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Zoldyck , to 196 in CO2 Gas Chamber Rule

Go vegan

usernamesAreTricky OP , (edited ) to 196 in CO2 Gas Chamber Rule

Repeating the post body context in the comments: Spy Cams Reveal the Grim Reality of Slaughterhouse Gas Chambers

Also before someone comes here commenting about nitrogen as if it's a perfect painless method, it's got problems too:

Hypoxia produced by N2 and Ar appears to reduce, but not eliminate, aversive responses [escape attempts and gasping] in pigs

[...]

These gases [Nitrogen and Argon] tend to cause more convulsive wing flapping in poultry than CO2 in air mixtures

https://www.avma.org/sites/default/files/2020-02/Guidelines-on-Euthanasia-2020.pdf

TotallynotJessica ,
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Asphyxiation is a uniquely terrifying way to die. People who have lost their ability to feel most fear through the destruction of their amygdala still panicked under simulated drowning.

These gas chambers are almost certainly used for the same reasons the Nazis used them on people: they're economical. The Nazis found bullets to the back of the head and mass graves to be inadequate for dealing with the sheer volume of people they wanted to murder, so they settled on the gas chambers next to furnaces because it allowed them to kill mass quantities the quickest.

There is no way of executing living animals that cannot be botched; no ethical way to kill animals bred and caged for their entire lives. The expectation of being able to have it both ways is unreasonable. No free lunches liberals.

treadful , to Memes in True work stories
@treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

Engineers are often the most territorial bastards I've met.

It's noticeably nice when working in a team of well adjusted folks that can work together.

Paradachshund , to Memes in True work stories

I'm a designer and there's some truth to this. Sometimes it's a great new partnership, but sometimes it's too many cooks in the kitchen if there's no clear vision holder.

Melobol , to Memes in Jumping up the Maslow’s hierarchy

And this is why I only buy already dying / discounted plants. Less guilt that way. :)

Midnight1938 , to Memes in True work stories

Source of the meme images?

RmDebArc_5 ,
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

The lower one is from one of the newer planet of apes movies

stephen01king ,

It seems the top one is from a Filipino movie called "My Ex and Whys".

1984 , (edited ) to Memes in True work stories
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I actually say no to hiring more devs because it takes like a year to get someone up to speed, with lots of effort and time invested from the team.

I'm not a manager, I'm one of the devs. Don't want more people because of the burden of training them.

funkless_eck ,

training how to do a job is all there is my dude. Even if you founded the company, worked on the code base daily for 15 years, things get updated, practices change, tools evolve, new security vectors emerge.

itsgroundhogdayagain , to Memes in How to get on that hi-po list.

A large bonus if the temperature is always wrong

Saganaki , to Memes in True work stories

Code monkey like Fritos….

blackluster117 ,
@blackluster117@possumpat.io avatar

Code Monkey like Tab and Mountain Dew

midnight_puker ,
@midnight_puker@sh.itjust.works avatar

Code monkey very simple man

XTL ,

With big warm fuzzy secret heart

10_0 , to 196 in Rule

Can't wait for meat being for the upper class again like in medieval times 🤡

AeonFelis , to solarpunk memes in In Women's Jeans They're 83.7% Smaller

Post title is incorrect. Women's clothes don't have pockets.

Sam_Bass , to solarpunk memes in In Women's Jeans They're 83.7% Smaller

Its a watch pocket actually. For a pocket watch. That practically nobody uses anymore. I use it for small easily lost project parts.

insufferableninja , to solarpunk memes in In Women's Jeans They're 83.7% Smaller

Come on, dude, there is no female wage gap. It's just that men choose high-salary jobs, like doctor or lawyer, and women choose low-salary jobs, like female doctor or female lawyer.

damnedfurry ,

Time to dig this back up again, I guess:


There literally is no gender "wage gap". Firstly, the "wage gap" is a misnomer for the "earnings gap" (using the correct term makes it more clear that the difference is in average overall earning, not in the pay received per hour of the same work), and assuming whatever gap there is is caused by sexism is literally the same logic as the creationist's 'god of the gaps' argument re the fossil record; with that argument, creationists say X couldn't possibly have evolved into Y, that God was involved. Then when a transitional fossil Z between X and Y is found, the creationist says that God's influence must actually be between X and Z, and Z and Y. And so on ad infinitum, creating a situation where the creationist will always find a way to convince themselves that they're correct, despite the ever-increasing amount of evidence against them.

