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slazer2au , to Fediverse in FediVision 2024 is Live! Listen and Vote!

Will the Dutch entry be disqualified for realism?

DmMacniel , to Fediverse in FediVision 2024 is Live! Listen and Vote!

Damn only 3 days till the votes close.

cosmicrookie , to Fediverse in FediVision 2024 is Live! Listen and Vote!
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Interesting!
There was a Lemmyvision not too long ago
https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyvision@jlai.lu

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deadsuperhero OP Mod ,
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Oh wow, how did I miss this?!

inlandempire ,
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I will run it again don't worry! ❤️

AFC1886VCC ,

Sexy Train is a banger

Atramentous , to Technology in A Primer on Mastodon's New Board Members

Overall seems like a pretty balanced board. Al Shafei and Bezuidenhout have backgrounds aligned with the type of Mastodon I want to see. The lawyer guy dabbles in crypto law, but also did tons of pro bono work for Mastodon. Seems to me like he’s just passionate about emerging tech. Biz Stone is also an interesting inclusion. He’s obviously well connected to the VC space but has been pretty critical of Elon Twitter.

HeartyBeast ,

Yeh. I’m pretty comfortable with this broad mix.

thoralf , to Fediverse in You can now bridge Fediverse and Bluesky Accounts!
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I would prefer to let Bluesky die silently instead of throwing a life line.

makeawishkid ,

Lol, what makes you think it's dying? The MAU numbers are similar to mastodon, and a lot of the science community has shifted there (for ease of use compared to masto).

Corgana , (edited )
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I have trouble believing that last bit. My Mastodon feed is always extremely full of scientists and Mastodon has almost 3x the active users that BlueSky does.

maegul ,
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truth is that everything is scattered. And different alternative social media platforms or ecosystems ... fighting and competing looks a bit silly once you zoom out a little. Both fediverse and BlueSky are sitting around 1 million monthly active users ... which is nothing compared to the likes of twitter and threads and IG etc.

It would be physically impossible to say that "all of the scientists are actually on BlueSky/Mastodon". By any reasonable approximation, they're all on Twitter/Threads, with some experimenting with alternative social media. And those few are likely on both because they're still interested in getting their messages out there.

electricprism ,

I agree, however in the same spirit of email I would be pissed if Gmail blocked AOL or Yahoo suddenly someday "coz reasons" -- I prefer to stick to the 'federate all the things' plan -- let the baddies fail because they suck

JoYo ,
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i have no problem with the concept of more than one website.

i vote no on federate all the things.

skullgiver ,
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Bluesky is growing rapidly while ActivityPub growth is stagnating. I expect BS to grow beyond AP this year. People I used to follow on Mastodon have moved over to Bluesky, so I had to create an account there.

Personally, I like the ability to follow people who don't necessarily know how to install Linux. I'm glad techies seem to slowly move towards ActivityPub related services, but the general public doesn't seem all that interested. Plus, federation between services is the whole point of the fediverse!

CanadaPlus , to Technology in The Trouble with Forking Mastodon

Yeah, getting projects off the ground is hard work. These aren't really Mastodon specific problems, it's just another version of the whole "I have an app idea" meme that coders joke about.

tal , to Technology in The Trouble with Forking Mastodon
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In light of the announcement of Mastodon’s US-based 501c3 Non-Profit, and the reveal of that organization’s board members, there has been backlash from members of the Mastodon community. Some people are even saying that this is the last straw, it’s time for a hard fork of the project!

I feel like there's context missing. What's the objection to the board of the nonprofit?

https://wedistribute.org/2024/04/mastodon-us-nonprofit/

The announcement also establishes an interesting board of directors: Esra’a Al Shafei of Majal.org, Karien Bezuidenhout from The Shuttleworth Foundation, Amir Ghavi of Fried Frank, Felix Hlatky of SOLARYS, and former Twitter cofounder Biz Stone.

There are two links in the article to content that talks about forking, but it's from people who seem to be arguing about the dev team, not the board of a nonprofit set up to handle contributions.

fubarx , to Fediverse in The Trouble with Forking Mastodon

The article didn't really explain what was so controversial about Mastodon? Last I heard, they created a U.S. non-profit. Did I miss something?

deadsuperhero OP Mod ,
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Most of the backlash pertains to the board members appointed to the new nonprofit. One of the members is a lawyer that has defended crypto and AI companies, another is ex-Twitter angel investor Biz Stone.

