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MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Said the shithead who forced signing into Twitter to view content.

infrasoundxp ,

There's a tiny little white link on the bottom right side of that pane that says skip and then multiple panes after that with "yes, I'm really sure. F off Microsoft".

Still extremely easy to miss and hilarious that he did.

accideath ,

It‘s not actually there in current windows versions. It takes some sort of workaround and I think you actually need to use the cmd. It is possible though.

kilgore_trout ,
@kilgore_trout@feddit.it avatar

I think Microsoft ships slightly different versions in different markets.

kusivittula ,

last time i installed win10 on my desktop, the skip option definitely wasn't there, tried googling but couldn't find a solution so i had to create that damn account. next day my laptop that i need for school wouldn't let me log in anymore without an account. that day i joined team linux. btw i wonder if it would force that ms account crap if you had no internet at the moment?

2001herne ,

On windows 11, I believe you just can't set it up without internet. There's a couple of registry hacks you can do to bypass that though.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar
doctorcrimson ,

You actually have to make sure the device never connects to the internet in order to create a local only user account.

lazynooblet ,
@lazynooblet@lazysoci.al avatar

I think it's there if you install pro or enterprise

accideath ,

Not anymore with pro, iirc. It worked longer than home but they changed that, I think. Dunno for enterprise.

lazynooblet ,
@lazynooblet@lazysoci.al avatar

This takes a few minutes to test, so I did.

TLDR: You can do it in Win11 Pro at least, but the interface tries really hard to steer you into a Microsoft account.

Used the Windows image tool at https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11

This created me a 23H2 ISO

Created a VM in VMWare Workstation and started setup

When asked for the key, I chose "I don't have a product key"

When asked for version, I chose "Windows 11 Pro"

https://lazysoci.al/pictrs/image/bf2040e5-a86e-4fb5-944f-5394d52076b8.png

After the restart, during OOBE, it asks me how I would like to setup, I chose "work or school"

https://lazysoci.al/pictrs/image/05f4d394-583b-49fb-ac66-0f6c6ce8b966.png

When asked to sign-in to Microsoft, I chose "Sign-in options"

https://lazysoci.al/pictrs/image/ae723622-1a68-4262-b128-04858467a7b3.png

I then chose to "Domain join instead"

https://lazysoci.al/pictrs/image/08c72851-341b-4277-8c49-87f4aba28a9c.png

I'm then asked to create a new standard user

https://lazysoci.al/pictrs/image/1aff7ffd-dee1-42ff-a755-0d13725e1b6f.png

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Just use Rufus to make the USB... I mean, it's fairly simple to use it, and it asks you IF you give it a Windows ISO if you'd like to skip these things. There are other tweaks as well, like no BitLocker by default.

Poem_for_your_sprog ,

Considering he's a moron and probably insane, I'm not surprised.

jol ,

He's not the most technically savvy person...

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

The irony!

Max_P ,
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

Not since 11, even the no network trick doesn't work. With Windows 10 if you didn't give it a network it was like oh okay, I guess local account is the only choice.

Windows 11 has a screen that says it can't find any WiFi or Ethernet adapter, and that you need one and connect to the Internet. It really doesn't want you to not have a Microsoft account, you have to kill the whole setup in cmd and make the local account yourself. It's insane.

Sidyctism ,

As of recently, it doesnt even let you open cmd during setup. Found that out when setting up a win11 laptop for a colleague a couple weeks ago

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Or just use Rufus to make the USB 🤷.

julianh ,

Wow, Elon, you think it's bad to give one company full control over something? You think someone should step in and stop them? You think closed ecosystems are bad for customers? HMMM

tubaruco ,

i think we should tell him about those filthy cars from tesla...

thatpilotguy89 ,

Pot, meet kettle.

hex_m_hell ,
@hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net avatar

Why is "the most incompetent fascist alive can't use Windows" a Linux meme?

Honytawk ,

You guys kept upvoting all the "Windows vs Linux" memes.