When it comes to the earnings gap, the actual gap that exists, the cause is assumed to be sexism/misogyny in the same way God is assumed to be how different species came about. But then as time goes on, research is done, and more and more of the gap is accounted for via factors that have nothing to do with discrimination/prejudice/etc., the argument changes to 'whatever gap remains unaccounted for, that must be the part caused by sexism/misogyny!"

That portion being due to sexism/misogyny is always based on pure assumption--there is zero hard evidence that instances of sexism (no one argues there is zero of it) comprise a statistically-significant portion (no one being intellectually honest would argue it's literally zero) of the earnings gap between men and women.


For anyone curious, here's a list of factors that contribute to the gender earnings gap, from the above link:

  1. Men disproportionately gravitate towards higher paying occupations in technology and hard sciences (e.g., petroleum engineer).
  2. Men disproportionately choose higher-risk, higher paying occupations with greater safety risks for occupational injuries and fatalities (e.g., oil field worker, roofer, and logging).
  3. Men are more willing to work outdoors in uncomfortable, physically demanding work environments (construction, oil field workers, commercial fishing, logging).
  4. Men are more willing than women to choose demanding, intense jobs where you can’t check out at the end of the work day (e.g., corporate attorney, senior White House staff).
  5. Men select jobs with higher pay but with lower personal fulfillment (tax accountant).
  6. Men select jobs with higher financial and emotional risks (e.g., venture capitalist).
  7. Men are more willing than women to work the worst shifts during the worst hours.
  8. Men often choose higher paying subfields (e.g., surgery and anesthesiology). <-- the primary reason for the misconception your oft-repeated joke is based on
  9. Men are more willing to work in dirty or unpleasant environments with minimal human contact (e.g., prison guard, steel worker, truck drivers).
  10. Men work longer hours per week than women on average.
  11. Men more frequently than women invest in updating their skills with greater financial payoffs (e.g., master’s degree in computer technology vs. master’s degree in education).
  12. Men are more likely than women to have more years of continuous experience in their current occupation.
  13. Men are more likely than women to have more years of recent, uninterrupted experience with their current employer.
  14. Men work more weeks during the year than women, on average.
  15. Men are less likely than women to be absent from work (e.g., doctor’s visits, sick days, taking time off when children are sick, etc.).
  16. Men are more willing than women to tolerate longer commute times.
  17. Men are more willing to relocate, especially to undesirable locations at their company’s request.
  18. Men are more willing than women, on average, to travel extensively on the job.
  19. Men are more willing than women to take the risk of a variable income, e.g., to be paid by commission vs. a fixed salary.
  20. Men often produce more output, e.g., scholarly research articles for university professors.

Note: None of those gaps above apply universally, but reflect overall gender differences that apply in general and on average.

Illuminostro ,

Why are MRA's bigger pussies than people who have actual pussies?

damnedfurry ,

Me: corrects a common misconception
You: You're a big pussy

Okay lol, you're definitely not large mad.

Rekorse ,

They are trolling you because you didnt realize the first post was sarcastic. Y'all agree.

thechadwick ,

My favorite part of this AEI op-ed (look up the fellows of this august think tank institution if you have a minute) is that the author lists no notes, references, or citations for a single claim in the piece. Now that's how you do it! Start a Hudson Institute it Heritage Foundation and once you've got the banner to put behind a panel of prestigious sounding fellows, bam! You've got the patina of credibility! Back it with a couple hundred million in tax-cheat lobbying endowments and you've got a stew going baby!

damnedfurry , (edited )

https://64.media.tumblr.com/a40772953772eb97fe029c113830c178/tumblr_okz4dl6RAH1tcrpblo1_1280.pnj

The Hay group analyzed 8.7 million employees across 33 countries, the above being on page 8 of their methodology report (which I unfortunately don't have a current link to, since it looks like their website structure changed since I last checked it out, I was only able to find the white paper), to find the real figures behind the ‘headline’ gender pay gap that crudely takes the average of all working women’s salaries and compares it to the average of all working men’s salaries, with no context.

