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stevedidwhat_infosec ,

I think most anti status quo people wouldn’t be interested in the clothing industrial complex

Maybe people are just more comfortable expressing themselves in different and unique ways that don’t conform to one “outfit/style”

captainlezbian ,

I think hand repaired and hand sewn stuff could easily be it. “I made this dress before taking down the stock exchange”

Corkyskog ,

Maybe. But it's a craft that takes a lot of practice to get good at, and a lifetime to master.

psud ,

Yeah, you can't expect to be successful the first time you try to take down a stock exchange

stevedidwhat_infosec ,

I still don’t think anyone who’s in the hacktivist scene really gives a shit or at least doesn’t give a shit on whole any more than any other group does.

Let me spend several months trying to identify exploits while siting at my computer but also take the time every day to coordinate a cute outfit…

caseyweederman ,

Punk tends to lean towards modifying what you have with what tools are available, and shopping second-hand. As a bonus, the inherent aesthetic is harder for the fashion industry to co-opt.

WamGams ,

The punk aesthetic was invented by a man who owned a fashion label and had his own storefront.

synae ,
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Joke's on him, I never paid him a penny

WamGams ,

I think I once spent 99 cents on his cover of she's not there.

caseyweederman ,

Punk, like 80s punk? Safety pin piercings, jackets with the arms torn off, covered in handsewn patches, egg-white hair glue?

WamGams ,

Late 70s Punk.

sangriaferret ,

He ripped it off from a man who was one of punk's founding fathers.

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/5fd3d51b-3a40-4b8d-b77b-582d87be288f.jpeg

niktemadur ,

Give us a name to go with the face, at least.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's Richard Hell.

sangriaferret ,

Correct!

For those not in the know, he was a member of a number of New York punk bands in the 70s. Malcolm McLaren nicked his style (along with that of others) and brought it over to England to sell in his clothing store Sex.

moon ,

They do have a look, they just become trans

ThatFembyWho ,

Thigh highs and skirt-go-spinny aesthetic <3

ShaggySnacks ,

Or furries.

jlow ,
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It's literally part of hacker-ethics to not judge people by their fancy exterior:

Hackers should be judged by their acting, not bogus criteria such as degrees, age, race, or position.

https://www.ccc.de/en/hackerethics

stevedidwhat_infosec ,

Thanks for posting this!

For those who aren’t familiar - CCC is the chaos computer club, they have lots of talks and events all about tech, politics, intel, hacking/security, etc.

Great resource to socialize with

nilloc ,

I believe that’s the origin of “tits or GTFO” came from too, a cringey way of saying that they don’t care if your a girl if you say something dumb online. Though predictably it morphed into incel taunts and male chauvinist bullshit once the meaning was lost.

stevedidwhat_infosec ,

Hey, what???

Is this a bot? Lmao

JasonDJ ,

ccc.de is the Chaos Computer Club? How is that spelled in German? Computerchaosclub?

0xD ,

No, it's spelled the same.

violetraven ,
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Gradually_Adjusting ,
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I think John would be delighted tbh

bl_r ,

SiegedSec moment

Mikina ,

I do feel kind of simillarly betrayed. Watch Dogs were my forst point of reference into what hacker subcultures look like, and it has shaped a large part of my life - next month i's going to be 5 years I've worked as a Red Teamer in a cybersec company. I'm also mostly a poser, and the aesthetics simply makes it way more fun - making art that's tied into what you do is great, assuming you dont take it too seriously, of course. Not that I do it, but the way Watch Dogs portraied it, it was fun.

Is it neccessary? Of course not. Is it a shame there aren't many hackerspaces with cool street art, and hacktivists making over the top manifests ajd cool streetart around our town? A little bit.

ninpnin ,

Some dude in the fucking WSJ is complaining about how hackers look ? What the hell is this?

tigeruppercut ,
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John Waters made a lot of counterculture films back in the day-- I don't think his tone is complaining

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Waters

ninpnin ,

What is it then?

tigeruppercut ,
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I feel like he's just lamenting that the youth that are making things happen could make a statement with some distinct fashion. Style has always been important for him so I guess it's somewhat complaint adjacent, but I get the feeling it's less like "damn kids today!" and more like "it'd be better if it were this way".

skygirl ,

Tongue in cheek

ninpnin ,

Neurotypicals at it again

Katzastrophe ,

I thought thigh highs and cat ear headsets are the style of the modern hacktivist?

