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steal_your_face ,
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Now I want Mac and cheese

Lost_My_Mind ,

Well....Mac is here, but we can't find cheese.

Dave ,
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Are we talking kraft or made from scratch?

Ejh3k ,

Doesn't matter. Mac and cheese ain't anything special.

variants ,

Anything with that much cheese isn't going to be good

Sotuanduso ,
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What is with you people?

hoch ,

Right? We're surrounded by lunatics

Sotuanduso ,
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I know... Anyways, I'm looking forward to going home this weekend. Maybe I'll make myself a cold hotdog with the works when I get there, that's always a good choice.

TheBat ,
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Disagree.

Your mom is like 70% cheese and she's so good. 🥰🥰

Obi ,
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Fondue savoyarde enters the chat.

Mbourgon ,

Alton Brown’s with Gruyère Is fantastic. The funny thing is, kids don’t like it because it’s got too much flavor or something. Lol.

barsoap , (edited )

At the point of putting Gruyère in it you better be calling it Macaroni au Gratin Mornay.

Following Escoffier (as is proper and yes I know these aren't home kitchen amounts do the ratios yourself):

For the Bechamel: Steam in butter until white 300g finely diced lean veal, two small finely chopped onions, a bit of thyme, pepper, nutmeg, 25g salt, add it to a base of 650g roux and 5l milk. TBH that's too complicated for me, I put meat extract, thyme, pepper, and onions into cold milk, slowly bring it to temperature, then add cold roux and nutmeg. Also I don't pass it through a sieve do I look like a French Chef chunks are fine.

To turn that into a Mornay, add fish fonds (fish sauce works well use the good Vietnamese stuff), for 1l Bechamel melt in 50g "Swiss cheese" and 50g Parmesan, 100g Butter. Gruyere has become standard for the Swiss part of the cheese and works on its own, often people also use an egg yolk to aid emulsion. Especially useful if you have less aromatic cheeses and want to add more, it's not like you can't do this with Gouda.

Oh, and you might want to reduce the salt in the Bechamel if you add fish sauce.

If you're putting the whole thing in the oven to make a gratin (also consider throwing some veggies in, peas, carrots, nothing special the sauce is already fancy) adding the egg white is fine no harm done and extra protein, otherwise things can get complicated in actually getting it denatured properly. Without producing scrambled eggs, that is: Mix in the yolk once the sauce is cold enough to not instantly denature it, melt in the cheese, now it's even colder, add the white and mix it well, pour over stuff, then into the oven to finish up.

Mbourgon ,

Shit. Didn’t expect Escoffier to get pulled out here. I thought it was this recipe, but I just checked and there’s only cheddar. So now I feel like I ripped you off. https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/baked-macaroni-and-cheese-recipe-1939524.amp

But thanks for sharing the recipe! I’ve been looking for an excuse to do a Moreau sauce for a while. I don’t think it’s an actual “mother sauce”, but still one I haven’t made. Appreciate it!

barsoap ,

Bechamel is definitely the mother sauce here, yes. The general Mornay scheme could be called the mother of all cheese sauces, though, and after seeing Escoffier add fish I've never gone without it just harmonises so well and you can increase the total amount of umami because it's backed by more broad-spectrum subtle aroma than cheese alone.

Side note if you're cooking for vegetarians replace fish and veal / meat extract with mushrooms. Different, but hits just as good as the carnivore variant. Never managed a proper vegan version, the milk isn't the problem the problem is limited choice of different sources of umami. It's not supposed to be a yeast sauce, after all. Make Ratatouille instead never had one complain about it.

CrazyLikeGollum ,

He's right though. Macaroni and cheese is kind of mid, a solid 4/10 for cheese based dishes.

bighatchester ,

What about mac and cheese with bacon and jalapenos ?

flambonkscious ,

Hell, yeah!

CrazyLikeGollum ,

Bacon would be a slight improvement, jalapenos would be a downgrade. I'm not a huge fan of the texture or flavor of jalapenos.

agentshags ,
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Fresh or pickled

synae ,
@synae@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Username checks out, probably doesn't even know what taters is either

CrazyLikeGollum ,

…I do like my fish raw…maybe not wriggling though.

NoIWontPickAName ,

What about with rice?

CrazyLikeGollum ,

It would make it more filling and carb heavy, not much else. Rice doesn't have a strong flavor and the cheese would overwhelm it.

agentshags ,
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You might as well go with the cheesy chard and rice at that point

idiomaddict ,

The day I discovered that I could make the Mac and cheese sauce and put it all over the kale I got from my farm share, was the day I stopped trying to pretend to be healthy.

Bougie_Birdie ,
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Perfect 5/7 with rice

crmsnbleyd ,
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It is really good though guys

Hadriscus ,

you can stay

The_Tired_Horizon ,
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I find that context is everything... so it depends where they were eating it from.

meowMix2525 ,

they have a point and they shouldn't be asked to apologize for it

mr_satan ,
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We do add various cheeses to our pasta and it tastes good. It's usually just a quick and easy meal but it's nothing special.

Not sure how mac and cheese (not the box stuff) could be much different. Although, I've never had a meal that would be specifically called mac and cheese.

ShadowCatEXE ,
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I had always disabled chat in RL. Nothing good really ever came through it.

JargonWagon ,

There's too much toxicity in RL these days.

TurboHarbinger ,

It smells like feet, or used socks. Can't stand it.

CanadianCarl ,

Leave the socks or feet out of your macaroni and cheese. It will make a world of difference. Only requires macaroni, butter, flour, milk, cheese, seasonings.

TurboHarbinger ,

Bro, feet and socks spawn inside of it.

Redderthanmisty ,

Well deserved.

DAMunzy ,

The sound is the best

sverit , (edited )

Who says Macoroni?

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Who says Mocoroni?

You apparently ?

samus12345 ,
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Are you from a reality that pronounces parmesan parmeesian, by any chance?

HawlSera ,

I'm criticizng fucking mac and cheese and nobody can stop m.... Grrrhhh.. Damn it!

RuikkaaPrus ,
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Maybe it was a subtle way to say "macaroni and cheese is good anyway"

KingThrillgore ,
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I disagree

summerof69 ,

With the statement or with the ban?

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