Mastodon's community usually has some kind of vague beef about one thing or another when it comes to Eugen and the decisions he makes for the project, whether it's a new feature or a design change or that he didn't do something that other projects wanted to do.

darkphotonstudio , to Technology in A Crash Course Guide to Nostr

I would be making a huge mistake if I didn’t bring this up. A significant portion of the Nostr community loves Bitcoin, and many clients implement NIP-57 to hook into the Bitcoin Lightning Network.

Fuck no.

delirious_owl , to Fediverse in The Trouble with Forking Mastodon
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What did nextcloud fork?

sabreW4K3 ,
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Owncloud

deadsuperhero OP Mod ,
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Nextcloud is a fork of Owncloud. IMO, as a product Nextcloud is superior in every way.

poVoq ,
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The original project was called Owncloud and was made largely by the same people, but they split over a disagreement in management.

caos , to Fediverse in The Trouble with Forking Mastodon
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@deadsuperhero There are several forks of Mastodon that have been around for years and work well (not only ) like , , etc. for years.

https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_is_Mastodon%3F#What_are_Mastodon_forks_and_why_use_them?

They have many more functions such as editable character limit,
editable poll options, local posts, changeable favicon, markdown formatting - and if that's not enough, there is plenty of other software in the Fediverse for micro- and macroblogging

deadsuperhero OP Mod ,
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Yeah, if you read the article, Hometown and Glitch actually get mentioned. The criticism is not about making a fork to do your own thing... but, instead, about trying to compete with Mastodon directly.

Doing that kind of fork (which is what people are calling for) requires a tremendous amount of coordination, effort, and commitment that cannot be done casually.

damon ,

Those aren’t the kind of forks that this article is addressing

mozz , to Fediverse in The Trouble with Forking Mastodon
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Akkoma and Pleroma are two popular "Mastodon style" Fediverse apps, I think born out of exactly this type of complaint about Mastodon, which you could get involved with if you wanted to be involved with better software without it being a one-man show.

I think it's made needlessly difficult by how sloppy a protocol ActivityPub is, such that different Fediverse apps can't really interoperate with each other except at a pretty rudimentary level, so you kind of have to pick one of the leading ones and imitate it, in order to be a citizen in its community and not have to build your own little community from scratch. But that's a problem without a real easy solution, I think.

deadsuperhero OP Mod ,
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This is a situation that I think will get better in time. There's some really promising efforts involving Fediverse Enhancement Proposals, where multiple projects collaborate on shared ways of doing things. Some of these behaviors are getting studied and standardized by the larger SocialCG entity, as well.

There's also a lot of promising development behind a Fediverse Testing Suite. If we can develop a platform-agnostic testing system for people to build against, it will potentially become the new development standard, rather than optimizing for Mastodon and nothing else.

mozz ,
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Yeah agreed. In particular I really like that feditest exists even if I haven't done anything to check it out / learn about it for myself yet.

maegul ,
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If we can develop a platform-agnostic testing system for people to build against, it will potentially become the new development standard, rather than optimizing for Mastodon and nothing else

Well, unless interoperating exclusively/mostly with mastodon is still substantially incentivised because of its size. Hopefully mastodon comply with the testing suite’s standard, but I can see that being a slow process, and I can also see grey areas persisting.

ericjmorey , (edited ) to Technology in A Crash Course Guide to Nostr
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Nostr seems like it's set up to allow for unmitigated abuse.

This is an excellent introduction for those that want to try it out.

taladar , to Fediverse in The Trouble with Forking Mastodon

I don't really see the point in forking a project like Mastodon unless you are already deeply involved with its development. It doesn't do enough that you couldn't rewrite it better (as in in a way you understand better and with lessons from the original taken into account) in the time it would take you to fully understand all the details of the existing code base.

RobotToaster ,
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Mastodon lacks a lot of basic features, like full text search.

deadsuperhero OP Mod ,
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It actually does have that nowadays, it's just that the feature requires Elasticsearch to work, which is one extra piece of infra for admins to worry about.

taladar ,

It is about as common as using a database server for content though to use something like ES, Solr or similar software for search.

dnzm ,
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It absolutely is. Yet, as Sean said, it's also yet another bit of software to run and maintain, and ES is known to be a bit of an effort to keep going well.

Admins having only finite amounts of time and/or resources, might make the very understandable decision to leave it out.

maegul ,
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Yea agreed. It’s not the forking that matters though IMO, it’s the commitment to a true and stable alternative, whatever the best way to that is.

lps , to Fediverse in The Trouble with Forking Mastodon
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