LinkOpensChest_wav ,
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That, or a fursuit! There's definitely a current aesthetic imo, but obviously it's a generalization that not everyone fits, as has always been the case.

frezik ,

20 years ago, it was The Matrix. 10 years ago, Guy Fawkes masks. Thigh highs and cat ears are the least cringy of the possibilities to date.

melpomenesclevage , (edited )

to be fair, while not much of a hacker since the days when you could just open windows and delete the password, most of my casual wardrobe could pass for 'cozy pyjama party matrix cosplay'.

but new images are always nice.

thallamabond ,

Check out Hirens boot CD if you want to reset windows passwords

crusty ,

Also medicat

Patches ,

Columbine ruined The Matrix look real quick.

JasonDJ ,

It only had 3 weeks.

Zehzin ,
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It's either that or a fursuit

taiyang ,

A dude in a full Fox fursuit is the face behind the string of shutdowns that slowed the nation to a halt. I can see it now, FBI dragging the poor guy out of his room, knocking over models and plushies off his desk as he struggles to get his message out to the public.

Agent641 ,

They even shot his waifu pillow

mydoomlessaccount ,

Wow, I can't believe nobody's even bothered to mention the style from the definitive hacker movie. Just absolutely gobsmacked. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like:

https://files.catbox.moe/gtkj97.jpg

Notably missing from this picture: rollerblades, fingerless gloves, neon dyed hair, tons of fishnets (which I guess you could probably stylize as fish.nets or something), puffy vest, etc.

In my day, being a hacker meant dressing like a weird raver/punk and sending people a GIF of a laughing skull, and that's how we liked it

violetraven ,
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Everything about this. Yes!

Thteven ,
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Hack the planet!

Sizzler ,

They're trashing our rights, TRASHING our rights.

JasonDJ ,

They dressed like JP from Grandmas Boy.

WeLoveCastingSpellz ,

I just go for punk

perishthethought ,
kittenzrulz123 ,

If you want to see the modern hacktivist style just look at UnixSocks

Orbituary ,
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I met Waters once at a viewing of Pecker. The dude is a gem.

Swedneck ,
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a what

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Dick show. You've never been to one?

LinkOpensChest_wav ,
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When you get together with the homies and view each other's peckers in a heterosexual way

Swedneck ,
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ah, like the business card scene from american psycho

"Look at that subtle off-white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh my God, it even has a watermark..."

LinkOpensChest_wav ,
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Its always good to have a watermark on your pecker to discourage piracy

Pretzilla ,

He was on my Southwest flight to LAX in 2001 and there was a palpable buzz among the pax.

Then ran into him while we were waiting for our rides at the white zone, which is for loading and unloading only.

I presented him with a super tacky giant gold coat button I had just found at a payphone as if it was an achievement award, and had a fun quick chat. Lovely and delightful guy.

Orbituary ,
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When I met him, we had some absurd questions during the audience participation part. My friend asked, "suburban Baltimore is such an interesting backdrop for a movie. Both mundane and interesting. As a young black artist in America, I'd like to know what you think about lowriders."

My other friend had him sign her maxipad wrapper. This friend also happens to be the nice of Patsy from Ab Fab.

lseif ,

black hoodie in a dark room, maybe even a guy fawkes mask

Theme ,

Okay, I guess I'll put the cat ears away :/

Kolanaki ,
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No you fool! That's the fashion he's looking for! Put on the fursuit and thigh high socks and shut down Google!

Theme ,

Yes Daddy, I can't aid the revolution if I'm not wearing my maid uniform

mortemtyrannis ,

FFS this comment section is mostly people misunderstanding that John is likely saying this tongue in cheek.

People need to brush up on their cinema.

Zehzin ,
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Even his face always looks like he's waiting for you to laugh at the funny thing he said

Kolanaki ,
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I think it's even funnier to think of John Waters saying this totally in earnest.

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