This is a Windows instance now

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

It's nice to have an alternative... whatever that alternative might be... some of us do dual boot.

fox2263 , (edited )

Using another windows pc, make an 11 install USB by downloading Rufus USB. Then use it to download the English international windows 11 iso. After pressing start or whatever you get option to remove online account, make a local account, and remove system requirements as well as privacy questions etc.

Once installed, go to revi.cc and download the playbook and the Windows AME tool to “ameliorate” windows of all its bloat.

Sit back and enjoy a fast and local windows.

derpgon ,

I love that Rufus, just a simple bootable (not for Windows specifically) USB maker software, specifically targets a single piece of software (Win11) and offers you to install those mods. I find that kind of beautiful.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I am so bummed that it doesn't have a Linux port! None of the tools for Linux have those tweaks in them!

NateNate60 ,

You can do it using a single terminal command run during set-up. No special images or imaging software required.

However, the point is not whether it is possible, but why it is so unnecessarily difficult. I think that question is easy to answer.

slazer2au ,

You can also install windows without an internet connection.

NateNate60 ,

You can, by using the terminal trick I was referring to. If you simply try to set it up without connecting it to WiFi or Ethernet, it will not let you go past that screen until you connect to a network.

hactar42 ,

Not anymore. The last version of Windows 11 I installed on bare metal did not allow the trick when you just turn off the WiFi. I had to Shift+F10 to get to the command prompt, enter "oobe\bypassnro", then reboot before it would allow a local account.

Rooki ,
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d2cf672a-b677-42ea-8107-2b7c3c15258c.png

Or just use a easy to use linux distro and you have less headache than that.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

For those of us that need to dual boot that is.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Finally, a sane person!

nxdefiant ,

I figured out how to get windows 10 up and running without creating an account after like 10 minutes of googling. It requires actually doing things and not pretending to do them, so it might be beyond his ability.

bobs_monkey ,

This all is assuming Musk is actually setting up his own computer, which I'm gonna lean towards not likely.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

He’s probably banned from having an MS account.

geekworking ,

Too bad he wasn't making dumb comments about Linux.

I'd love to see Linus unload one of his smack down rants on Elon.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

That would be satisfying AF, but it will probably never happen. Linus just doesn't care about social media and politics.

lemmesay ,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar
0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, forgot about that 😁.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Wow, even ruptured douche balloons are getting sick of Microsoft's shit.

OozingPositron ,
@OozingPositron@feddit.cl avatar

Do it Elon, take the Linux pill.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Fuck no, I think this is the one time we need to gatekeep.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Darn it, I really wanted to troll him in posts.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

No thanks. I don't want fake ass engineer Musk doing cringy programmerhumor tweets. He's already a edge lord with video games and I really don't want to see more communities propping him up because he tweets "sudo rm -rf hahahaha I'm sudo man" or whatever his cokebinged brain tells him

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

You aren't forced. Its just extremely obfuscated and you have to enter bogus info if you don't want to use the command line.

caustictrap ,

No one complains about ios/android requiring a login.

cirdanlunae ,

But, it doesn't? I have yet to log into a Google account

xia ,

I know that the shield (android tv) does.

bobs_monkey ,

Gotta have them sweet data tracking metrics

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Android TV is different than phone

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

It does ask you to provide a Google account (on Android), but you can just skip that step. You can't use the PlayStore to download apps, but that's about it. Everything else Google works, even updates, you just browse everything as anonymous (well... more or less).

Holzkohlen ,

You can with Aurora Store which you install via F-Droid.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Install apps you mean?

tubaruco ,

aurora store lets you install stuff from the play store without an account

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh, cool, that's good to know 👍.

tyler ,

Because they don’t. Neither iOS nor Android require an account.

Pantherina ,

Android doesnt, but a "non PC Laptop" does

WeLoveCastingSpellz ,

well, android really doesn't require a login

Honytawk ,

If only Elmo had the money for an Enterprise license ...

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

What Elmo needs is KMS38.

Norgur ,

I think he's more angry that Microsoft dares to pressure their users to give their ChatGPT thingy data instead of paying him, the big Elon to give them "X: the partisan shitstorm collection, remastered edition"

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