It is worse, and Teams is even worse than Edge.

MeepsTheBard ,
@MeepsTheBard@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Just had to open a link in Teams and it ignored that Chrome was my default to launch Edge, then tried to set itself as the default for anything clicked in Teams.

I can easily see Microsoft doing something comparably shitty for people opening links in Word or PowerPoint. If not for Apple's even more egregious ecosystem practices (among other things) I'd be very tempted to switch.

nulluser ,

I am legally obligated to respond to your post to recommend Linux.

MeepsTheBard ,
@MeepsTheBard@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I already have tech tips, thanks tho

AlphaAutist ,

I had to deal with the same thing in outlook. A user was complaining that their password manager wasn’t working when opening links from outlook and didn’t even notice it was opening in edge instead of chrome.

FenrirIII ,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

Everything is spyware

kratoz29 ,

Just tear off the cable cord of your PC FFS.

HopeOfTheGunblade ,
@HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social avatar

I'm just saying, I game on a Windows 10 machine, use Firefox for a browser, and have never ever had this problem.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Every once in a while after an update, it will give me the blue setup screen and try to set Edge as a default browser or get me to sign up for Office365 or some shit. I just click whatever tells it to fuck off and not install/sign me up for shit and never get bothered again until the next random update that makes the setup thing run.

But I can also see many users who are forced to use a setup they didn't choose at work getting more issues than I would ever see because their setup is weird or their IT department sucks ass, or both.

kaffiene ,

This is so unlike MS /s

VonCesaw ,

I mean, if you count "active users" of edge, virtually most people are "using" it because it runs on your PC whether you want it to or not.

PhlubbaDubba ,

I feel like they both asked for this, Chrome by making their browser a publicly available and copyable code base, and edge for using it.

JackWhite ,

Well, they have to make it publicaly copiable. They based it on web kit which is based off on KHTML/KJS which was opensource under GPL license, meaning they are legally required to license their product under GPL too, and offer the source code.

technohacker ,
@technohacker@programming.dev avatar

LGPL actually, not GPL

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