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wilberfan ,
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Just realized I've got a wide selection: Windows, MacOS, Android, and EndevourOS, and Manjaro. (I haven't booted the Windows box in MONTHS...)

lemmyissupergay ,

Don't tell everyone. If people switch to Linux it will get shitty.

Tangent5280 ,

Why do you think so?

phoenixz ,

I've been running Linux KDE desktop only (mostly Ubuntu) since 2003, so well over 20 years, only reason to look at windows was either work, or family who again for the nth time had a forked up windows install

Tangent5280 ,

Yep. It's been getting slightly more unstable recently too.

Hiro8811 ,
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Forked? Like Atlas and Ghostspectre?

phoenixz ,

Welcome to the dark side, we have cookies (the good one, not the browser ones)

lengau ,

I think the only devices in my house that aren't running Linux are running VXWorks or some random embedded OS. Been this way for ages.

trailblazer911 ,

What all are better than Windows?

ambrosiaforest ,
@ambrosiaforest@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

haven't used windows in years. never looking back

dukk ,

You should try it. Quick and easy way to get some fresh air…

preludeofme ,

My only thing holding me back is my kids play Roblox and for the life of me I can't get it working since they blocked it last year. Tried all the troubleshooting, vinegar, juice box, etc nothing works

ambrosiaforest ,
@ambrosiaforest@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i play roblox through vinegar all the time and it works perfectly out of the box

DerpyPlayz18 , (edited )
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I use Grapejuice. It's a simple flatpak that I can install and it just works. You just need to go into its settings and choose between Vulkan, D3D11 or something else if the performance isn't good.

EDIT: just found out about Vinegar, I'll try it later. Apparently it's better than Grapejuice

EDIT 2: the game doesn't launch with it even after following the troubleshooting instructions, so if this doesn't work for you use Grapejuice

finkrat ,

I play along with my kid using Grape juice, was a bit fiddly to get cooperative but after a reboot it works consistently for me on Deb 12 through Flatpak/Flathub.

preludeofme ,

Yeah I wish it worked, I tried it on Ubuntu and Manjaro (which is my daily driver)

Hyrulian ,
@Hyrulian@lemmy.world avatar

There are three things holding me back from making the switch full time, I use a stream deck from Elgato for automating a lot of tasks, I stream VR titles from Steam, and I have an Nvidia graphics card.

NAM ,

Thank you for giving me 3 huge reasons not to switch, cause I've been a bit tempted lately.

Two2Tango ,

I switched to Pop_OS and it's honestly been great even with an Nvidia card. Haven't found a game that it won't run, only thing I'm missing is lack of gsync/HDR support

NAM ,

I can't give up my Stream Deck plugins. I don't trust that that Linux port thing supports all the plugins I use.

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

There are three things holding me back from making the switch full time, I use a stream deck from Elgato for automating a lot of tasks

Maybe this can help you out?

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2019/10/using-the-elgato-stream-deck-on-linux-just-got-a-whole-lot-easier-with-streamdeck-ui/

Hyrulian ,
@Hyrulian@lemmy.world avatar

I did take a look at that once before and it didn't quite have all the features that I use daily on my Stream Deck, but thanks for linking to it! Maybe I should take a look again since it's been a year or so.

joojmachine ,

Have you tried Boatswain for your Stream Deck?

Hyrulian ,
@Hyrulian@lemmy.world avatar

This looks really fascinating. Looks like this may have some more features that I need for my Stream Deck compared to other ones for it on Linux. Might have to hope on a Live USB and check it out. Thanks for sharing!!

lemmyissupergay ,

You can use VFIO to pass your GPU through to a Windows VM in order to play VR titles. I did this and it worked fine. I block all network access from Windows and then whitelist networks required for gaming.

bighatchester ,

I'm going to look into this myself. Been using Ubuntu for a about 6 months but also want to mess around more with VMs

chriscz ,

I dual... Just kidding, been running Linux since 2008. I'm done being old Billy's dumpster raccoon.

recarsion ,

It felt so great when I finally wiped my Windows drive back in the day. Suddenly I had an extra drive to distro hop to my heart's content without having to wipe the previous distro 👌

FrankTheHealer ,

I switched to Linux in 2018 because my lovely to use MacBook stopped getting updates despite being a perfectly capable machine. It really sank in for me, how much Apple relies on planned obsolescence etc. I switched to Elementary OS and was fascinated by how it worked. That was nearly 6 years ago and now I use Linux on fucking everything.

I have come across times when I've needed Windows but I can usually just set it up in a virtual machine temporarily. However the times when I need Windows are becoming increasingly rare, thank fuck.

It's been absolutely phenomenal in the last 6 years to see how far the Linux and open source eco system has grown. My Steam Deck (Steam OS 3), Jellyfin server (Ubuntu) and even my Starlink (OpenWRT) Internet connection are all great examples of that. And I hope it continues.

Tangent5280 ,

Is not getting updates such a big deal for MacOS?

FrankTheHealer ,

Wasn't the end of the world but I didn't like Apple not shipping new features etc, just because they wanted me to buy a new machine.

half_fry_doctor ,

Windows 11 used to consume 3.5GB of RAM and Solus Budgie 4.5 consumes only 1GB...

KuroeNekoDemon OP ,

For me Windows 11 used to consume 7GB of RAM, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma only uses 2GB

half_fry_doctor ,

Damn 7GB is alot!
Dafuq Microsoft was doing

rs137 ,

And what exactly is wrong with that?

My MacBook Pro was 128 GB of memory is so desperate to fill it up that it gives the applications insane amounts of memory. That only took around 30 GB of memory, so the Mac also loaded the entire file system to the memory which takes around 80 GB. The whole system is super fast because it doesn’t have to read the files from a slow SSD, but from a fast memory.

