Macro wave, they put a fucking cavity magnetron inside a toaster oven? Or I guess you could also say they put a ceramic heating element inside a microwave? Ok so, consolidating counter top appliances is not the worst thing, I like my pressure cooker/crook pot and all that.
But WHY DOES IT NEED TO BE SMART!? Why would I want to control it from my phone? I’m going to have to go to it to put the food in to it anyways? So why would controlling it remotely be useful? Also, please, I’m so tired of the AI branding hype cycle and the manufactured consent around it.
they put a ceramic heating element inside a microwave?
It's called a crisper. As in, to make the surface of food crisp, instead of using a crisper pan, or wasting single-use crisper sheets or bags. Pretty standard in medium range microwaves.
Add a $10 metal fan, and now it's a convection oven too!
I'm surprised they haven't added an extra $5 motor and a skewer to also have a roaster function... but maybe that would be pushing it too far?
SMART!? Why would I want to control it from my phone?
You may be thinking of "(id)IoT", not "smart". You have a "smart"-phone because it's a phone-"with extras"; similarly a "smart" microwave doesn't mean it has (id)IoT for your smartphone to use, it means the microwave comes "with extras".
Why do you want a "microwave, convection oven, with a crisper" have any "smarts" to switch from one mode to the other? Well, for example to defrost, then cook, then crisp some piece of food... without having to stay over it and switch functions manually.
Ideally, it would also come with a thermometer and humidity sensor (that's another $5 in sensors) to detect when the food has defrosted, then cooked.
Having an (id)IoT function... well, you might have a particular recipe on your phone, or on the internet, or want to check on how it's doing from the sofa. Adding a webcam to live stream an image of your food, would cost another whooping $20... but I would rather duct tape one that's reflashable with a custom firmware, so that's debatable.
BTW, all these sensors, IoT, and "smarts", are doable with an ESP and a bunch of SSRs. I know, it's like some extra $20, and you should NEVER open a microwave without a solid grounding (pun intended) in basic electronics... but it's all DIY-able. Oh, and once you have an ESP, you can also add an RGB LED strip to it for a few extra bucks, because why not.
I worry about when I'll have to replace my robot vacuum.... The need for mine to be controlled through the internet exclusively was already a big worry for me, and now they're adding cameras and microphones to them as well...
This is such a weird thing I’ve noticed on this community. There was a guy not too long ago that would make new accounts like daily so he wasn’t posting under the same username and it’s like… why?
I get you want privacy, but there’s a line where it just stops making sense, and your personal info isn’t that valuable. Anyway
I get you want privacy, but there’s a line where it just stops making sense, and your personal info isn’t that valuable. Anyway
Actually, you don't need perfect privacy. You just need good enough privacy, and here's why:
If you're a low-value target - i.e. a random internet user, that's you and me - always remember that your value is low: Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook... expend a certain amount of resources to fish for enough of your data to earn them a return on their investment. We're low-value targets, so they first and foremost go for the low hanging fruits: the people who don't know, don't care, wallow in social media without any restraint and make it particularly easy to gather data from.
All you have to do is make it hard enough and expensive enough for the corporate surveillance collective to lose money on you: create accounts full of fake data and don't post personal information - or make up fake personal information in your posts - to poison their wells. Don't post photos of you or your family. Use throwaway email addresses. Use a deGoogled phone. Don't browse without an ad blocker set on reasonably high. Use a browser with anti-fingerprinting. Don't fill out Costco membership cards. Pay with cash stuff that you don't want anybody to know about. Etc etc.
In other words, adopt a reasonable-enough privacy hygiene so that you're not part of the low hanging fruits. It doesn't have to be drastic, just good enough to make you not worth the sonsabitches' time and effort.
If you're a high-value target however, a Snowden or an Assange, that's a different proposition. But for the rest of us, private enough is good enough.
Cell phone tracking is common place. If you carry one, you're being tracked, profiled and having your data correlated with others. The question is whether you support living in a surveillance society. If you do, grab a cell phone and be happy. If not, get rid of it and use alternative communication methods. It's a simple choice. In my experience, most people choose convenience over privacy.
I do want to not use my Sim for internet but I dont know what to use. I know there are small devices you can pop Sim into but couldn't find any decent. I think it would also stop drawing your battery, does anyone got any tips for a good manufacturer?
I feel like this video is preaching to the choir. No one who is not already concerned about their digital privacy will care about this video, and if they watch it I doubt it would change their minds.
Also, I can't even imagine how many resources image-generating AIs take up, especially when it's all based around "refining prompts" over and over and over....
I think the training part is not to be neglected and might be what is at play here. Facebook has a 350k GPU cluster which is being setup to train AI models. Typical state of the art models have required training for months on end. Imagine the power consumption. Its not about on person running a small quantized model at home.
You said running an imagine generating AI on your GPU is less demanding than a video game. While possibly true, the topic of water scarcity and energy demands are not about what one person runs on one GPU, hence my response.
The person I replied to was only commenting on people how much it cost for people to "refine prompts" which isn't where the problems lie. People at home on consumer hardware can't be the ones causing issues at scale, which is what I pointed out. We weren't talking about training costs at all.
Besides, the GPU clusters models are trained on are far outnumbered by non-training datacenters, which also use water for cooling. It seems weird to bring that up as an issue while not talking about the whole cloud computing industry. I've never seen any numbers on how much these GPU clusters spend versus conventional use, If you have any I'd like to see them.
Such training can be done in places where there's plenty of water to spare. Like so many of these "we're running out of X!" Fears, basic economics will start putting the brakes on long before crashing into a wall.
I've been limiting my AI use ever more because of that, and I found out that AI isn't as necessary as they want us to believe. In fact, the downsides may be more than that small productivity boost we're gaining, in terms of rights to clear and verifiable informations and in terms of manipulative tactics and uses made possible by that.
Spreading out the internet across infrastructure nodes that can be cooled by fans in smaller data centers or even home server labs is much more efficient than monstrous, monolithic datacenters that are stealing all our H2O.
That's definitely not true, data centers are way more efficient than home servers. But yes, they use water to be more efficient.
I don't forsee it becoming "sentient" so much as "Being given a stupid amount of access and resources to figure out a problem by itself, and stupidly pursuing the maximization of that goal with zero context."
There's that darkly humorous hypothetical that an Ai tasked with maximizing making paperclips would continue to do so, using every resource it could get a hold of, and destroying any threat to further paperclip production!
So that, with data center expansion and water. Lol
oh this is happening today. the ultra-addictive social media thing is mostly through machine learning algos being tuned to do this regardless of anything else.
That's what I worry about. Right now we can ignore social media somewhat, but if Ai gets wedged into contracts with government/infrastructure and other unavoidable daily life, I imagine that's where a plausible threat could come from.
I've no doubt such things are already in the works. Ai controlled traffic lights or something, for instance. Obviously the military and law enforcement are already giddy about it, of course.
Giving a stupid machine a seemingly simple goal to pursue and the wrong set of keys could lead to disasterous consequences, I think. We also have the whole "Do Ai cars protect the driver or all human life even if it risks the driver?" Debate.
"But it's trendy, it's the future! And there's so much venture capital involved, how lucrative!" Seems to be how major decisions are made these days.
I don't see it some day "waking up" and thinking "I feel like humans are unnecessary." It's scarier than that...it will see us as just another variable to control and "maximize" us out of the picture.
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