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fracture , in Take the pink pill

cw: targeted towards trans femmes :')

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Who else would such a meme be targeted to especially when this is a women's space.

fracture ,

how is this a women's space?

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

"how is this a women’s space?"

> Majority of memes in the community are transfem memes

fracture ,

the way you're trying to exclude trans men from a general trans space "because most of the memes are trans fem" is really othering and hurtful

i don't feel like that reason makes it okay to be exclusive to trans men. if anything, that strikes me as a reason to be more considerate, not less

sort of like how a typical women's space should be considerate in including trans women, since they're a minority of a marginalized group, no?

incidentally, you should see that the rules of the subreddit which forbid bigotry and encourage tagging your post with the audience it's aimed at

WalrusDragonOnABike ,

This isn't a transfem community, nor a transfem enby-excluding community, afaik. There is a transfem community on Lemmy, but it's explicitly inclusive of enbies, so still not just a women's space.

wizzwizz4 ,
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And it's connected to the whole rest of the Fediverse, which is certainly not a women-only space. Things you post here will be seen outside the context of this magazine.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Transfem and enby are mutually exclusive terms, a person can be one or the other but not both.

WalrusDragonOnABike ,

Enby is an umbrella term that can includes people who are transmasc (ie: demiboys, libramascs), transfems (ie: demigirls, librafems), multigender, agender, genderfluid, and xenogenders. Transfem just describes the direction of transition and is not just limited to binary trans women.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

That doesn't make sense, a person cannot want to be "NonBinary" and also want to be a trans woman at the same time.

wizzwizz4 ,
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Why not?

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

because nonbinary is being neither male nor female and transfem is being a woman, a binary gender. They are not the same thing.

wizzwizz4 , (edited )
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Your definitions are overly simplistic. There are bigender people who are male and female and are still non-binary.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

Male and female are mutually exclusive, people can't be both male and female, that is asinine. They must be one or the other or neither, can't be both, womanhood and manhood is mutually exclusive.

wizzwizz4 ,
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Do you have any reason to believe that, other than your intuition? Plenty of aspects of reality are unintuitive, and people, in my experience, can be even less intuitive than quantum mechanics. As non-binary identities go, bigender isn't a contested one.

Consider giving https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Bigender a brief read, and checking out the references.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

It's nonsensical, a person cannot be both a man and a woman, these things are polar opposites, like being both hot and cold at the same time it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real trans people.

18+ wizzwizz4 ,
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"It's nonsensical, someone AMAB cannot start being a woman, these things are polar opposites, like a square saying it's a circle, it is asinine to say it, this shit is honestly offensive to us real women."

Please explain how what you're saying is any different to the above. Then maybe educate yourself, or at the very least, butt out.

Your view is not even popular, so don't say you're speaking for "us real trans people".

wizzwizz4 , (edited )
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Regarding your "hot and cold" analogy: warm menthol applied to the skin feels hot and cold. In thermodynamics we have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature:

> A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature.

If you clarify what you mean by "hot" and "cold", I'm sure I can find plenty more examples where the real world doesn't match your simplistic, obstinate understanding.

CheesyCheese1 OP ,

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  • 18+ wizzwizz4 ,
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    I understand that you feel this way, but do you have a single shred of evidence for your claims? From my perspective, you are indistinguishable from a transphobic bigot – right down to the slurs.

    But I get where you're coming from. You've suffered a lot to get where you are, and then you see these other people who don't suffer the way you did and do, who are claiming those labels you fought so hard for.

    But since when is being trans about suffering?

    18+ wizzwizz4 ,
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    Hurt people hurt people. You're lashing out, saying the same thing about others that others say about you.

    You don't understand their experiences, therefore their experiences aren't real. They're invading trans spaces: they don't understand that being trans is supposed to be painful and hard, not like you (a real trans person) do.

    But s/trans/female/, and that sounds just like TERF rhetoric.

    18+ wizzwizz4 ,
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    You think it's so easy? Those people you're mocking and trying to exclude from trans spaces aren't exactly immune from such treatment in cis spaces. Attitudes like yours, though in the minority, are common enough to make many trans spaces unwelcoming, or even unsafe.

    So where should they go?

    You say they don't realise "how difficult and painful it is to really actually be trans", but that's exactly the same as saying you don't realise that about womanhood.

    End the cycle. Please.

    WalrusDragonOnABike ,

    Fem and woman aren't synonyms. How else would you describe someone who was AMAB but is librafem, isn't a woman and even further from being a man, but still has a connection to femininity?

    Lots of transfem people are women, but its sorta like a rectangle and square (all squares are rectangles, but only some rectangles are squares). Practically all trans woman are transfem, but not all transfem people are women.

    CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    A feminine gender identity is equivalent to womanhood. People who identify as feminine are also women to some extent even if they don't call themselves women, this is especially true for trans women who are in-denial of their transness (i.e. people who claim to be femboys yet want boobs and pretty faces).

    wizzwizz4 ,
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    (This is incorrect.)

    Since you say so, you must know what a gender identity is. Tell me then, what is gender? What principle makes something a gender, or not a gender?

    CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    A gender identity is male, female, nonbinary, and various combinations of male + nonbinary and female + nonbinary (demiboy demigirl etc.) a gender identity is not male + female or male + female + nonbinary (bigender and trigender is not valid gender identity) a gender identity is also not wanting to be an inanimate object, mythical creature, or non-human animals, Xenogenders are an insult to the trans community and what it means to be transgender. If you say your pronouns are catself, dollself, demonself or anything else stupid like that I will not only not use them I will make fun of you for being a sad pathetic piece of shit human who pretends to be trans because he/she finds it so hip and cool, fuck you for appropriating trans experiences.

    18+ wizzwizz4 ,
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    You've just given me examples of genders (and, for unexplained reasons, declared that some of those examples are "not valid"). I wonder if you would be so kind as to enlighten me as to the nature of gender in general?

    CheesyCheese1 OP ,

    Let me put it simply then, Gender is based on sex of the brain, some people have a brain that is male, some people have a brain that is female, and some people have brain deformities that render them neither (nonbinary). The people who claim to be Xenogenders or multiple genders are lying because you cannot have brain sex that is a dragon, doll, demon or whatever, and you cannot have brain sex that is both male and female at the same time. They are pretending to be transgender for fun and appropriating our suffering.

    18+ wizzwizz4 ,
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    Interesting: you talk about "sex of the brain" and "brain deformities". That suggests you're aware of concrete ways in which gender corresponds to structural characteristics of the encephalon: neophrenology, in other words.

    Whereas it was my understanding that every attempt to sex people using fMRI pinpointed different structures each time and perpetually failed to replicate, and that absolutely none of what you say is remotely the academic consensus.

    Why do you think this?

    WalrusDragonOnABike , in Take the pink pill

    Warning. Taking the pink pill may lead to the following side effects:
    -others suddenly irrationally upset at you
    -ewwwphoric experiences
    -jars are harder to open

    AgentOrangesicle ,
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    Yo, just run it under hot water for half a minute. The metal in the lid expands before the glass does, making it easier to open.

    -males explain things to you without provocation.

    sgibson5150 , (edited ) in ifykyk, if you don't, find it on youtube or play the game
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    I don't think I've ever cried, but I don't enjoy rhythm-based games. I think I lack the necessary skillset. Latest attempt was probably...Hi-Fi Rush? I'm not disabled or anything, just bad, though my aging hands probably haven't helped.

    Edit: Re-reading your post and realizing which community I am in has led me to conclude that your post relates to the trans experience, while my comment obviously does not. I apologize for any inconvenience.

    Kolanaki , in ifykyk, if you don't, find it on youtube or play the game
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    It didn't make me cry, but Beat Saber has made me vomit. The trippy tunnel FX while standing up in VR hella messes with my balance lol

    GammaGames , in ifykyk, if you don't, find it on youtube or play the game
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    link

    Amazing game, one of my friends in college bought it on a whim

    LadyMeow , in I really want this

    This is a beautiful idea

    clemdemort , in Wish granted
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    Lol I felt that XD

    Smorty , in Happy Trans Visibility Day

    Me and the ai generated boys

    FirstMajesticComet , in Happy Trans Visibility Day
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    I don't think I need to say this but you should not go cracking people's eggs, it's misgendering and disrespectful and also violates the Egg prime directive.
    Respect people as the gender they claim to identify as until they say otherwise.

    Kolanaki , in Nonbinary vibes for nonbinary thursday [NB]
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    "What's in your pants?!"

    Pulls out a Glock

    Draegur , in Is that me?

    "Is that me?"

    It is now, sister. Finally: it's you! <3

    xilliah , in Happy Trans Visibility Day
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    NO WAY 🐣

    FfaerieOxide , in Is that me?
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    Passing the mirror or passing in the mirror?

    xilliah ,
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    Pass me the mirror

    whodatdair ,

    Here’s my mirror pass 🎟️

    Zorsith ,
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    Mirror the pass?

    x4740N , in Would you hop on the HRT bus?
    @x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

    What's the hsl part ?

    Hue, Saturation, Lightness ?

    x4740N , in aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh [CW: Assumes Viewer is Transfem]
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    Don't forget about the cute girlfriends for transbians

    -Emma- OP ,
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    I'm over a year on HRT and still don't fully understand my own sexuality. Is it attraction to women or envy? Is it attraction to men or a need for gender affirmation? Idk. I just know that I have strong desires and ambitions. 🫠

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