It’s just a matter of how you look at it. The empty memory = wasted memory.

half_fry_doctor ,

Bro, my laptop has 8GB of memory lol, and it uses 3.5GB of it just after the startup.

Tangent5280 ,

128 GB RAM? How much did the whole thing cost?

rs137 ,

I think it was around 7.5k EUR. But because I bought and sold Apple shares with this in mind I’ve paid around 500 EUR for that thing.

Suavevillain ,
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It is a fantastic feeling when you just finally say fuck it and run Linux only as your daily driver.

citrusface , (edited )

So serious question - are you supposed to dual boot window / Linux for some reason?

When I got frustrated with Windows - I wiped my hard drive and just installed Linux mint having literally never used Linux in my life. I didn't like mint so I tried pop_os (someone here recommended it, thanks again!) and I see zero reason to go back to Windows now.

What is the point of going back to Windows when I can run everything i ran before on Linux now?

My games work better and I've found so many free open source alternatives to everything - it's been really eye opening just jumping in. I'm glad I did.

Edit - I should have clarified Windows other than work, I understand Windows is the life blood of the corporate body - good points on forrnite / valorant / destiny - I don't play those so I didn't know.

saintshenanigans ,

One of the biggest things stopping me is that my partner loves to play fortnite so i play it with them a lot, is there anything to allow you to play EAC games? Iirc epic said they don't want to account for security across every Linux distro

Crozekiel ,

Basically the only road block I've seen is a lot of games using anti-cheat software just refuse to allow Linux. Some of it even has an option to allow it to run under proton and the devs don't enable that option so it's blocked. It's basically them saying they don't trust the Linux community not to cheat.

Then you get into the root-kit anti-cheat stuff like valorant uses which wants to load before the os and then control and monitor everything the os does and what hardware is connected... I've stayed away from the invasive as fuck anti-cheat games for years even before my move to Linux, so nothing lost there.

citrusface ,

The Finals uses anti-cheat software and runs flawlessly on my machine. Such a shame these other developers won't follow suit.

Telodzrum ,

Heroic Launcher makes Fall Guys work fine for me and it uses EAC. It looks like Fortnite doesn't work with Heroic's EAC implementation; however you can play it in a browser window through Xbox Game Pass (no sub required).

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

is there anything to allow you to play EAC games?

Steam has EAC available under Linux, you just install it just like it is its own game.

SuperIce ,

The developer has to specifically allow it though. Epic themselves don't let EAC for Fortnite run on Linux because they don't trust it as much as the rootkit version that only runs Windows.

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

The developer has to specifically allow it though.

True. But then that becomes a vendor problem, and not a Linux problem.

My point is that Linux went from 0% support for any game that uses EAS, to 100% support for any game that uses (and enables) EAS. There's many more games that you can now play on Linux that you could not before.

joe_cool ,

It's almost at the point where Wine can run more games than Windows. Most games from the Win98 to early WinXP era just run fine on Wine and don't even show a title screen or glitch and flicker on Win10.

Blades ,

I dual boot purely as a way to help me separate my hobbies. Windows is where I play my games. Linux is where I stay on to my work or work on my personal projects. Separating the OS's is basically just an organizational set up and it works for me.

citrusface ,

Funny, it's the opposite for me haha. Windows on work laptop. Linux on play laptop.

Telodzrum ,

I used to dual boot for some work tasks and to play games. With OnlyOffice and Office365 in a browser, I can do everything I used to need desktop Window apps for. With Wine, Proton, and Proton-GE I can play all of my games in Steam or Heroic Launcher, so I don't need Windows for games anymore.

There is still a usecase for people who need Windows for specific usecases; but for most people the only obstacle is learning curve (and don't come at me with Mint, Ubuntu, and ElemntaryOS you're lying to yourselves).

citrusface ,

There was def a learning curve - but I kinda just forced myself to do it. I'm still figuring things out - but I have solved every issue I've run into so far - so I feel good about that.

Telodzrum ,

It's quite rewarding, IME. I'm never going back.

ILikeBoobies ,

My Windows install does two things

Piracy/modding for consoles when there isn’t a Linux app available < I could probably use Wine

Figuring out tech support for other people when they refuse to use Linux

nifty ,
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If you program hardware some tools are only available on windows. Easier to just use windows in that case.

PlexSheep ,
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What hardware do you mean specifically?

woodenskewer ,
@woodenskewer@lemmy.world avatar

Rockwell Automation has entered the chat

Zink ,

Oh my, you just gave me a rapid fire slide show flashback.

But I’m in a much nicer software engineering job now. I am most certainly fucking not an automation/controls engineer!

Zeon ,

Or just use it in a virtual machine

itsJoelle ,

Maybe some sort of software that runs better on Windows when you can’t run it through a tool similar to Wine. Even for that subset of software doesn’t work after running it within a VM gets smaller too.

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

I thought you're supposed to dual boot until whatever version of windows you have EOLs and then look up the price of updating windows, say "fuck that" and just not boot windows again for a while and then eventually wipe it when you need more disk space.

Am I the only one?

Mio ,

It is hard without a transition period. Sometimes you have to do work stuff on your computer.

For me it is Visual Studio that holds me back. Maybe Microsoft Teams as well. Yes, work.

Since I am a power user it will take. Especially now Wayland is very much work in progress.
I have some problem with keyboard bindings, text expander.
Pidgin and Hexchat works but thinks they are located left top for right click on tray icon.

toddestan ,

I've never been a fan of dual booting myself. The computer just ends up spending all of its time in one OS or the other. Plus Microsoft doesn't seem to like to play nice with your bootloader.

I just started using Linux on secondary computers. Once I had gotten things down so the experience was smooth on those machines, moving the main desktop from Windows to Linux was pretty seamless.

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