The rightmost column shows the pay gap that remains when you compare only men and women working in the same company, at the same level, with the same title. A 1.6% average gap that takes into account NONE of the 20 bullet points in my previous comment. That's the starting point. Even if we assumed ALL of that gap was caused by sexism, a 1.6% difference isn't exactly the Colossus of Misogyny that's been assumed to exist.

Though this is all actually an attempt to 'prove the negative'. As I mentioned before, this is a God of the Gaps argument on the part of people who see this earnings gap between the sexes and assume sexism is the one and only cause of all of it. It's on the people pushing that narrative to show evidence of that, not to just claim that any unaccounted for gap is to be assumed to be caused by sexism.

silasmariner ,

My favourite part of that list is that a bunch of reasons are implicitly gendered. E.g. 'men are more likely to have had more continuous years of employment...' - gee I sure wonder why that could be - and apparently there's just no problem there at all in their mind. 'women are more likely to work shorter hours to pick up the slack do things like raise children and make sure their habitation isn't a health hazard. Like maybe some of these bullet points aren't so much counter arguments as exactly the kind of thing we should be targeting when considering the pay gap. Why is it culturally acceptable that women should do all a disproportionate amount of household chores? And let's also note that there's also been research that suggests that wages for specialist fields have historically shifted to reflect the balance of men Vs women in the field. Why is teaching so low paid now? Why is software engineering more highly paid. Stupid list, SMH

pyre ,

i will concede to every point in your dumb list: even if everything in there was true, this would still be a systemic problem. so, yeah there is a wage gap.

damnedfurry ,

even if everything in there was true, this would still be a systemic problem

Of which no one can responsibly say anything beyond "a nonzero amount of sexism exists". Which it obviously does (and in both directions, of course--even I personally have gotten the short end of the stick more than once for being the only male in my department), there will never be literally zero bigotry, sex-related or otherwise. But there is no evidence that there is enough sexism to create an average difference between the sexes large enough to measure, when all known factors for average earnings differences are taken into account (and there are certainly still more non-sex-related factors that we don't know about and haven't accounted for yet).

This means two things:

  1. One can't intellectually honestly say that sexism is a significant barrier to professional women (in the US, at least, all the stuff I've looked into is US-centric), given that the impact of sexism is literally too small to measure.
  2. There is no "systemic"/top-down solution to the nonzero amount of sexism that is out there. The best to reasonably expect is that we identify and rectify cases of sexism (along with any other kind of unfair discrimination, of course) on the spot as they're discovered.
pyre ,

you're right, i guess i didn't consider:

  1. we're clearly genetically predisposed to certain jobs, it's probably in our DNA, just like capitalism itself
  2. jobs have set payments that come from nature itself; we don't invent jobs we just discover them.
  3. jobs that happen to be discovered by women more naturally have lower payments by sheer coincidence.
  4. there's nothing we can do about this
  5. this set of indisputable facts can be observed with empirical methods and it's also complete coincidence that this happens to favor the men who are overrepresented in government
  6. oh hey that's also just plainly what men are predisposed to do, being in power; women just don't like being in power which is why they didn't have voting rights until like last Friday or something.
Fridgeratr ,

Try reading the comment you replied to a little harder

damnedfurry ,

All it is is a joke based on the assumption that women are paid less for the same work/job as men. What do you see in it beyond that?

kaffiene ,

I guess all those highly skilled researchers around the world looking at different sectors in different countries must have just been wrong in exactly the same way, then. Boy will the feel dumb when they find out

DreadneckRoberts , to solarpunk memes in In Women's Jeans They're 83.7% Smaller
@DreadneckRoberts@slrpnk.net avatar

::chef's kiss::

humorlessrepost , to solarpunk memes in In Women's Jeans They're 83.7% Smaller

I’ve always used it for my car’s keyfob, which is the only key or fob I have.

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